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Actually the new femchef is Bush’s Mommy by Proxy. Jai Maharaj http://www.mantra.com/jai Om Shanti – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – the new whitehouse chef is a woman who served a veggie meal to the first international guest at the whitehouse since under her food-management started. is bush turning a veggie? looks like eyerack might have a sobering effect on him. White House appoints female chef Comerford in the kitchen Comerford impressed with a banquet for the Indian PM A Philippines-born woman has been appointed the first female head chef at the White House after a six-month search led by First Lady Laura Bush. Cristeta Comerford was for 10 years the assistant to Walter Scheib III who quit the top position in February. Her duties will include preparing all menus and meals for the First Family and their private entertaining, as well as office and state dinners. In recent years the head chef has earned about $100,000 (

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On 13-Aug-2005, howdydave Howdy! My whole point was: Can a person bow to the divine element within another person if s/he has not first recognized/discovered it within him/herself?

Yes, they can, but they are missing the best part.

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Howdy Dave, You have asked about Namaste… To me the important point is the intention not the words we use. Your HOWDY to me is much better than NAMASTE. Because it is HONEST…It does not try to make big meanings…. In other words some times even the word BLASPHEMOUS might mean a perfectly good feeling…If it was used same as DAVE has done. With compassion, Puma

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Puma, Couldn’t agree with you more Jared Lates…

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Howdy! My whole point was: Can a person bow to the divine element within another person if s/he has not first recognized/discovered it within him/herself? — howdydave This message originated from http://www.yoga-meditation.org

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My dear jared, Even salutations in this world can be a dividing instrument. As all the religions are…Therefore BLASPHEMOUS to me is perfectly allright. I was raised in Islamic notions in my early years…And now I see that there are very few people in this world,who really know GOD…. And most of them are the ones who  are called BLASPHEMOUS. Because their GOD is not a jewish god,is not  a Muslim God and is not a Christian God either! But these people really know GOD…And therefore things are in completely opposite directions. Therefore  some of them are called Ateist! That means they do not recognise any known religious GOD…Because almost all the religions except Buddhism,try to monopolise GOD! Unless we get rid of our conditioned minds , we will have a very hard time to realize this sort of matters…Just look around and see how GODLY terror is going on on the globe… They are all believers…But they are fighting by each other…I never seen any ateist fighting for a religious reason! With compassion, Puma

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Howdy Dave, You have asked about Namaste… To me the important point is the intention not the words we use. Your HOWDY to me is much better than NAMASTE. Because it is HONEST…It does not try to make big meanings…. In other words some times even the word BLASPHEMOUS might mean a perfectly good feeling…If it was used same as DAVE has done. With compassion, Puma

Howdy Puma! Exactly my point (re: intention)… Are we talking about a standard social salutation or about spiritual recognition? To use a parallel in English salutations, are we talking about: "Hello" (which is an appropriate salutation to anybody) or "He is risen!"/"He is risen indeed!" (which is usually only appropriate between Christians.) — Namaste Dave

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Then they weren’t true Christians were they? In fact the two largest religous groups Catholics and Muslims are also the groups guilty of murder and genocide throughout their history. But the Bible forewarned of both of these groups and their origin.

Yeah, Hal Lindsey told us all about it in 1970, in *The Late Great Planet Earth,* when the Soviet Union was *Gog* and we’d all be raptured off the earth before the world powers rained nuclear warheads on on one another and ecological disasters right out of *The Population Bomb* killed billions of people.  We ate it right up and expected the world to come to an end at any time.  Well, guess what, we’re still here, the Soviet Union is long gone, the Baby Boomers who were duped into believing his world-is-coming-to-an-end palaver threw all his books away, and now the Gen-Xers and their kids are falling for it, only now there’s a new Gog and a new Antichrist to point accusing fingers at. When one generation burns out on the second-coming message, there’s always a new flock to fleece every thirty years or so.  Like all these worthless Nostradamus books, there’s always a quick buck to be made in the Second Coming racket, and Brother Hal continues to rake in the shekels–

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Then they weren’t true Christians were they? In fact the two largest religous groups Catholics and Muslims are also the groups guilty of  murder and genocide throughout their history. But the Bible forewarned of both of these groups and their origin. Revelation 17:8  The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. The Judgement of God. Revelation 20:10  And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast (Catholocism) and the false prophet (Islam) are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Matthew 7:12  

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From gist of your post, I gather that you would be capable of comprehending the one true religion. Even if someone were to give you an in-depth explanation of it.

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Atheism and agnosticism, are not viable alternatives to religion either. Both mental gymnastic systems cannot explain their own mortality and reason for being.

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@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-10-reasons-islam-not-from-god.htm not :O

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http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-10-reasons-islam-not-from-god.htm guess not :O According to reason # 2 "no prophet will bring a revelation that is in conflict with previous revelation", Christianity would not be a revelation from God either, as it contradicts Judaism.

Considering the complexity in management of all stars & creatures in the Universe, do you really think god really cares about little germs like us, human beings? God is only within you. And you do not need a real estate agent (rabi, mullah, priest,…) to reserve a lot in the heaven.  Given it exists.

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http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-10-reasons-islam-not-from-god.htm

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http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-10-reasons-islam-not-from-god.htm

not :O

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http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-10-reasons-islam-not-from-god.htm not :O

According to reason # 2 "no prophet will bring a revelation that is in conflict with previous revelation", Christianity would not be a revelation from God either, as it contradicts Judaism.

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Putting their faith in Islam

Better off putting 25 cents in a slot machine.

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PRESS YOUR GOVERNMENTS TO ENACT A ZERO MUSLIM IMMIGRATION POLICY NOW

Putting their faith in Islam swissinfo, Jean-Michel Berthoud 14/3/2005 Around 30,000 women in Switzerland have converted to Islam, according to a recent report by an organisation for Muslim women. In an interview with swissinfo, Monica Nur Sammour-W

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -ibshambat2…@hotmail.com wrote: > DrEvilHypnosis wrote: >> His points are droll, and betray a second agenda to blame everything >> that has gone wrong in his life on somebody else > You’re an idiot. I don’t see my life as having been remotely bad. I > see this as part of social war, and one I’ve seen in the lives of > many. >> Shambat clearly DOES have enemies, having annoyed a more than a few >> people he’d've done better to not stir up — however, their agendas >> are reactive, to him, not part of some vast conspiracy. > These people are nothing. I’m talking about the people who created the > social climate of 80s and 90s, who most certainly knew nothing about > me & who made their decisions & beliefs they shoved down people’s > throats & magic they did based on what they believed before I existed. >> Shambat’s fighting delusional impulses of grandure and persecution. > I’m not "fighting" any such impulses. Why should I fight them? > That’s like saying that someone "has trouble adjusting" when adjusting > is the farthest thing from his mind! It’s manipulative phrasing that > makes your goal for the person the person’s goal when it’s not his > goal nor was it ever. > It’s attitudes like this that keep reinforcing what I have observed of > people like you. > Cheers, > Ilya Shambat.

I origonally ran into this post while browsing alt.psychology, I have no idea why its x-posted to ash or hypnosis, but anyhow. I just noticed something. You see? Here is another poast that has to do with manipulation. I run into them daily. Why don’t we all pool our knowledge about the subject? I created the group free.manipulation about a week ago. Most news servers don’t carry the free hierarchy, but you can always ask, and usually they will add a newsgroup if users ask them to. So if you’re interested in talking about manipulation and manipulators etc, ask your news admin to add the group free.manipulation. I was going to make it an alt group, but teh big bad know-it-all’s thought it wouldnt be popular. Manipulation not popular? People do it all the time, why not talk about it, get it out on the table? — There are three magical words that make everyone feel happy… ‘no compilation errors’.

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X-Troll wrote: > I origonally ran into this post while browsing alt.psychology, I have > no idea why its x-posted to ash or hypnosis, but anyhow.

If the Shambat posts to your group, it’s because he has checked out the group and has decided that its members are worthy of communing with his words. You are supposed to feel honored and flattered. > You see? Here is another poast that has to do with manipulation. I run > into them daily. Why don’t we all pool our knowledge about the subject?

Surely "personipulation"? Let’s be politically correct here. > I created the group free.manipulation about a week ago. Most news > servers don’t carry the free hierarchy, but you can always ask, and > usually they will add a newsgroup if users ask them to. So if you’re > interested in talking about manipulation and manipulators etc, ask your > news admin to add the group free.manipulation. > I was going to make it an alt group, but teh big bad know-it-all’s > thought it wouldnt be popular. Manipulation not popular? People do it > all the time, why not talk about it, get it out on the table?

Then I started… well, eating cheese a bit… and then, um, some of the guys… started – squeaking…

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DrEvilHypnosis wrote: > His points are droll, and betray a second agenda to blame everything > that has gone wrong in his life on somebody else

You’re an idiot. I don’t see my life as having been remotely bad. I see this as part of social war, and one I’ve seen in the lives of many. > Shambat clearly DOES have enemies, having annoyed a more than a few > people he’d've done better to not stir up — however, their agendas are > reactive, to him, not part of some vast conspiracy.

These people are nothing. I’m talking about the people who created the social climate of 80s and 90s, who most certainly knew nothing about me & who made their decisions & beliefs they shoved down people’s throats & magic they did based on what they believed before I existed. > Shambat’s fighting delusional impulses of grandure and persecution.

I’m not "fighting" any such impulses. Why should I fight them? That’s like saying that someone "has trouble adjusting" when adjusting is the farthest thing from his mind! It’s manipulative phrasing that makes your goal for the person the person’s goal when it’s not his goal nor was it ever. It’s attitudes like this that keep reinforcing what I have observed of people like you. Cheers, Ilya Shambat.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -OB wrote: > What is this self-esteem anyway when it’s at home? Personally, I like > myself, or at least get along pretty well with myself, find myself > agreeable company, etc, but I don’t think I’ve ever esteemed myself. > "Esteem" would suggest a degree of servile regard which no mere self > really deserves (does it?)… not to mention that the concept as used > in pop psychology appears to be suspiciously vulnerable to Occam’s > razor, i.e. if you get rid of it, nothing has changed, nothing is short > of an explanation, there are no awkward behavioural unknowns in any > equation. Thirdly, where is the scientific consensus on how to measure > it? Whenever amateur psychs want to test "self-esteem", they fumble for > a "questionnaire", which of course is a scientifically inadmissable way > to measure anything, other than maybe the gullibility of Internet > surfers and Cosmo readers. "Self-esteem"? As far as I can see, it’s a > waste of time even talking about it, except to point out that it’s a > waste of time even talking about it (except, &c). > Where I do intersect briefly with young Ilyita here is in finding the > word "needy" (as in, needs more self-esteem, as in needs the > best-selling self-help snake oil salesman’s latest magnum opus, > complete with "witty" title) at least mildly irritating. I wish women > who call certain men "needy" would cut the crap and just say what they > think, whether it be "needs a shave", "needs a better job", "needs > $5,000 of dental work", "needs to look more like Justin Timberlake" or > whatever, which would at least clarify whose need is meant, rather than > pretending that looking as if you might be interested in a shag, or > manifesting a desire to set up residence with a live-in housemaid in > French costume, was some kind of disqualifying factor per se, or was > symptomatic of anything other than a fairly bog-standard combination of > lubricity and Y chromosomes, with a piquant dash of indolence. I can > even remember agonising over how to square the circle of being an > eligible male – you have to want (sine qua non), to pretend not to > want, and at the same time be "honest about your feelings". Huh? > The solution: stop reading people who have old copies of Cosmo in their > downstairs toilet. It’s that simple. > OB > I must stop this agreeing with Ilya. I wouldn’t want it to develop into > a habit.

First let it become a habit. Then let it become your destiny. Ha ha ha

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What is this self-esteem anyway when it’s at home? Personally, I like myself, or at least get along pretty well with myself, find myself agreeable company, etc, but I don’t think I’ve ever esteemed myself. "Esteem" would suggest a degree of servile regard which no mere self really deserves (does it?)… not to mention that the concept as used in pop psychology appears to be suspiciously vulnerable to Occam’s razor, i.e. if you get rid of it, nothing has changed, nothing is short of an explanation, there are no awkward behavioural unknowns in any equation. Thirdly, where is the scientific consensus on how to measure it? Whenever amateur psychs want to test "self-esteem", they fumble for a "questionnaire", which of course is a scientifically inadmissable way to measure anything, other than maybe the gullibility of Internet surfers and Cosmo readers. "Self-esteem"? As far as I can see, it’s a waste of time even talking about it, except to point out that it’s a waste of time even talking about it (except, &c). Where I do intersect briefly with young Ilyita here is in finding the word "needy" (as in, needs more self-esteem, as in needs the best-selling self-help snake oil salesman’s latest magnum opus, complete with "witty" title) at least mildly irritating. I wish women who call certain men "needy" would cut the crap and just say what they think, whether it be "needs a shave", "needs a better job", "needs $5,000 of dental work", "needs to look more like Justin Timberlake" or whatever, which would at least clarify whose need is meant, rather than pretending that looking as if you might be interested in a shag, or manifesting a desire to set up residence with a live-in housemaid in French costume, was some kind of disqualifying factor per se, or was symptomatic of anything other than a fairly bog-standard combination of lubricity and Y chromosomes, with a piquant dash of indolence. I can even remember agonising over how to square the circle of being an eligible male – you have to want (sine qua non), to pretend not to want, and at the same time be "honest about your feelings". Huh? The solution: stop reading people who have old copies of Cosmo in their downstairs toilet. It’s that simple. OB I must stop this agreeing with Ilya. I wouldn’t want it to develop into a habit. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Ilya the Bat wrote: > One of the most evil ideas to have come out of psychology has been that > one needs to have good self-esteem in order to have relationships. As > someone who has scored medium on self-esteem test, I am quite qualified > to address this malignancy, without standing to be accused as either > having a low self-esteem or a high one. > The same person can be in a good place or in a bad place depending on > time, situation, social climate, decisions, etc. I’ve been up & down > (as has been my self-esteem) and so have most of the people I know. If > anything, if my experience is to be any guide, it’s when you’re down > that you most need to feel loved. > What is self-esteem? It is how a person feels about himself or herself. > And that of course can be a function of a million variables. The same > people who did well in 1960s did terribly in 1980s. The same character > that does well in one time does badly in another. And the same of > course is true among different geographical locations; professions; > belief structures; and everything else. > Now when I come out and tell the truth on this subject, I get > confronted with grating hypocrisy and malice. If you’re a man, in a bad > place, who badly needs love, then you are needy & need to pull yourself > up by the bootstraps. If you’re a man going with a woman who is in a > bad place, then you are a predator. > It is to be said that if you are a woman going with a man who is in a > bad place – or if you are a woman in a bad place going with a man – you > do not encounter this idiocy, but rather "concern" and "protection" > when of course the above had been utterly missing when the woman > actually needed it. > It is to be said likewise that the above takes place under the pretense > of feminism and its belief in equality between men and women, while in > fact containing some of the most patronizing, most chauvenistic, most > intellectually insulting attitudes that have been expressed in recent > society – a pretense and a belief that can only lead to "protection of > women for their own good" and the ensuing deprivation of them of all > meaningful rights and liberties. > So if you seek for love when you most need it – or seek to offer love > to someone who needs it likewise – you come under attack. > I am of the belief that this meme was created by the predatory > psychologists and distributed through the culture, in order that > millions of dollars pour into the pockets of those who feed on human > misery & prevent people from living for years upon years that they are > under their "care." > Ilya Shambat.

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In article <1121925470.390089.270…@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, DrEvilHypno…@gmail.com says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Your Name Here=Harvey wrote: >> In article <1121915619.001096.311…@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, >> DrEvilHypno…@gmail.com says… >> >Your Name Here=Harvey wrote: >> >> In article <1121910733.891640.229…@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, >> >> ibshambat2…@hotmail.com says… >> >> >Your Name Here=Harvey wrote: >> >> >> How do you know something is truthful and correct? >> >> >Because it resonates with that inside which is truthful and correct. >> >> No doubt a suicide bomber feels that way as he/she pushes the >> >> donate button and all hell breaks loose. >> >No, no, no!  There’s NO doubt at all! >> >That’s EXACTLY the way a sucide bomber feels! >> >It’s also the exact same way that Rumsfield felt, when he OK’ed the >> >tortures in Iraq and Guantanimo. >> >Congratulations, Shambat! >> >You’ve joined their creed and kith.  Excited about that? >> >Birds of a feather share philosophies together, eh, what? >> >> There must be laws that everyone can agree to, and it does resonate >> >> in each one of us, no matter how diverse our belief systems may be… >> >> Harvey >> >Yeah … like the Geneva Convention. >> >Such laws already exist. >> >It’s only a matter of enforcing them. >> whoops, bad typo on my part – detonate button, not donate – >> strange how my mind overlooks such an obvious error. >> With ‘laws’ I was thinking of — laws of conduct and of nicety, >> not silly laws of war. War simply means there are no rules. >> When you are killing people and destroying peoples’ lives – is there >> any convention that is observable under those conditions? >If there isn’t, then we truely are NOT any better than the Nazis … >and, indeed, we never were.  However, you are correct.  The full >achievement of Law is the end of all War.  If mankind cannot rise above >his instincts to war, then he has never been anything more than a >clever animal. >The Great Beast, indeed! >> To have an atom bomb and then say – oh, we’re not going to use it on you, >> we just going to threaten you with it! Is the silliest kind of >> argument. >> And – Welcome to the atomic bomb club, you know not to use it, don’t you??? >" An interesting game, Dr. Falcon. >It appears the only way to win is not to play. " >  – War Games >Well said.  Never better. >> And to use one – will simply show how silly humankind is. >> Totally stupid. Stupidier still, to have working bombs ready to go off, >> at a moment’s notice, just so to destroy them (the enemy) too…. >A political policy called "Mutually Assured Destruction" … notice the >acronym?  " M.A.D. "?  Mad, as in "insane." >Unquestionably so. >> Which goes to show how stupid this world really is. >> That at the highest level, mankind is insanely stupid. >> Harvey >I look at history, and see that throughout all human civilization, >slavery was not only permitted, but was thought to be vital to its >support.  Not even Jesus had the COURAGE to stand up and say "slavery >is wrong."  But 2,000 years later, men of bravery and wise in spirit, >moved to eradicate this evil.  Slavery is not gone, but now it crawls >in the dark and lies about its presence, for not even the most >backwards government DARES to admit that filthy breed crawls in its >bed. >If we came this close to defeating slavery … war can be next. >If we have the courage. >We live on the cusp of a great decision:  with mankind’s next few >steps, we shall either climb forever onward through the heavens night, >to the eternal stars, or plunge through hell of our own design, into >extinction.  Just another failed lifeform, like the dodo. >Let’s look to the Angels within us to bridle the Beast we know so well. >"Know ye not that we shall judge angels? >how much more things that pertain to this life?" >  – I Corinthians 6:3 >"The most disadvantageous peace is better than the most just war." >  – Desiderius Erasmus >"There was never a just war or a bad peace." >  –  Benjamin Franklin

I don’t know what ’slavery’ you are referring to? If it’s the master and servant slavery – that is supposedly long gone, only to be replaced by slavery to established ‘norms’ in life – slave to a job, so as to provide income, so as to purchase the stuff you need to live, all to be slaves to a so-called free society – which is all a fascade. I personally think the key issue is always ‘truth’ – the real truth. And that ‘it’ has been kept from us. Take for instance the Jesus story, that christianity pushes onto us. I don’t think it is 100% truthful and accurate. Christianity changed the story to suit it’s own ends. Namely resurrection was added, which did not happen. Jesus was a prophet and not a saviour. The teachings of Jesus were not encouraged at all. A new version was paraded before the public, which would enslave christians to the christian church. Another truth is the UFO story – it has great reprocussions upon us, and will enable mankind to grow up. All truths will do that – free our minds towards a greater perception of the reality around us. Another truth is the understanding about death and dying. That it is a natural process  and not to be feared, because it is inevitable, whether it is sooner or later. Christianity, Judaism and Islam don’t give us a good understanding about death and dying – they are not accurate nor truthful about it. Harvey

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Your Name Here=Harvey wrote: > In article <1121915619.001096.311…@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, > DrEvilHypno…@gmail.com says… > >Your Name Here=Harvey wrote: > >> In article <1121910733.891640.229…@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, > >> ibshambat2…@hotmail.com says… > >> >Your Name Here=Harvey wrote: > >> >> How do you know something is truthful and correct? > >> >Because it resonates with that inside which is truthful and correct. > >> No doubt a suicide bomber feels that way as he/she pushes the > >> donate button and all hell breaks loose. > >No, no, no!  There’s NO doubt at all! > >That’s EXACTLY the way a sucide bomber feels! > >It’s also the exact same way that Rumsfield felt, when he OK’ed the > >tortures in Iraq and Guantanimo. > >Congratulations, Shambat! > >You’ve joined their creed and kith.  Excited about that? > >Birds of a feather share philosophies together, eh, what? > >> There must be laws that everyone can agree to, and it does resonate > >> in each one of us, no matter how diverse our belief systems may be… > >> Harvey > >Yeah … like the Geneva Convention. > >Such laws already exist. > >It’s only a matter of enforcing them. > whoops, bad typo on my part – detonate button, not donate – > strange how my mind overlooks such an obvious error. > With ‘laws’ I was thinking of — laws of conduct and of nicety, > not silly laws of war. War simply means there are no rules. > When you are killing people and destroying peoples’ lives – is there > any convention that is observable under those conditions?

If there isn’t, then we truely are NOT any better than the Nazis … and, indeed, we never were.  However, you are correct.  The full achievement of Law is the end of all War.  If mankind cannot rise above his instincts to war, then he has never been anything more than a clever animal. The Great Beast, indeed! > To have an atom bomb and then say – oh, we’re not going to use it on you, > we just going to threaten you with it! Is the silliest kind of > argument. > And – Welcome to the atomic bomb club, you know not to use it, don’t you???

" An interesting game, Dr. Falcon. It appears the only way to win is not to play. "   — War Games Well said.  Never better. > And to use one – will simply show how silly humankind is. > Totally stupid. Stupidier still, to have working bombs ready to go off, > at a moment’s notice, just so to destroy them (the enemy) too….

A political policy called "Mutually Assured Destruction" … notice the acronym?  " M.A.D. "?  Mad, as in "insane." Unquestionably so. > Which goes to show how stupid this world really is. > That at the highest level, mankind is insanely stupid. > Harvey

I look at history, and see that throughout all human civilization, slavery was not only permitted, but was thought to be vital to its support.  Not even Jesus had the COURAGE to stand up and say "slavery is wrong."  But 2,000 years later, men of bravery and wise in spirit, moved to eradicate this evil.  Slavery is not gone, but now it crawls in the dark and lies about its presence, for not even the most backwards government DARES to admit that filthy breed crawls in its bed. If we came this close to defeating slavery … war can be next. If we have the courage. We live on the cusp of a great decision:  with mankind’s next few steps, we shall either climb forever onward through the heavens night, to the eternal stars, or plunge through hell of our own design, into extinction.  Just another failed lifeform, like the dodo. Let’s look to the Angels within us to bridle the Beast we know so well. "Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?"   — I Corinthians 6:3 "The most disadvantageous peace is better than the most just war."   — Desiderius Erasmus "There was never a just war or a bad peace."   —  Benjamin Franklin

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In article <1121910733.891640.229…@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, ibshambat2…@hotmail.com says… >Your Name Here=Harvey wrote: >> How do you know something is truthful and correct? >Because it resonates with that inside which is truthful and correct.

No doubt a suicide bomber feels that way as he/she pushes the donate button and all hell breaks loose. There must be laws that everyone can agree to, and it does resonate in each one of us, no matter how diverse our belief systems may be… Harvey

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -X-Troll wrote: > "Your Name Here=Harvey" <k…@ing.notin.aus> wrote in message > news:dbhpc0$asv$4@lust.ihug.co.nz… > [snip] > > There are a lot of things that are fed to the public, that are unfair > and > > downright ‘lies’ – and we have to put up with it. > > But living with such a mess of illogic and confusion can make life > and living > > so much harder here when people cannot tell right from wrong and are > > purposefully confused. > > How do you know something is truthful and correct? > > Harvey > Quite correct, Harvey. It seems the origonator of this thread is > confused a little, but also right on a few points. At least he/she is > aware of bullship going on. Yes lies are shoveled into us daily, thats > why people get confused and debate to no end about what is really > happening, and why. In a healthy society, we wouldnt need to debate > about what is really happening, because we would KNOW what the fluck > was going on. But there is too much damn noise being thrown at us from > all directions. > Anyways, sorry, but self-esteem is important in all things in life, not > limited to or excluded from relationships. By self-esteem I am > referring to a healthy positive attitude regarding yourself, in all the > ways that can manifest. If you don’t believe in yourself, or dislike > yourself, there is a problem which will cause other problems.

However, his point was not that. His point was that there is some kind of evil conspiracy among psychologists to covertly attack the self-esteem of otherwise healthy people, in order to create a false need, and support their buisnesses. Certainly, there are bad shrinks, just as there are bad cops, bad presidents and bad poets.  The Sun also comes up in the East, and the Tides come in and out with the Moon.  Whaddya gonna do about it? His points are droll, and betray a second agenda to blame everything that has gone wrong in his life on somebody else, instead of accepting either a valid medical condition disabling him, or a bad attitude leading to stupid decisions in life, leading to the same outcome, in effect. Shambat clearly DOES have enemies, having annoyed a more than a few people he’d've done better to not stir up — however, their agendas are reactive, to him, not part of some vast conspiracy. Shambat’s fighting delusional impulses of grandure and persecution. This is fairly common among people who simply CANNOT understand or accept the true nature of their problems.  I wish him the best of luck in his struggles, but if they include paranoia and "the world owes shambat a living" attitudes, then his failure is as certain (and as "inexcusable") as Gordon Roy "Internet Legend" Parker.

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Your Name Here=Harvey wrote: > In article <1121910733.891640.229…@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, > ibshambat2…@hotmail.com says… > >Your Name Here=Harvey wrote: > >> How do you know something is truthful and correct? > >Because it resonates with that inside which is truthful and correct. > No doubt a suicide bomber feels that way as he/she pushes the > donate button and all hell breaks loose.

No, no, no!  There’s NO doubt at all! That’s EXACTLY the way a sucide bomber feels! It’s also the exact same way that Rumsfield felt, when he OK’ed the tortures in Iraq and Guantanimo. Congratulations, Shambat! You’ve joined their creed and kith.  Excited about that? Birds of a feather share philosophies together, eh, what? > There must be laws that everyone can agree to, and it does resonate > in each one of us, no matter how diverse our belief systems may be… > Harvey

Yeah … like the Geneva Convention. Such laws already exist.   It’s only a matter of enforcing them.

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In article <1121915619.001096.311…@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, DrEvilHypno…@gmail.com says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Your Name Here=Harvey wrote: >> In article <1121910733.891640.229…@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, >> ibshambat2…@hotmail.com says… >> >Your Name Here=Harvey wrote: >> >> How do you know something is truthful and correct? >> >Because it resonates with that inside which is truthful and correct. >> No doubt a suicide bomber feels that way as he/she pushes the >> donate button and all hell breaks loose. >No, no, no!  There’s NO doubt at all! >That’s EXACTLY the way a sucide bomber feels! >It’s also the exact same way that Rumsfield felt, when he OK’ed the >tortures in Iraq and Guantanimo. >Congratulations, Shambat! >You’ve joined their creed and kith.  Excited about that? >Birds of a feather share philosophies together, eh, what? >> There must be laws that everyone can agree to, and it does resonate >> in each one of us, no matter how diverse our belief systems may be… >> Harvey >Yeah … like the Geneva Convention. >Such laws already exist.   >It’s only a matter of enforcing them.

whoops, bad typo on my part – detonate button, not donate – strange how my mind overlooks such an obvious error. With ‘laws’ I was thinking of — laws of conduct and of nicety, not silly laws of war. War simply means there are no rules. When you are killing people and destroying peoples’ lives – is there any convention that is observable under those conditions? To have an atom bomb and then say – oh, we’re not going to use it on you, we just going to threaten you with it! Is the silliest kind of argument. And – Welcome to the atomic bomb club, you know not to use it, don’t you??? And to use one – will simply show how silly humankind is. Totally stupid. Stupidier still, to have working bombs ready to go off, at a moment’s notice, just so to destroy them (the enemy) too…. Which goes to show how stupid this world really is. That at the highest level, mankind is insanely stupid. Harvey

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Your Name Here=Harvey wrote: > How do you know something is truthful and correct?

Because it resonates with that inside which is truthful and correct.

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"Your Name Here=Harvey" <k…@ing.notin.aus> wrote in message news:dbhpc0$asv$4@lust.ihug.co.nz… [snip] > There are a lot of things that are fed to the public, that are unfair and > downright ‘lies’ – and we have to put up with it. > But living with such a mess of illogic and confusion can make life and living > so much harder here when people cannot tell right from wrong and are > purposefully confused. > How do you know something is truthful and correct? > Harvey

Quite correct, Harvey. It seems the origonator of this thread is confused a little, but also right on a few points. At least he/she is aware of bullship going on. Yes lies are shoveled into us daily, thats why people get confused and debate to no end about what is really happening, and why. In a healthy society, we wouldnt need to debate about what is really happening, because we would KNOW what the fluck was going on. But there is too much damn noise being thrown at us from all directions. Anyways, sorry, but self-esteem is important in all things in life, not limited to or excluded from relationships. By self-esteem I am referring to a healthy positive attitude regarding yourself, in all the ways that can manifest. If you don’t believe in yourself, or dislike yourself, there is a problem which will cause other problems.

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In article <dbilm3$gs…@theodyn.ncf.ca>, bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Your Name Here=Harvey (k…@ing.notin.aus) writes: >> In article <1121630883.192710.69…@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, >> ibshambat2…@hotmail.com says… >>>One of the most evil ideas to have come out of psychology has been that >>>one needs to have good self-esteem in order to have relationships. As >>>someone who has scored medium on self-esteem test, I am quite qualified >>>to address this malignancy, without standing to be accused as either >>>having a low self-esteem or a high one. >>>The same person can be in a good place or in a bad place depending on >>>time, situation, social climate, decisions, etc. I’ve been up & down >>>(as has been my self-esteem) and so have most of the people I know. If >>>anything, if my experience is to be any guide, it’s when you’re down >>>that you most need to feel loved. >>>What is self-esteem? It is how a person feels about himself or herself. >>>And that of course can be a function of a million variables. The same >>>people who did well in 1960s did terribly in 1980s. The same character >>>that does well in one time does badly in another. And the same of >>>course is true among different geographical locations; professions; >>>belief structures; and everything else. >>>Now when I come out and tell the truth on this subject, I get >>>confronted with grating hypocrisy and malice. If you’re a man, in a bad >>>place, who badly needs love, then you are needy & need to pull yourself >>>up by the bootstraps. If you’re a man going with a woman who is in a >>>bad place, then you are a predator. >>>It is to be said that if you are a woman going with a man who is in a >>>bad place – or if you are a woman in a bad place going with a man – you >>>do not encounter this idiocy, but rather "concern" and "protection" >>>when of course the above had been utterly missing when the woman >>>actually needed it. >>>It is to be said likewise that the above takes place under the pretense >>>of feminism and its belief in equality between men and women, while in >>>fact containing some of the most patronizing, most chauvenistic, most >>>intellectually insulting attitudes that have been expressed in recent >>>society – a pretense and a belief that can only lead to "protection of >>>women for their own good" and the ensuing deprivation of them of all >>>meaningful rights and liberties. >>>So if you seek for love when you most need it – or seek to offer love >>>to someone who needs it likewise – you come under attack. >>>I am of the belief that this meme was created by the predatory >>>psychologists and distributed through the culture, in order that >>>millions of dollars pour into the pockets of those who feed on human >>>misery & prevent people from living for years upon years that they are >>>under their "care." >>>Ilya Shambat. >> There are a lot of things that are fed to the public, that are unfair and >> downright ‘lies’ – and we have to put up with it. >> But living with such a mess of illogic and confusion can make life and living >> so much harder here when people cannot tell right from wrong and are >> purposefully confused. >> How do you know something is truthful and correct? >> Harvey >Beware if the paranormal writers you read ask this question and answer it >for you, by that preparing you to take all they say as thruthful and >correct, for giving their own definition of trtfhful and correct before >hand, and the reader gobbling it without answering the question him/herself. >Id not be surprised that you’d answer this paraphrasing what you read and >gobbled without reflection nor analysis, swallowing what another one does >for money for the truth cause they write "nobling" their deeds to better >polish their gold bricks. >That is a truth, and a well known and documented one. >It might be of benefit to you to read books specialized on >sectarian/manipulation thinking/techniques, so as to be more enlighted when >you read on the paranormal, and so as to spot the manipulative >dishonest techniques at a glance and >from there, spot the lie(s) in the next lines that some unfortunate readers >are manipulated into believing is the truth. >There are tons of unexplained things in this world. >Charlatans are not one of them;-)

I assure you that I constantly weight up matters all the time, in everything. I do not like to have just one source of information, but others that colloborate. There is one truth – made up of fundamental truths. The fundamental truths support and verify each other. Sadly these fundamental truths are usually ’secrets’ kept from the public. ie. the great mysteries, so to speak. Death – there is no death, the spirit lives on, irrespective of what belief system you hold. UFOs – they exist, they’re real. But there are hoaxes, misidentifications and purposeful hoaxes (eg. designed to give aliens a bad name). Of course, they are of all kinds – good, bad and indifferent as to intent. ie. ETs exist, ie. aliens, ie. angels. God does not exist – the origin of God and gods, lies with ETs/aliens/angels. Earth history – our own history is kept from us, purposefully. Our history would read like some Star Wars saga, sound like some combination of fantasy and science fiction. Truly. Anything in this world is possible, but we are all conditioned to think within a box of ‘conventional reality’ in which only established ‘truths’ and information is censored for us. This is so to control the public – witness our dependence on fossile fuels – surely the brilliant engineering and scientific minds on this earth can find viable and practical alternative energy solutions for us, but there is the controlling power of political power over all that… And politics stinks! Harvey

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Your Name Here=Harvey (k…@ing.notin.aus) writes: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In article <1121630883.192710.69…@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, > ibshambat2…@hotmail.com says… >>One of the most evil ideas to have come out of psychology has been that >>one needs to have good self-esteem in order to have relationships. As >>someone who has scored medium on self-esteem test, I am quite qualified >>to address this malignancy, without standing to be accused as either >>having a low self-esteem or a high one. >>The same person can be in a good place or in a bad place depending on >>time, situation, social climate, decisions, etc. I’ve been up & down >>(as has been my self-esteem) and so have most of the people I know. If >>anything, if my experience is to be any guide, it’s when you’re down >>that you most need to feel loved. >>What is self-esteem? It is how a person feels about himself or herself. >>And that of course can be a function of a million variables. The same >>people who did well in 1960s did terribly in 1980s. The same character >>that does well in one time does badly in another. And the same of >>course is true among different geographical locations; professions; >>belief structures; and everything else. >>Now when I come out and tell the truth on this subject, I get >>confronted with grating hypocrisy and malice. If you’re a man, in a bad >>place, who badly needs love, then you are needy & need to pull yourself >>up by the bootstraps. If you’re a man going with a woman who is in a >>bad place, then you are a predator. >>It is to be said that if you are a woman going with a man who is in a >>bad place – or if you are a woman in a bad place going with a man – you >>do not encounter this idiocy, but rather "concern" and "protection" >>when of course the above had been utterly missing when the woman >>actually needed it. >>It is to be said likewise that the above takes place under the pretense >>of feminism and its belief in equality between men and women, while in >>fact containing some of the most patronizing, most chauvenistic, most >>intellectually insulting attitudes that have been expressed in recent >>society – a pretense and a belief that can only lead to "protection of >>women for their own good" and the ensuing deprivation of them of all >>meaningful rights and liberties. >>So if you seek for love when you most need it – or seek to offer love >>to someone who needs it likewise – you come under attack. >>I am of the belief that this meme was created by the predatory >>psychologists and distributed through the culture, in order that >>millions of dollars pour into the pockets of those who feed on human >>misery & prevent people from living for years upon years that they are >>under their "care." >>Ilya Shambat. > There are a lot of things that are fed to the public, that are unfair and > downright ‘lies’ – and we have to put up with it. > But living with such a mess of illogic and confusion can make life and living > so much harder here when people cannot tell right from wrong and are > purposefully confused. > How do you know something is truthful and correct? > Harvey

Beware if the paranormal writers you read ask this question and answer it for you, by that preparing you to take all they say as thruthful and correct, for giving their own definition of trtfhful and correct before hand, and the reader gobbling it without answering the question him/herself. Id not be surprised that you’d answer this paraphrasing what you read and gobbled without reflection nor analysis, swallowing what another one does for money for the truth cause they write "nobling" their deeds to better polish their gold bricks. That is a truth, and a well known and documented one. It might be of benefit to you to read books specialized on sectarian/manipulation thinking/techniques, so as to be more enlighted when you read on the paranormal, and so as to spot the manipulative dishonest techniques at a glance and from there, spot the lie(s) in the next lines that some unfortunate readers are manipulated into believing is the truth. There are tons of unexplained things in this world. Charlatans are not one of them;-) —

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On 17 Jul 2005 13:08:03 -0700, "Ilya the Bat" <ibshambat2…@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Lately your lack of self-esteem is just good sense."

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arethusa wrote: > On 17 Jul 2005 13:08:03 -0700, "Ilya the Bat" > <ibshambat2…@hotmail.com> wrote: > "Lately your lack of self-esteem is just good sense."

Whose lack? Sense according to whom?

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Iilya May I ask a few questions? First of all what does any of this have to do with hypnosis? And second of all it seems as if you believe that all mental illness is the fault of outside forces that we cannot control. What do you say to a person like me, who has a mental health condition that is due to a serious chemical imbalance.  Who do you blame in this case? my mother for giving birth to me while smoking? Society because they allowed her to? Not everything under the sun can be blamed on other people. I am responding well to medication and therapy and hope to learn how to deal with my problem without the medicine soon. Untill then who do I blame? Lori

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Lori L. Koonce wrote: > Iilya > May I ask a few questions? > First of all what does any of this have to do with hypnosis? > And second of all it seems as if you believe that all mental illness is > the fault of outside forces that we cannot control.

I’m not talking about "mental illness." I’m talking about how a concept from psychology has been misused for evil ends. > What do you say to a person like me, who has a mental health condition > that is due to a serious chemical imbalance.

Take your meds. > Who do you blame in this case?

Who talked about blaming anyone? > Not everything under the sun can be blamed on other people.

What yanked your chain, lady? Read what I wrote before hanging on me such stereotypes.

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On 18 Jul 2005 07:14:51 -0700, ilya_shambat2…@yahoo.com wrote: >arethusa wrote: >> On 17 Jul 2005 13:08:03 -0700, "Ilya the Bat" >> <ibshambat2…@hotmail.com> wrote: >> "Lately your lack of self-esteem is just good sense." >Whose lack? >Sense according to whom?

dude, relax.  it was just a line from a movie i liked.  don’t take life so seriously, Ilya.  it’s too long and hard to be taken so seriously all the time.   denise

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In article <1121696707.576176.176…@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, purplelyn…@excite.com says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Iilya >May I ask a few questions? >First of all what does any of this have to do with hypnosis? >And second of all it seems as if you believe that all mental illness is >the fault of outside forces that we cannot control. >What do you say to a person like me, who has a mental health condition >that is due to a serious chemical imbalance.  Who do you blame in this >case? my mother for giving birth to me while smoking? Society because >they allowed her to? >Not everything under the sun can be blamed on other people. I am >responding well to medication and therapy and hope to learn how to deal >with my problem without the medicine soon. >Untill then who do I blame? >Lori

Blaming is looking at things in the immediate environment. Looking at it from further afield, yields a different perspective. Some people do live very hard and difficult lives (that is unfair and sometimes all too cruel) – perhaps ‘blaming’ someone/something for lifes’ unfairness is to still carry a chip with you, with an altogether unfair burden already – whereas looking at the situation spiritually – that with a difficult life, important spiritual and divine lessons are learnt, that of forgiveness and patience – and to connect with the divine and spiritual within yourself, which allows oneself to somehow overcome the terrible burden of living here. Harvey

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In article <1121630883.192710.69…@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, ibshambat2…@hotmail.com says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->One of the most evil ideas to have come out of psychology has been that >one needs to have good self-esteem in order to have relationships. As >someone who has scored medium on self-esteem test, I am quite qualified >to address this malignancy, without standing to be accused as either >having a low self-esteem or a high one. >The same person can be in a good place or in a bad place depending on >time, situation, social climate, decisions, etc. I’ve been up & down >(as has been my self-esteem) and so have most of the people I know. If >anything, if my experience is to be any guide, it’s when you’re down >that you most need to feel loved. >What is self-esteem? It is how a person feels about himself or herself. >And that of course can be a function of a million variables. The same >people who did well in 1960s did terribly in 1980s. The same character >that does well in one time does badly in another. And the same of >course is true among different geographical locations; professions; >belief structures; and everything else. >Now when I come out and tell the truth on this subject, I get >confronted with grating hypocrisy and malice. If you’re a man, in a bad >place, who badly needs love, then you are needy & need to pull yourself >up by the bootstraps. If you’re a man going with a woman who is in a >bad place, then you are a predator. >It is to be said that if you are a woman going with a man who is in a >bad place – or if you are a woman in a bad place going with a man – you >do not encounter this idiocy, but rather "concern" and "protection" >when of course the above had been utterly missing when the woman >actually needed it. >It is to be said likewise that the above takes place under the pretense >of feminism and its belief in equality between men and women, while in >fact containing some of the most patronizing, most chauvenistic, most >intellectually insulting attitudes that have been expressed in recent >society – a pretense and a belief that can only lead to "protection of >women for their own good" and the ensuing deprivation of them of all >meaningful rights and liberties. >So if you seek for love when you most need it – or seek to offer love >to someone who needs it likewise – you come under attack. >I am of the belief that this meme was created by the predatory >psychologists and distributed through the culture, in order that >millions of dollars pour into the pockets of those who feed on human >misery & prevent people from living for years upon years that they are >under their "care." >Ilya Shambat.

There are a lot of things that are fed to the public, that are unfair and downright ‘lies’ – and we have to put up with it. But living with such a mess of illogic and confusion can make life and living so much harder here when people cannot tell right from wrong and are purposefully confused. How do you know something is truthful and correct? Harvey

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ibshambat2…@hotmail.com wrote: > Lori L. Koonce wrote: > > Iilya > > May I ask a few questions? > > First of all what does any of this have to do with hypnosis?

Nothing.  He just thinks that everything he says sounds profound. Too much alcohol will also bring this state on. > > And second of all it seems as if you believe that all mental illness is > > the fault of outside forces that we cannot control. > I’m not talking about "mental illness." I’m talking about how a concept > from psychology has been misused for evil ends.

Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by sheer stupidity. > > What do you say to a person like me, who has a mental health condition > > that is due to a serious chemical imbalance. > Take your meds.

What a cruel man you are, Shambat! How do you face yourself in the mirror without puking? Clearly, yours are the words of a man with NO self esteem. > > Who do you blame in this case? > Who talked about blaming anyone?

You apparently haven’t been reading what you write. Too much alcohol will also bring THAT mental state about. > > Not everything under the sun can be blamed on other people. > What yanked your chain, lady?

See?  I already told you the same thing!  This isn’t about people having their chains yanked – it’s about the inappropriate concusions you reach being questioned. I fully understand why you feel THREATENED by that. Too bad – it is, after all, YOUR misconceptions, causing this. > Read what I wrote before hanging on me > such stereotypes.

But you’re EASY to stereotype, Shambat! So EASY! Who can resist?

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One of the most evil ideas to have come out of psychology has been that one needs to have good self-esteem in order to have relationships. As someone who has scored medium on self-esteem test, I am quite qualified to address this malignancy, without standing to be accused as either having a low self-esteem or a high one. The same person can be in a good place or in a bad place depending on time, situation, social climate, decisions, etc. I’ve been up & down (as has been my self-esteem) and so have most of the people I know. If anything, if my experience is to be any guide, it’s when you’re down that you most need to feel loved. What is self-esteem? It is how a person feels about himself or herself. And that of course can be a function of a million variables. The same people who did well in 1960s did terribly in 1980s. The same character that does well in one time does badly in another. And the same of course is true among different geographical locations; professions; belief structures; and everything else. Now when I come out and tell the truth on this subject, I get confronted with grating hypocrisy and malice. If you’re a man, in a bad place, who badly needs love, then you are needy & need to pull yourself up by the bootstraps. If you’re a man going with a woman who is in a bad place, then you are a predator. It is to be said that if you are a woman going with a man who is in a bad place – or if you are a woman in a bad place going with a man – you do not encounter this idiocy, but rather "concern" and "protection" when of course the above had been utterly missing when the woman actually needed it. It is to be said likewise that the above takes place under the pretense of feminism and its belief in equality between men and women, while in fact containing some of the most patronizing, most chauvenistic, most intellectually insulting attitudes that have been expressed in recent society – a pretense and a belief that can only lead to "protection of women for their own good" and the ensuing deprivation of them of all meaningful rights and liberties. So if you seek for love when you most need it – or seek to offer love to someone who needs it likewise – you come under attack. I am of the belief that this meme was created by the predatory psychologists and distributed through the culture, in order that millions of dollars pour into the pockets of those who feed on human misery & prevent people from living for years upon years that they are under their "care." Ilya Shambat.

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" Cody" <aka@[ notme ]maskedandanonymous.jj> wrote in message news:5bcze.48912$dr.16553@news.ono.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "greyhackles" <greyhack…@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message > news:r2dqc151nn1jp2svu931gg9mstjhl6uas9@4ax.com… >> On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:42:47 +0200, " Cody" <aka@[ notme >> ]maskedandanonymous.jj> wrote: >>>I notice you didn’t say anything about Geb Bixer’s sick lies: >>>Cody has a vendor cart.  He parks it in front of his mum’s brothel. >>>And yes, coincidently, he keeps a statue of Buddah on display, next to >>>a can of lighter fluid, magnifying glass and an icepick..  Surrounding >>>the statue are campo turds.  He trys to sell these campo turds as >>>breath enhancers to Nigerian fleet sailors who have gone just down on >>>his mum.  But you see, he never sells any thing  to any one.  Nothing >>>Cody has ever done has ever been right.  Cody is a total fuck up en >>>completus!  Case in point: he figured if he smoked or ate the campo >>>turds himself, he would set an example that others would follow.  Of >>>course it didn’t work.  Since he was located in front of a whore house >>>and none of the whores (except his mum [and only when she drunk and >>>delerious]) would  let him touch them, he decided to spank his own >>>monkey.  The problem was that he is so under endowed that the act >>>required a magnifying glass, ice pick and a can of lighter fluid.  One >>>day after 1500 Mandingos had been serviced by his mum in a circular >>>"around the world" scenario, Cody lost it; went wild beating off with >>>the ice pick, and punctured the lighter fluid can. The can exploded in >>>flames.  The magnifying glass was so close to his face the heat from >>>the fire intensified setting his rancid campo turd infested nose hairs >>>on fire.  Looking for water to douse the flames he picked up the statue >>>of buddah by mistake, and in the melee got confused and rammed it up >>>his ass.  Such is the life of Cody the gutless wonder who is not on, >>>nor ever will be, on tx.  He haunts the hep-c newsgroup trying to take >>>advantage of those in a weakened state who are.  Fuck you Cody, you >>>stinking low down piece of shit asshole!  Ahahahahahahahah!!! >>>- Geb Bixer >>>Why is that? >> Because you are nothing but a pita nuisance, who is rapidly becoming one >> whiney bitch to boot ("WAAAAH! Nobody here loves my act! WAAAAH!!") > You speak for everyone? Since when did Elmo give you moderator status? >> You contribute nothing to this board but pain, to a group with already >> more >> than enough pain, and nobody wants to catch whatever it is that has so >> obsessed you that you actually think anyone anywhere gives one flying >> fuck >> about your take on religion. > This is a lie. >>>"If what I say pisses people off to the point where someone reading this >>>thinks twice about believing in a god that doesn’t exist, I am >>>satisfied." >> Stupid twit, that says everything there is to know about you! > You know nothing of me. >> Basically, you are the hemorrhoid of ash-c. >> And the only person responsible for your position here is you. > Lovely. >> Cheers anyway… >> /greyhackles > Fuck off, asshole.

Charming. Mom – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> — > Cody > Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me. > Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.

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In article <kb2tc15b6apa2m8aimusia1li665r5v…@4ax.com>,  Kozure Ookami <swarg…@yahoo.com> wrote: [...] > Actually, that does not scientifically prove your statement.  Religion > is an attempt at an answer to the unhappiness and suffering of > mankind.

I really think that religious arguments are ultimately bad things because anyone that throw around are these "truths" which to many people aren’t true at all. Maybe you think you’re just arguing with Cody but the reality is that you will make statements that are inconsiderate of or insulting to other people who participate here who then are put in the position of saying something back – and maybe increasing the heat level – or not saying anything and letting things go unchallenged. It’s just not a good situation.

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Re: Now, THIS is Funny   You’re a few sandwiches short of a picnic, son. /////////// ahahahahahha!!!!  Now, THAT is funny.   Thanks to both of you.   ahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!! Elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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This poor masked and dangerous lunatic, Alias, has deep-seeded emotional problems.  As a child, he felt unloved by his parents and would do anything for attention, good or bad, even if it meant a spanking.  This behavior has continued well into his adult life and now it seems he thrives on bad behavior and the eventual spankings that follow.  I’d be willing to offer him my services, as his shrink, but my research over in the looney-bin precludes me from taking on his case.  I suggest you continue his therapeutic spankings. Dr Killborn

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On Fri, 8 Jul 2005 01:09:31 +0200, " Cody" <aka@[ notme - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -]maskedandanonymous.jj> wrote: >"Kozure Ookami" <swarg…@yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:c9uqc15ng5ftcdvs8unokoupci83mfvhih@4ax.com… >>>Fact: misleading religions and philosophies like Christianity, Judaism and >>>Islam are the fundamental causes for the unhappiness of mankind and unless >>>someone here is not a part of mankind, it affects them, hep C free, >>>infected >>>or otherwise. >> Fact?  Sounds more like an opinion to me.  Can you prove this in a >> scientific way. >"You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows". >All three religions have millenia of wars in the name of their non existent >gods and that, scientifically, proves what I say.

Actually, that does not scientifically prove your statement.  Religion is an attempt at an answer to the unhappiness and suffering of mankind.  Removing these religions will not make this go away. Poverty and sickness won’t go away. > Need a list?

No, some wars have been linked to religion but that usually a mask over underlying greed and quest for power.    

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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:50:26 +0200, " Cody" <aka@[ notme - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -]maskedandanonymous.jj> wrote: >"greyhackles" <greyhack…@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message >news:r2dqc151nn1jp2svu931gg9mstjhl6uas9@4ax.com… >> On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:42:47 +0200, " Cody" <aka@[ notme >> ]maskedandanonymous.jj> wrote: >>>I notice you didn’t say anything about Geb Bixer’s sick lies: >>>Cody has a vendor cart.  He parks it in front of his mum’s brothel. >>>And yes, coincidently, he keeps a statue of Buddah on display, next to >>>a can of lighter fluid, magnifying glass and an icepick..  Surrounding >>>the statue are campo turds.  He trys to sell these campo turds as >>>breath enhancers to Nigerian fleet sailors who have gone just down on >>>his mum.  But you see, he never sells any thing  to any one.  Nothing >>>Cody has ever done has ever been right.  Cody is a total fuck up en >>>completus!  Case in point: he figured if he smoked or ate the campo >>>turds himself, he would set an example that others would follow.  Of >>>course it didn’t work.  Since he was located in front of a whore house >>>and none of the whores (except his mum [and only when she drunk and >>>delerious]) would  let him touch them, he decided to spank his own >>>monkey.  The problem was that he is so under endowed that the act >>>required a magnifying glass, ice pick and a can of lighter fluid.  One >>>day after 1500 Mandingos had been serviced by his mum in a circular >>>"around the world" scenario, Cody lost it; went wild beating off with >>>the ice pick, and punctured the lighter fluid can. The can exploded in >>>flames.  The magnifying glass was so close to his face the heat from >>>the fire intensified setting his rancid campo turd infested nose hairs >>>on fire.  Looking for water to douse the flames he picked up the statue >>>of buddah by mistake, and in the melee got confused and rammed it up >>>his ass.  Such is the life of Cody the gutless wonder who is not on, >>>nor ever will be, on tx.  He haunts the hep-c newsgroup trying to take >>>advantage of those in a weakened state who are.  Fuck you Cody, you >>>stinking low down piece of shit asshole!  Ahahahahahahahah!!! >>>- Geb Bixer >>>Why is that? >> Because you are nothing but a pita nuisance, who is rapidly becoming one >> whiney bitch to boot ("WAAAAH! Nobody here loves my act! WAAAAH!!") >You speak for everyone? Since when did Elmo give you moderator status?

I speak for me, but it is clear my observations are *hardly* unique. And evasion won’t fix your problem, will it? >> You contribute nothing to this board but pain, to a group with already >> more than enough pain, and nobody wants to catch whatever it is that has so >> obsessed you that you actually think anyone anywhere gives one flying fuck >> about your take on religion. >This is a lie.

You actually think you could win a vote on that point, here?? You’re a few sandwiches short of a picnic, son. >>>"If what I say pisses people off to the point where someone reading this >>>thinks twice about believing in a god that doesn’t exist, I am satisfied." >> Stupid twit, that says everything there is to know about you! >You know nothing of me.

Oh, I know *everything* about you that counts *here*. And all of it is your own work. Nothing else actually matters *here*, does it? Your ash-c persona is all I have to go on. And frankly, *here* you are human flotsam. Less than zero. >> Basically, you are the hemorrhoid of ash-c. >> And the only person responsible for your position here is you. >Lovely.

Apt. >> Cheers anyway… >> /greyhackles >Fuck off, asshole.

Ah, yes. Leave no reason for doubt. Nice work, once again You posed a question in an open forum. Stop whining and deal with the answer. And do have a pleasant day. /greyhackles

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>Fact: misleading religions and philosophies like Christianity, Judaism and >Islam are the fundamental causes for the unhappiness of mankind and unless >someone here is not a part of mankind, it affects them, hep C free, infected >or otherwise.

Fact?  Sounds more like an opinion to me.  Can you prove this in a scientific way.  

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"Kozure Ookami" <swarg…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:c9uqc15ng5ftcdvs8unokoupci83mfvhih@4ax.com… >>Fact: misleading religions and philosophies like Christianity, Judaism and >>Islam are the fundamental causes for the unhappiness of mankind and unless >>someone here is not a part of mankind, it affects them, hep C free, >>infected >>or otherwise. > Fact?  Sounds more like an opinion to me.  Can you prove this in a > scientific way.

"You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows". All three religions have millenia of wars in the name of their non existent gods and that, scientifically, proves what I say. Need a list? — Cody Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me. Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.

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You are defending yourself? LOL! War is bad. Being a soldier is STUPID! Christianity is bad. Islam is bad. Judaism is bad. Hinduism is bad. Not my fault that they are bad. It IS the reason London got blown up today but you were too busy smelling your own farts to notice. — Cody Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me. Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail. <elmoemer…@webtv.net> wrote in message

news:9648-42CD391D-21@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> You have a marvelous way of embellishing the truth, Cody.  Fact is, > you’re the only one that’s gotten fart gas in his face from me, and the > only imaginary groping i’ve done is on folk that can appreciate the > humor.  If I’ve groped someone in an objectional manner, let them tell > me and I’ll keep my hands to myself.  Aside from my joking about you > living in a campo garbage can (now who would really believe that, > anyway?) what lies have I told about people? > You seem to have forgotten your insults to Lana, HC, Bobby, Dez, Mom, > all the Christians, american veterans, etc., which precipitates having > dog turds thrown at you in your campo garbage can. > Elmo > /////////// > Just curious, what have I posted that is objectionable? Compared to > lying about people like Elmo and Geb do, I am quite civilized. I don’t > throw imaginary turds at anyone. I don’t tell people I am going to fart > in their face or grope their tits and ass like Elmo does. How come you > don’t take them to task for what they do? > Fact: misleading religions and philosophies like Christianity, Judaism > and > Islam are the fundamental causes for the unhappiness of mankind and > unless someone here is not a part of mankind, it affects them, hep C > free, infected or otherwise. > Other than being human and occasionally overreacting to a post, I don’t > think I have gone over the top at all here. > If what I say pisses people off to the point where someone reading this > thinks twice about believing in a god that doesn’t exist, I am > satisfied. > — > Cody > Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me. > Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail. > "Red Dwarf" <sbordonej…@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message > news:6rnye.11586$aA5.7089@tornado.socal.rr.com… > It’s not only very funny, it’s also an infinite improvement in the > quality of your posts. I’m sincerely hoping that this change for the > better will be the norm for you, and not the rare exception. I always > thought you had something more positive to offer than some of the > earlier stuff that sometimes pisses folks off. But, I will admit that > it’s sometimes fun to pull the tigers tail. But when people are hurting > and suffering and afraid, we sometimes over-react. At least thats true > for me, and perhaps others.I for one, Cody or Alias or whoever you are, > would love to see more of this stuff from you. Keep up the good stuff. > John > " Cody" <aka@[ notme ]maskedandanonymous.pt> wrote in message > news:J8eye.48512$dr.39424@news.ono.com… > Senior citizen in Florida bought a brand new Mercedes convertible. He > took off down the road, bringing it to 80 mph and enjoying the wind > blowing through what little hair he had left on his head. "This is > great," He thought as he roared down I-75. > He pushed the pedal to the metal even more. Then, he looked in his rear > view mirror and saw a highway patrol trooper behind him, blue lights > flashing and siren blaring. "I can get away from him with no problem," > thought the man, as he tromped it some more and flew down the road at > over 100 mph. Then 110…120 mph, he thought, "What am I doing? I’m too > old for this kind of thing!" > He pulled over to the side of the road and waited for the trooper to > catch up with him. The trooper pulled in behind the Mercedes and walked > up to the man. > "Sir," he said, looking at his watch, "my shift ends in 30 minutes and > today is Friday. If you can give me a reason why you were speeding that > I’ve never heard before, I’ll let you go." The man looked at the trooper > and said, "A few weeks ago my wife ran off with a Florida State trooper, > and I thought you were bringing her back." > The trooper replied, "Sir, have a nice day." > http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile > http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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"greyhackles" <greyhack…@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message

news:r2dqc151nn1jp2svu931gg9mstjhl6uas9@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:42:47 +0200, " Cody" <aka@[ notme > ]maskedandanonymous.jj> wrote: >>I notice you didn’t say anything about Geb Bixer’s sick lies: >>Cody has a vendor cart.  He parks it in front of his mum’s brothel. >>And yes, coincidently, he keeps a statue of Buddah on display, next to >>a can of lighter fluid, magnifying glass and an icepick..  Surrounding >>the statue are campo turds.  He trys to sell these campo turds as >>breath enhancers to Nigerian fleet sailors who have gone just down on >>his mum.  But you see, he never sells any thing  to any one.  Nothing >>Cody has ever done has ever been right.  Cody is a total fuck up en >>completus!  Case in point: he figured if he smoked or ate the campo >>turds himself, he would set an example that others would follow.  Of >>course it didn’t work.  Since he was located in front of a whore house >>and none of the whores (except his mum [and only when she drunk and >>delerious]) would  let him touch them, he decided to spank his own >>monkey.  The problem was that he is so under endowed that the act >>required a magnifying glass, ice pick and a can of lighter fluid.  One >>day after 1500 Mandingos had been serviced by his mum in a circular >>"around the world" scenario, Cody lost it; went wild beating off with >>the ice pick, and punctured the lighter fluid can. The can exploded in >>flames.  The magnifying glass was so close to his face the heat from >>the fire intensified setting his rancid campo turd infested nose hairs >>on fire.  Looking for water to douse the flames he picked up the statue >>of buddah by mistake, and in the melee got confused and rammed it up >>his ass.  Such is the life of Cody the gutless wonder who is not on, >>nor ever will be, on tx.  He haunts the hep-c newsgroup trying to take >>advantage of those in a weakened state who are.  Fuck you Cody, you >>stinking low down piece of shit asshole!  Ahahahahahahahah!!! >>- Geb Bixer >>Why is that? > Because you are nothing but a pita nuisance, who is rapidly becoming one > whiney bitch to boot ("WAAAAH! Nobody here loves my act! WAAAAH!!")

You speak for everyone? Since when did Elmo give you moderator status? > You contribute nothing to this board but pain, to a group with already > more > than enough pain, and nobody wants to catch whatever it is that has so > obsessed you that you actually think anyone anywhere gives one flying fuck > about your take on religion.

This is a lie. >>"If what I say pisses people off to the point where someone reading this >>thinks twice about believing in a god that doesn’t exist, I am satisfied." > Stupid twit, that says everything there is to know about you!

You know nothing of me. > Basically, you are the hemorrhoid of ash-c. > And the only person responsible for your position here is you.

Lovely. > Cheers anyway… > /greyhackles

Fuck off, asshole. — Cody Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me. Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.

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"Cactus Jammies" <n…@joshuatree.nemor> wrote in message

news:u0bze.122797$tt5.5959@edtnps90… > That’s humour, idiot.  You are totally disfunctional human being. > cactus jammies

You call that humor? You’re as sick in the head as Geb is. — Cody Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me. Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> //////////////////////////////////////////////////// > " Cody" <aka@[ notme ]maskedandanonymous.jj> wrote in message > news:ar9ze.55240$US.47283@news.ono.com… >>I notice you didn’t say anything about Geb Bixer’s sick lies: >> Cody has a vendor cart.  He parks it in front of his mum’s brothel. >> And yes, coincidently, he keeps a statue of Buddah on display, next to >> a can of lighter fluid, magnifying glass and an icepick..  Surrounding >> the statue are campo turds.  He trys to sell these campo turds as >> breath enhancers to Nigerian fleet sailors who have gone just down on >> his mum.  But you see, he never sells any thing  to any one.  Nothing >> Cody has ever done has ever been right.  Cody is a total fuck up en >> completus!  Case in point: he figured if he smoked or ate the campo >> turds himself, he would set an example that others would follow.  Of >> course it didn’t work.  Since he was located in front of a whore house >> and none of the whores (except his mum [and only when she drunk and >> delerious]) would  let him touch them, he decided to spank his own >> monkey.  The problem was that he is so under endowed that the act >> required a magnifying glass, ice pick and a can of lighter fluid.  One >> day after 1500 Mandingos had been serviced by his mum in a circular >> "around the world" scenario, Cody lost it; went wild beating off with >> the ice pick, and punctured the lighter fluid can. The can exploded in >> flames.  The magnifying glass was so close to his face the heat from >> the fire intensified setting his rancid campo turd infested nose hairs >> on fire.  Looking for water to douse the flames he picked up the statue >> of buddah by mistake, and in the melee got confused and rammed it up >> his ass.  Such is the life of Cody the gutless wonder who is not on, >> nor ever will be, on tx.  He haunts the hep-c newsgroup trying to take >> advantage of those in a weakened state who are.  Fuck you Cody, you >> stinking low down piece of shit asshole!  Ahahahahahahahah!!! >> – Geb Bixer >> Why is that? >> — >> Cody >> Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me. >> Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail. >> "Red Dwarf" <sbordonej…@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:6rnye.11586$aA5.7089@tornado.socal.rr.com… >>> It’s not only very funny, it’s also an infinite improvement in the >>> quality of your posts. I’m sincerely hoping that this change for the >>> better will be the norm for you, and not the rare exception. I always >>> thought you had something more positive to offer than some of the >>> earlier stuff that sometimes pisses folks off. But, I will admit that >>> it’s sometimes fun to pull the tigers tail. But when people are hurting >>> and suffering and afraid, we sometimes over-react. At least thats true >>> for me, and perhaps others.I for one, Cody or Alias or whoever you are, >>> would love to see more of this stuff from you. Keep up the good stuff. >>> John >>> " Cody" <aka@[ notme ]maskedandanonymous.pt> wrote in message >>> news:J8eye.48512$dr.39424@news.ono.com… >>>> Senior citizen in Florida bought a brand new Mercedes convertible.  He >>>> took off down the road, bringing it to 80 mph and enjoying the wind >>>> blowing through what little hair he had left on his head. >>>> "This is great," He thought as he roared down I-75. >>>> He pushed the pedal to the metal even more. Then, he looked in his rear >>>> view mirror and saw a highway patrol trooper behind him, blue lights >>>> flashing and siren blaring.  "I can get away from him with no problem," >>>> thought the man, as he tromped it some more and flew down the road at >>>> over 100 mph.  Then 110…120 mph, he thought, "What am I doing?  I’m >>>> too old for this kind of thing!" >>>> He pulled over to the side of the road and waited for the trooper to >>>> catch up with him.  The trooper pulled in behind the Mercedes and >>>> walked up to the man. >>>> "Sir," he said, looking at his watch, "my shift ends in 30 minutes and >>>> today is Friday.  If you can give me a reason why you were speeding >>>> that I’ve never heard before, I’ll let you go."  The man looked at the >>>> trooper and said, "A few weeks ago my wife ran off with a Florida State >>>> trooper, and I thought you were bringing her back." >>>> The trooper replied, "Sir, have a nice day."

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That’s humour, idiot.  You are totally disfunctional human being. cactus jammies //////////////////////////////////////////////////// " Cody" <aka@[ notme ]maskedandanonymous.jj> wrote in message news:ar9ze.55240$US.47283@news.ono.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I notice you didn’t say anything about Geb Bixer’s sick lies: > Cody has a vendor cart.  He parks it in front of his mum’s brothel. > And yes, coincidently, he keeps a statue of Buddah on display, next to > a can of lighter fluid, magnifying glass and an icepick..  Surrounding > the statue are campo turds.  He trys to sell these campo turds as > breath enhancers to Nigerian fleet sailors who have gone just down on > his mum.  But you see, he never sells any thing  to any one.  Nothing > Cody has ever done has ever been right.  Cody is a total fuck up en > completus!  Case in point: he figured if he smoked or ate the campo > turds himself, he would set an example that others would follow.  Of > course it didn’t work.  Since he was located in front of a whore house > and none of the whores (except his mum [and only when she drunk and > delerious]) would  let him touch them, he decided to spank his own > monkey.  The problem was that he is so under endowed that the act > required a magnifying glass, ice pick and a can of lighter fluid.  One > day after 1500 Mandingos had been serviced by his mum in a circular > "around the world" scenario, Cody lost it; went wild beating off with > the ice pick, and punctured the lighter fluid can. The can exploded in > flames.  The magnifying glass was so close to his face the heat from > the fire intensified setting his rancid campo turd infested nose hairs > on fire.  Looking for water to douse the flames he picked up the statue > of buddah by mistake, and in the melee got confused and rammed it up > his ass.  Such is the life of Cody the gutless wonder who is not on, > nor ever will be, on tx.  He haunts the hep-c newsgroup trying to take > advantage of those in a weakened state who are.  Fuck you Cody, you > stinking low down piece of shit asshole!  Ahahahahahahahah!!! > – Geb Bixer > Why is that? > — > Cody > Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me. > Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail. > "Red Dwarf" <sbordonej…@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message > news:6rnye.11586$aA5.7089@tornado.socal.rr.com… >> It’s not only very funny, it’s also an infinite improvement in the >> quality of your posts. I’m sincerely hoping that this change for the >> better will be the norm for you, and not the rare exception. I always >> thought you had something more positive to offer than some of the earlier >> stuff that sometimes pisses folks off. But, I will admit that it’s >> sometimes fun to pull the tigers tail. But when people are hurting and >> suffering and afraid, we sometimes over-react. At least thats true for >> me, and perhaps others.I for one, Cody or Alias or whoever you are, would >> love to see more of this stuff from you. Keep up the good stuff. >> John >> " Cody" <aka@[ notme ]maskedandanonymous.pt> wrote in message >> news:J8eye.48512$dr.39424@news.ono.com… >>> Senior citizen in Florida bought a brand new Mercedes convertible.  He >>> took off down the road, bringing it to 80 mph and enjoying the wind >>> blowing through what little hair he had left on his head. >>> "This is great," He thought as he roared down I-75. >>> He pushed the pedal to the metal even more. Then, he looked in his rear >>> view mirror and saw a highway patrol trooper behind him, blue lights >>> flashing and siren blaring.  "I can get away from him with no problem," >>> thought the man, as he tromped it some more and flew down the road at >>> over 100 mph.  Then 110…120 mph, he thought, "What am I doing?  I’m >>> too old for this kind of thing!" >>> He pulled over to the side of the road and waited for the trooper to >>> catch up with him.  The trooper pulled in behind the Mercedes and walked >>> up to the man. >>> "Sir," he said, looking at his watch, "my shift ends in 30 minutes and >>> today is Friday.  If you can give me a reason why you were speeding that >>> I’ve never heard before, I’ll let you go."  The man looked at the >>> trooper and said, "A few weeks ago my wife ran off with a Florida State >>> trooper, and I thought you were bringing her back." >>> The trooper replied, "Sir, have a nice day."

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ahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!! ////////// I notice you didn’t say anything about Geb Bixer’s sick lies: Cody has a vendor cart. He parks it in front of his mum’s brothel. And yes, coincidently, he keeps a statue of Buddah on display, next to a can of lighter fluid, magnifying glass and an icepick.. Surrounding the statue are campo turds. He trys to sell these campo turds as breath enhancers to Nigerian fleet sailors who have gone just down on his mum. But you see, he never sells any thing to any one. Nothing Cody has ever done has ever been right. Cody is a total fuck up en completus! Case in point: he figured if he smoked or ate the campo turds himself, he would set an example that others would follow. Of course it didn’t work. Since he was located in front of a whore house and none of the whores (except his mum [and only when she drunk and delerious]) would let him touch them, he decided to spank his own monkey. The problem was that he is so under endowed that the act required a magnifying glass, ice pick and a can of lighter fluid. One day after 1500 Mandingos had been serviced by his mum in a circular "around the world" scenario, Cody lost it; went wild beating off with the ice pick, and punctured the lighter fluid can. The can exploded in flames. The magnifying glass was so close to his face the heat from the fire intensified setting his rancid campo turd infested nose hairs on fire. Looking for water to douse the flames he picked up the statue of buddah by mistake, and in the melee got confused and rammed it up his ass. Such is the life of Cody the gutless wonder who is not on, nor ever will be, on tx. He haunts the hep-c newsgroup trying to take advantage of those in a weakened state who are. Fuck you Cody, you stinking low down piece of shit asshole! Ahahahahahahahah!!! – Geb Bixer Why is that? — Cody Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me. Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail. "Red Dwarf" <sbordonej…@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message

news:6rnye.11586$aA5.7089@tornado.socal.rr.com… It’s not only very funny, it’s also an infinite improvement in the quality of your posts. I’m sincerely hoping that this change for the better will be the norm for you, and not the rare exception. I always thought you had something more positive to offer than some of the earlier stuff that sometimes pisses folks off. But, I will admit that it’s sometimes fun to pull the tigers tail. But when people are hurting and suffering and afraid, we sometimes over-react. At least thats true for me, and perhaps others.I for one, Cody or Alias or whoever you are, would love to see more of this stuff from you. Keep up the good stuff. John " Cody" <aka@[ notme ]maskedandanonymous.pt> wrote in message news:J8eye.48512$dr.39424@news.ono.com… Senior citizen in Florida bought a brand new Mercedes convertible. He took off down the road, bringing it to 80 mph and enjoying the wind blowing through what little hair he had left on his head. "This is great," He thought as he roared down I-75. He pushed the pedal to the metal even more. Then, he looked in his rear view mirror and saw a highway patrol trooper behind him, blue lights flashing and siren blaring. "I can get away from him with no problem," thought the man, as he tromped it some more and flew down the road at over 100 mph. Then 110…120 mph, he thought, "What am I doing? I’m too old for this kind of thing!" He pulled over to the side of the road and waited for the trooper to catch up with him. The trooper pulled in behind the Mercedes and walked up to the man. "Sir," he said, looking at his watch, "my shift ends in 30 minutes and today is Friday. If you can give me a reason why you were speeding that I’ve never heard before, I’ll let you go." The man looked at the trooper and said, "A few weeks ago my wife ran off with a Florida State trooper, and I thought you were bringing her back." The trooper replied, "Sir, have a nice day." http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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You have a marvelous way of embellishing the truth, Cody.  Fact is, you’re the only one that’s gotten fart gas in his face from me, and the only imaginary groping i’ve done is on folk that can appreciate the humor.  If I’ve groped someone in an objectional manner, let them tell me and I’ll keep my hands to myself.  Aside from my joking about you living in a campo garbage can (now who would really believe that, anyway?) what lies have I told about people?   You seem to have forgotten your insults to Lana, HC, Bobby, Dez, Mom, all the Christians, american veterans, etc., which precipitates having dog turds thrown at you in your campo garbage can.     Elmo /////////// Just curious, what have I posted that is objectionable? Compared to lying about people like Elmo and Geb do, I am quite civilized. I don’t throw imaginary turds at anyone. I don’t tell people I am going to fart in their face or grope their tits and ass like Elmo does. How come you don’t take them to task for what they do? Fact: misleading religions and philosophies like Christianity, Judaism and Islam are the fundamental causes for the unhappiness of mankind and unless someone here is not a part of mankind, it affects them, hep C free, infected or otherwise. Other than being human and occasionally overreacting to a post, I don’t think I have gone over the top at all here. If what I say pisses people off to the point where someone reading this thinks twice about believing in a god that doesn’t exist, I am satisfied. — Cody Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me. Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail. "Red Dwarf" <sbordonej…@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message

news:6rnye.11586$aA5.7089@tornado.socal.rr.com… It’s not only very funny, it’s also an infinite improvement in the quality of your posts. I’m sincerely hoping that this change for the better will be the norm for you, and not the rare exception. I always thought you had something more positive to offer than some of the earlier stuff that sometimes pisses folks off. But, I will admit that it’s sometimes fun to pull the tigers tail. But when people are hurting and suffering and afraid, we sometimes over-react. At least thats true for me, and perhaps others.I for one, Cody or Alias or whoever you are, would love to see more of this stuff from you. Keep up the good stuff. John " Cody" <aka@[ notme ]maskedandanonymous.pt> wrote in message news:J8eye.48512$dr.39424@news.ono.com… Senior citizen in Florida bought a brand new Mercedes convertible. He took off down the road, bringing it to 80 mph and enjoying the wind blowing through what little hair he had left on his head. "This is great," He thought as he roared down I-75. He pushed the pedal to the metal even more. Then, he looked in his rear view mirror and saw a highway patrol trooper behind him, blue lights flashing and siren blaring. "I can get away from him with no problem," thought the man, as he tromped it some more and flew down the road at over 100 mph. Then 110…120 mph, he thought, "What am I doing? I’m too old for this kind of thing!" He pulled over to the side of the road and waited for the trooper to catch up with him. The trooper pulled in behind the Mercedes and walked up to the man. "Sir," he said, looking at his watch, "my shift ends in 30 minutes and today is Friday. If you can give me a reason why you were speeding that I’ve never heard before, I’ll let you go." The man looked at the trooper and said, "A few weeks ago my wife ran off with a Florida State trooper, and I thought you were bringing her back." The trooper replied, "Sir, have a nice day." http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:42:47 +0200, " Cody" <aka@[ notme - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -]maskedandanonymous.jj> wrote: >I notice you didn’t say anything about Geb Bixer’s sick lies: >Cody has a vendor cart.  He parks it in front of his mum’s brothel. >And yes, coincidently, he keeps a statue of Buddah on display, next to >a can of lighter fluid, magnifying glass and an icepick..  Surrounding >the statue are campo turds.  He trys to sell these campo turds as >breath enhancers to Nigerian fleet sailors who have gone just down on >his mum.  But you see, he never sells any thing  to any one.  Nothing >Cody has ever done has ever been right.  Cody is a total fuck up en >completus!  Case in point: he figured if he smoked or ate the campo >turds himself, he would set an example that others would follow.  Of >course it didn’t work.  Since he was located in front of a whore house >and none of the whores (except his mum [and only when she drunk and >delerious]) would  let him touch them, he decided to spank his own >monkey.  The problem was that he is so under endowed that the act >required a magnifying glass, ice pick and a can of lighter fluid.  One >day after 1500 Mandingos had been serviced by his mum in a circular >"around the world" scenario, Cody lost it; went wild beating off with >the ice pick, and punctured the lighter fluid can. The can exploded in >flames.  The magnifying glass was so close to his face the heat from >the fire intensified setting his rancid campo turd infested nose hairs >on fire.  Looking for water to douse the flames he picked up the statue >of buddah by mistake, and in the melee got confused and rammed it up >his ass.  Such is the life of Cody the gutless wonder who is not on, >nor ever will be, on tx.  He haunts the hep-c newsgroup trying to take >advantage of those in a weakened state who are.  Fuck you Cody, you >stinking low down piece of shit asshole!  Ahahahahahahahah!!! >- Geb Bixer >Why is that?

Because you are nothing but a pita nuisance, who is rapidly becoming one whiney bitch to boot ("WAAAAH! Nobody here loves my act! WAAAAH!!") You contribute nothing to this board but pain, to a group with already more than enough pain, and nobody wants to catch whatever it is that has so obsessed you that you actually think anyone anywhere gives one flying fuck about your take on religion. >"If what I say pisses people off to the point where someone reading this >thinks twice about believing in a god that doesn’t exist, I am satisfied."

Stupid twit, that says everything there is to know about you! Basically, you are the hemorrhoid of ash-c. And the only person responsible for your position here is you. Cheers anyway… /greyhackles

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I notice you didn’t say anything about Geb Bixer’s sick lies: Cody has a vendor cart.  He parks it in front of his mum’s brothel. And yes, coincidently, he keeps a statue of Buddah on display, next to a can of lighter fluid, magnifying glass and an icepick..  Surrounding the statue are campo turds.  He trys to sell these campo turds as breath enhancers to Nigerian fleet sailors who have gone just down on his mum.  But you see, he never sells any thing  to any one.  Nothing Cody has ever done has ever been right.  Cody is a total fuck up en completus!  Case in point: he figured if he smoked or ate the campo turds himself, he would set an example that others would follow.  Of course it didn’t work.  Since he was located in front of a whore house and none of the whores (except his mum [and only when she drunk and delerious]) would  let him touch them, he decided to spank his own monkey.  The problem was that he is so under endowed that the act required a magnifying glass, ice pick and a can of lighter fluid.  One day after 1500 Mandingos had been serviced by his mum in a circular "around the world" scenario, Cody lost it; went wild beating off with the ice pick, and punctured the lighter fluid can. The can exploded in flames.  The magnifying glass was so close to his face the heat from the fire intensified setting his rancid campo turd infested nose hairs on fire.  Looking for water to douse the flames he picked up the statue of buddah by mistake, and in the melee got confused and rammed it up his ass.  Such is the life of Cody the gutless wonder who is not on, nor ever will be, on tx.  He haunts the hep-c newsgroup trying to take advantage of those in a weakened state who are.  Fuck you Cody, you stinking low down piece of shit asshole!  Ahahahahahahahah!!! – Geb Bixer Why is that? — Cody Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me. Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail. "Red Dwarf" <sbordonej…@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message

news:6rnye.11586$aA5.7089@tornado.socal.rr.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> It’s not only very funny, it’s also an infinite improvement in the quality > of your posts. I’m sincerely hoping that this change for the better will > be the norm for you, and not the rare exception. I always thought you had > something more positive to offer than some of the earlier stuff that > sometimes pisses folks off. But, I will admit that it’s sometimes fun to > pull the tigers tail. But when people are hurting and suffering and > afraid, we sometimes over-react. At least thats true for me, and perhaps > others.I for one, Cody or Alias or whoever you are, would love to see more > of this stuff from you. Keep up the good stuff. > John > " Cody" <aka@[ notme ]maskedandanonymous.pt> wrote in message > news:J8eye.48512$dr.39424@news.ono.com… >> Senior citizen in Florida bought a brand new Mercedes convertible.  He >> took off down the road, bringing it to 80 mph and enjoying the wind >> blowing through what little hair he had left on his head. >> "This is great," He thought as he roared down I-75. >> He pushed the pedal to the metal even more. Then, he looked in his rear >> view mirror and saw a highway patrol trooper behind him, blue lights >> flashing and siren blaring.  "I can get away from him with no problem," >> thought the man, as he tromped it some more and flew down the road at >> over 100 mph.  Then 110…120 mph, he thought, "What am I doing?  I’m too >> old for this kind of thing!" >> He pulled over to the side of the road and waited for the trooper to >> catch up with him.  The trooper pulled in behind the Mercedes and walked >> up to the man. >> "Sir," he said, looking at his watch, "my shift ends in 30 minutes and >> today is Friday.  If you can give me a reason why you were speeding that >> I’ve never heard before, I’ll let you go."  The man looked at the trooper >> and said, "A few weeks ago my wife ran off with a Florida State trooper, >> and I thought you were bringing her back." >> The trooper replied, "Sir, have a nice day."

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Senior citizen in Florida bought a brand new Mercedes convertible.  He took off down the road, bringing it to 80 mph and enjoying the wind blowing through what little hair he had left on his head. "This is great," He thought as he roared down I-75. He pushed the pedal to the metal even more. Then, he looked in his rear view mirror and saw a highway patrol trooper behind him, blue lights flashing and siren blaring.  "I can get away from him with no problem," thought the man, as he tromped it some more and flew down the road at over 100 mph.  Then 110…120 mph, he thought, "What am I doing?  I’m too old for this kind of thing!" He pulled over to the side of the road and waited for the trooper to catch up with him.  The trooper pulled in behind the Mercedes and walked up to the man. "Sir," he said, looking at his watch, "my shift ends in 30 minutes and today is Friday.  If you can give me a reason why you were speeding that I’ve never heard before, I’ll let you go."  The man looked at the trooper and said, "A few weeks ago my wife ran off with a Florida State trooper, and I thought you were bringing her back." The trooper replied, "Sir, have a nice day."

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Just curious, what have I posted that is objectionable? Compared to lying about people like Elmo and Geb do, I am quite civilized. I don’t throw imaginary turds at anyone. I don’t tell people I am going to fart in their face or grope their tits and ass like Elmo does. How come you don’t take them to task for what they do? Fact: misleading religions and philosophies like Christianity, Judaism and Islam are the fundamental causes for the unhappiness of mankind and unless someone here is not a part of mankind, it affects them, hep C free, infected or otherwise. Other than being human and occasionally overreacting to a post, I don’t think I have gone over the top at all here. If what I say pisses people off to the point where someone reading this thinks twice about believing in a god that doesn’t exist, I am satisfied. — Cody Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me. Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail. "Red Dwarf" <sbordonej…@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message

news:6rnye.11586$aA5.7089@tornado.socal.rr.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> It’s not only very funny, it’s also an infinite improvement in the quality > of your posts. I’m sincerely hoping that this change for the better will > be the norm for you, and not the rare exception. I always thought you had > something more positive to offer than some of the earlier stuff that > sometimes pisses folks off. But, I will admit that it’s sometimes fun to > pull the tigers tail. But when people are hurting and suffering and > afraid, we sometimes over-react. At least thats true for me, and perhaps > others.I for one, Cody or Alias or whoever you are, would love to see more > of this stuff from you. Keep up the good stuff. > John > " Cody" <aka@[ notme ]maskedandanonymous.pt> wrote in message > news:J8eye.48512$dr.39424@news.ono.com… >> Senior citizen in Florida bought a brand new Mercedes convertible.  He >> took off down the road, bringing it to 80 mph and enjoying the wind >> blowing through what little hair he had left on his head. >> "This is great," He thought as he roared down I-75. >> He pushed the pedal to the metal even more. Then, he looked in his rear >> view mirror and saw a highway patrol trooper behind him, blue lights >> flashing and siren blaring.  "I can get away from him with no problem," >> thought the man, as he tromped it some more and flew down the road at >> over 100 mph.  Then 110…120 mph, he thought, "What am I doing?  I’m too >> old for this kind of thing!" >> He pulled over to the side of the road and waited for the trooper to >> catch up with him.  The trooper pulled in behind the Mercedes and walked >> up to the man. >> "Sir," he said, looking at his watch, "my shift ends in 30 minutes and >> today is Friday.  If you can give me a reason why you were speeding that >> I’ve never heard before, I’ll let you go."  The man looked at the trooper >> and said, "A few weeks ago my wife ran off with a Florida State trooper, >> and I thought you were bringing her back." >> The trooper replied, "Sir, have a nice day."

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AAAHAAAAAAA!Now that’s funny. Peace & SVR, BrianD " Cody" <aka@[ notme ]maskedandanonymous.pt> wrote in message news:J8eye.48512$dr.39424@news.ono.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Senior citizen in Florida bought a brand new Mercedes convertible.  He > took off down the road, bringing it to 80 mph and enjoying the wind > blowing through what little hair he had left on his head. > "This is great," He thought as he roared down I-75. > He pushed the pedal to the metal even more. Then, he looked in his rear > view mirror and saw a highway patrol trooper behind him, blue lights > flashing and siren blaring.  "I can get away from him with no problem," > thought the man, as he tromped it some more and flew down the road at over > 100 mph.  Then 110…120 mph, he thought, "What am I doing?  I’m too old > for this kind of thing!" > He pulled over to the side of the road and waited for the trooper to catch > up with him.  The trooper pulled in behind the Mercedes and walked up to > the man. > "Sir," he said, looking at his watch, "my shift ends in 30 minutes and > today is Friday.  If you can give me a reason why you were speeding that > I’ve never heard before, I’ll let you go."  The man looked at the trooper > and said, "A few weeks ago my wife ran off with a Florida State trooper, > and I thought you were bringing her back." > The trooper replied, "Sir, have a nice day."

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This kid thinks fast on his feet. It’s usually much later on that we think of something quite disarming to say John "Russ" <sourdo55 at yahoo.com> wrote in message news:11cj4oqboq1foea@corp.supernews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I guess this was a true story: > A cop somewhere in America had his radar set up. Along came some kid > speeding and the cop pulls him over. "Son" the cop says, "I’ve been > waiting > for you all day". The kid replies without hesitation, "I tried to get here > as fast as I could". The cop was laughing so hard he let the kid go….. > — > Russ > Visit Alaska @ http://www.tannersacre.com > <elmoemer…@webtv.net> wrote in message > news:21239-42C97387-913@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net… >> Did he toot his horn? >> Toooooot toooooot!!!!!! >> Elmo >> (it’s funny) >> http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile >> http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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Did he toot his horn? Toooooot toooooot!!!!!! Elmo (it’s funny) http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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Good one! " Cody" <aka@[ notme ]maskedandanonymous.pt> wrote in message news:J8eye.48512$dr.39424@news.ono.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Senior citizen in Florida bought a brand new Mercedes convertible.  He > took off down the road, bringing it to 80 mph and enjoying the wind > blowing through what little hair he had left on his head. > "This is great," He thought as he roared down I-75. > He pushed the pedal to the metal even more. Then, he looked in his rear > view mirror and saw a highway patrol trooper behind him, blue lights > flashing and siren blaring.  "I can get away from him with no problem," > thought the man, as he tromped it some more and flew down the road at over > 100 mph.  Then 110…120 mph, he thought, "What am I doing?  I’m too old > for this kind of thing!" > He pulled over to the side of the road and waited for the trooper to catch > up with him.  The trooper pulled in behind the Mercedes and walked up to > the man. > "Sir," he said, looking at his watch, "my shift ends in 30 minutes and > today is Friday.  If you can give me a reason why you were speeding that > I’ve never heard before, I’ll let you go."  The man looked at the trooper > and said, "A few weeks ago my wife ran off with a Florida State trooper, > and I thought you were bringing her back." > The trooper replied, "Sir, have a nice day."

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I guess this was a true story: A cop somewhere in America had his radar set up. Along came some kid speeding and the cop pulls him over. "Son" the cop says, "I’ve been waiting for you all day". The kid replies without hesitation, "I tried to get here as fast as I could". The cop was laughing so hard he let the kid go….. — Russ Visit Alaska @ http://www.tannersacre.com <elmoemer…@webtv.net> wrote in message

news:21239-42C97387-913@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Did he toot his horn? > Toooooot toooooot!!!!!! > Elmo > (it’s funny) > http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile > http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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Smiling Wickedly,   Cody answered: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Senior citizen in Florida bought a brand new Mercedes convertible.  He took > off down the road, bringing it to 80 mph and enjoying the wind blowing > through what little hair he had left on his head. > "This is great," He thought as he roared down I-75. > He pushed the pedal to the metal even more. Then, he looked in his rear view > mirror and saw a highway patrol trooper behind him, blue lights flashing and > siren blaring.  "I can get away from him with no problem," thought the man, > as he tromped it some more and flew down the road at over 100 mph.  Then > 110…120 mph, he thought, "What am I doing?  I’m too old for this kind of > thing!" > He pulled over to the side of the road and waited for the trooper to catch > up with him.  The trooper pulled in behind the Mercedes and walked up to the > man. > "Sir," he said, looking at his watch, "my shift ends in 30 minutes and today > is Friday.  If you can give me a reason why you were speeding that I’ve > never heard before, I’ll let you go."  The man looked at the trooper and > said, "A few weeks ago my wife ran off with a Florida State trooper, and I > thought you were bringing her back." > The trooper replied, "Sir, have a nice day."

LOL!   Thanks Cody.  That WAS funny. — *..

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"Ear Disorder Person" <nevilemo…@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1119670315.948113.256800@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > Jesus has been done to death, innit.

Never met the guy. — "Are you going to torture him?" "What would you do?" "I’d torture him." –Dog Soldiers.

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In article <x24ve.12572$eM6….@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>, filthytr…@earthlink.net says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->"Your Name Here=Harvey" <k…@ing.notin.aus> wrote in message >news:d9gn5h$3q5$2@lust.ihug.co.nz… >> In article <Q2Nue.11791$eM6.5…@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>, >> filthytr…@earthlink.net says… >> When anyone mentions the word ‘lying’ they had better know what they >> are talking about. >> Christianity (likewise with Judaism and Islam) has to be the biggest >> lie that has been unleashed upon this world – and also the cause of >> so many problems (ie. wars and violence, and intolerance). >> So called Christianity truth – is all a lie. Jesus Christ is all a lie. >> The proceedure of Jesus Christ being a saviour is all a lie. >> The claim for/about God is all a lie too. >> Some people here think that the Jmmanuel material is all a joke — >> www.tjresearch.info >> but in reality the joke is on them, if they take christianity seriously. >> We have all been lied to – not only by religion, but likewise by >> governments [it's all political - about power and control]. and >> insitutions. >> Harvey >I’ve never thought the actual words of Jesus were anything but groovy >advice, but there’s not much in there to support the concept of the church, >or religious wars, or quite a lot of the things that people do in Jesus’ >name. >Jesus spoke in parables.  He taught with stories, and analogies.  Let it >grow like a mustard seed, etc. But for some reason if you suggest to most >Christians that the ‘Kingdom of Heaven’ is a metaphor, instead of a place in >the clouds we go to after we die they get all cranky like they missed thier >naps. >I’m not a Christian, but I think the perversion of good ideas is always >humorous. >-John

People often make a joke of that which they cannot understand or comprehend, preferring not to deal with ‘it’. There is a truth behind everything, for those willing to undertake the journey of using their imagination and logic. Motives (who benefits from what?) reveal the real truth, often. The real teachings of ‘Jesus’ is in the Talmud Jmmanuel text. www.tjresearch.info Christianity is a ‘cult’ – likewise most religions are. The Bible is not an accurate pieve of historical text / etc. It isn’t trustworthy, nor divine. Like Santa Claus, it is there for show. The truth is very startling and often unbelievable… Harvey

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Jesus has been done to death, innit. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -John Effty wrote: > "Your Name Here=Harvey" <k…@ing.notin.aus> wrote in message > news:d9gn5h$3q5$2@lust.ihug.co.nz… > > In article <Q2Nue.11791$eM6.5…@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>, > > filthytr…@earthlink.net says… > > When anyone mentions the word ‘lying’ they had better know what they > > are talking about. > > Christianity (likewise with Judaism and Islam) has to be the biggest > > lie that has been unleashed upon this world – and also the cause of > > so many problems (ie. wars and violence, and intolerance). > > So called Christianity truth – is all a lie. Jesus Christ is all a lie. > > The proceedure of Jesus Christ being a saviour is all a lie. > > The claim for/about God is all a lie too. > > Some people here think that the Jmmanuel material is all a joke — > > www.tjresearch.info > > but in reality the joke is on them, if they take christianity seriously. > > We have all been lied to – not only by religion, but likewise by > > governments [it's all political - about power and control]. and > > insitutions. > > Harvey > I’ve never thought the actual words of Jesus were anything but groovy > advice, but there’s not much in there to support the concept of the church, > or religious wars, or quite a lot of the things that people do in Jesus’ > name. > Jesus spoke in parables.  He taught with stories, and analogies.  Let it > grow like a mustard seed, etc. But for some reason if you suggest to most > Christians that the ‘Kingdom of Heaven’ is a metaphor, instead of a place in > the clouds we go to after we die they get all cranky like they missed thier > naps. > I’m not a Christian, but I think the perversion of good ideas is always > humorous. > -John

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"Your Name Here=Harvey" <k…@ing.notin.aus> wrote in message news:d9gn5h$3q5$2@lust.ihug.co.nz… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In article <Q2Nue.11791$eM6.5…@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>, > filthytr…@earthlink.net says… > When anyone mentions the word ‘lying’ they had better know what they > are talking about. > Christianity (likewise with Judaism and Islam) has to be the biggest > lie that has been unleashed upon this world – and also the cause of > so many problems (ie. wars and violence, and intolerance). > So called Christianity truth – is all a lie. Jesus Christ is all a lie. > The proceedure of Jesus Christ being a saviour is all a lie. > The claim for/about God is all a lie too. > Some people here think that the Jmmanuel material is all a joke — > www.tjresearch.info > but in reality the joke is on them, if they take christianity seriously. > We have all been lied to – not only by religion, but likewise by > governments [it's all political - about power and control]. and > insitutions. > Harvey

I’ve never thought the actual words of Jesus were anything but groovy advice, but there’s not much in there to support the concept of the church, or religious wars, or quite a lot of the things that people do in Jesus’ name. Jesus spoke in parables.  He taught with stories, and analogies.  Let it grow like a mustard seed, etc. But for some reason if you suggest to most Christians that the ‘Kingdom of Heaven’ is a metaphor, instead of a place in the clouds we go to after we die they get all cranky like they missed thier naps. I’m not a Christian, but I think the perversion of good ideas is always humorous. -John

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In article <Q2Nue.11791$eM6.5…@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>, filthytr…@earthlink.net says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->"pyotr filipivich" <ph…@mindspring.com> wrote in message >news:5c0nb1tdrvq2erlulod1k9n97ekinhf412@4ax.com… >> Let the record show that Gunner <gun…@lightspeed.net> wrote back on Sat, >> 18 Jun 2005 07:17:48 GMT in misc.survivalism : >>>On 17 Jun 2005 08:56:51 -0700, "Carlos" <carlosmach…@yahoo.com> >>>wrote: >>>>You guys seem so proud of your lying and your violence.  Ask Jesus for >>>>forgiveness, and change your miserable lives. >>>>Carlos >(8 bar) BLUES in E (for two vocalists) >tenor >"Sometimes I talk to Jesus  …and he says…" >bass – spoken >"look man, I’m really busy." >tenor >"Sometimes I talk to Jesus  …and he says…" >bass – spoken >"look man, I’m really busy." >tenor >"He says.." >bass >"I covered you on that sneeze last week.  Now quit yer whining!" >[Copyright Me and Jesus music MMV] >-John

When anyone mentions the word ‘lying’ they had better know what they are talking about. Christianity (likewise with Judaism and Islam) has to be the biggest lie that has been unleashed upon this world – and also the cause of so many problems (ie. wars and violence, and intolerance). So called Christianity truth – is all a lie. Jesus Christ is all a lie. The proceedure of Jesus Christ being a saviour is all a lie. The claim for/about God is all a lie too. Some people here think that the Jmmanuel material is all a joke — www.tjresearch.info but in reality the joke is on them, if they take christianity seriously. We have all been lied to – not only by religion, but likewise by governments [it's all political - about power and control]. and insitutions. Harvey

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"pyotr filipivich" <ph…@mindspring.com> wrote in message

news:5c0nb1tdrvq2erlulod1k9n97ekinhf412@4ax.com… > Let the record show that Gunner <gun…@lightspeed.net> wrote back on Sat, > 18 Jun 2005 07:17:48 GMT in misc.survivalism : >>On 17 Jun 2005 08:56:51 -0700, "Carlos" <carlosmach…@yahoo.com> >>wrote: >>>You guys seem so proud of your lying and your violence.  Ask Jesus for >>>forgiveness, and change your miserable lives. >>>Carlos

(8 bar) BLUES in E (for two vocalists) tenor "Sometimes I talk to Jesus  …and he says…" bass – spoken "look man, I’m really busy." tenor "Sometimes I talk to Jesus  …and he says…" bass – spoken "look man, I’m really busy." tenor "He says.." bass "I covered you on that sneeze last week.  Now quit yer whining!" [Copyright Me and Jesus music MMV] -John

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Kris Baker wrote And lo, Andrew Heenan didst speak in alt.www.webmaster,alt.www.marketing,alt.marketing.online.ebay: They are only ‘legit’ if they have subscribed … opted in to receive them. And if they’ve opted in, they will be unlikely to have you blocked. I used to think so, but actually working in "the biz" I’ve learned it’s not always the case.  We occasionally send out an email newsletter to our customers which no one specifically opted-in for. That’s from YOUR side; it’s spam from MY side.

That’s why we have deranged loonies, for balance. — Charles Sweeney http://CharlesSweeney.com

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And lo, Kris Baker didst speak in muchos newsgroups: And lo, Andrew Heenan didst speak in some places: They are only ‘legit’ if they have subscribed … opted in to receive   them. And if they’ve opted in, they will be unlikely to have you blocked. I used to think so, but actually working in "the biz" I’ve learned it’s   not always the case.  We occasionally send out an email newsletter to   our customers which no one specifically opted-in for. That’s from YOUR side; it’s spam from MY side.

If one of my emailings ever reaches your inbox, cupcake, please go ahead   and report me.  We have a list of customers, all of whom have invested   significant amounts[1] of money in our equipment.  No one has begrudged us   a simple newsletter, for updates and new product news, yet. Grey [1] Top-of-the-line ATI graphics card?  Hah, that’s kid-stuff. — The technical axiom that nothing is impossible sinisterly implies the   pitfall corollary that nothing is ridiculous. – http://www.greywyvern.com/ringmaker – Orca Ringmaker: Host a web ring    from your website!

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Do you have any idea why motions to take action against spam take so long  and mutate so much while being voted on in various countries?   It’s not  because they don’t *want* to take action.  Rather it’s because it’s *not*  as cut-and-dry as you’d like to believe.

The problem is getting a single definition of "spam." Oh, in *most* cases you’re correct.  But cold-calls, and *targetted*   cold-emails, still bring a lot of small businesses livelyhood which they  couldn’t get otherwise.

That’s true too. I myself have sent a number of people unsolicited emails to potential   customers, offering to redevelop their website.  Most of them politely   decline.  According to your logic, that was me spamming.

Mmmm – were they one-to-one emails? The most commonly accepted definition I’ve seen is "unsolicited" + "bulk". One-to-one unsolicited emails aren’t spam, by that definition. — Coming to you from Southern California’s High Desert, where the temperatures are as high as the gas prices! / 888.480.4NET (4638) "Life’s like an hourglass glued to the table"   –Anna Nalick, "Breathe"

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And lo, JC Dill didst speak in some alts: Anytime you send marketing emails to an address that was not confirmed by the subscriber as desiring said emails, you ARE spamming.

Do you have any idea why motions to take action against spam take so long   and mutate so much while being voted on in various countries?  It’s not   because they don’t *want* to take action.  Rather it’s because it’s *not*   as cut-and-dry as you’d like to believe. Oh, in *most* cases you’re correct.  But cold-calls, and *targetted*   cold-emails, still bring a lot of small businesses livelyhood which they   couldn’t get otherwise. I myself have sent a number of people unsolicited emails to potential   customers, offering to redevelop their website.  Most of them politely   decline.  According to your logic, that was me spamming. You’d actually be right in more cases if you added "bulk" to your list of   criteria. Grey — The technical axiom that nothing is impossible sinisterly implies the   pitfall corollary that nothing is ridiculous. – http://www.greywyvern.com/ringmaker – Orca Ringmaker: Host a web ring    from your website!

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And lo, Charles Sweeney didst speak in a bunch of newsgroups: Kris Baker wrote Crikey, the competition is intense in here for the most-dense-poster   award.

Viper and Karim both seem to be away, so it truly *is* a wide open field. Grey

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He’s an old time regular here (alt.www.webmaster). If Ship says they are legitimate recipients, then they will be just that. Thanks for the support, Matt! Sometimes people can be *stupidly* cynical and fail to answer questions on the merits of the question and nobody gets anywhere!

Why are you posting this to alt.marketing.online.ebay?  This isn’t about eBay.  It’s off topic for this newsgroup. If you want to ask questions about mail server rate limiting and spam, I suggest you find groups that discuss those topics, instead of posting on a group that discusses eBay.  One group where this is on-topic is a mailing list called spam-l.  NOTE:  Unless your list is confirmed opt-in, you will not be given ANY assistance on spam-l. Confirmed opt-in means that your subscribers must confirm via email that they have elected to receive mail from your list, before you "add" them to the list or send them any "marketing" emails.  Anytime you send marketing emails to an address that was not confirmed by the subscriber as desiring said emails, you ARE spamming. jc

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Kris Baker wrote – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi We keep getting caught by the spam filters on the larger mailservers when we market to our own legit customers! If your customers want to be on your mailing lists, remind them when they sign up for the list that they should whitelist you in their spam filter. These aren’t sign-ups; he *purchased* this names.

Crikey, the competition is intense in here for the most-dense-poster award. — Charles Sweeney http://CharlesSweeney.com

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And lo, Andrew Heenan didst speak in alt.www.webmaster,alt.www.marketing,alt.marketing.online.ebay: They are only ‘legit’ if they have subscribed … opted in to receive them. And if they’ve opted in, they will be unlikely to have you blocked. I used to think so, but actually working in "the biz" I’ve learned it’s not always the case.  We occasionally send out an email newsletter to our customers which no one specifically opted-in for.

That’s from YOUR side; it’s spam from MY side.

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ship wrote We have about 30,000 legitimate users on our database.

Yum yum! — Charles Sweeney http://CharlesSweeney.com

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bp wrote Hi We keep getting caught by the spam filters on the larger mailservers when we market to our own legit customers! If your customers want to be on your mailing lists, remind them when they sign up for the list that they should whitelist you in their spam filter.

Or remind them not to use filters that block legitimate mail. — Charles Sweeney http://CharlesSweeney.com

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And lo, Andrew Heenan didst speak in   alt.www.webmaster,alt.www.marketing,alt.marketing.online.ebay: They are only ‘legit’ if they have subscribed … opted in to receive   them. And if they’ve opted in, they will be unlikely to have you blocked.

I used to think so, but actually working in "the biz" I’ve learned it’s   not always the case.  We occasionally send out an email newsletter to our   customers which no one specifically opted-in for. However, all of our customers on the email list have previously purchased   some of our not-fscking-cheap electronics, and what we email them is news   of newly released products and upgrades they can take advantage of.  There   are close to 80 people on my main list, and I’ve sent out a number of   "waves", one even with a 400kB PDF attachment![1] No complaints yet.  However, I am *quite* sure our domain is on many of   their whitelists. Grey [1] I *did* notify our host before doing this — The technical axiom that nothing is impossible sinisterly implies the   pitfall corollary that nothing is ridiculous. – http://www.greywyvern.com/ringmaker – Orca Ringmaker: Host a web ring    from your website!

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Hi We keep getting caught by the spam filters on the larger mailservers when we market to our own legit customers! If your customers want to be on your mailing lists, remind them when they sign up for the list that they should whitelist you in their spam filter.

These aren’t sign-ups; he *purchased* this names. Kris

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ship wrote – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – He’s an old time regular here (alt.www.webmaster). If Ship says they are legitimate recipients, then they will be just that. Thanks for the support, Matt! Sometimes people can be *stupidly* cynical and fail to answer questions on the merits of the question and nobody gets anywhere! Okay here’s the deal. We have about 30,000 legitimate users on our database.  It cost us a *lot* of money to acquire them through legitimate marketing channels (much of it printed media, fwiw), so we are extremely careful about how and when we contact them. We dice and slice the database and send messages that are often pretty much hand-crafted to users – (depending upon what they have expressed an interest in before.) Our emails are pretty much like hand crafted letters that we write to our customers. We try to avoid some of the more obvious trigger words much as "free" and "unsubscribe" [Anyone know of a good up-to-date, comprehensive list, incidentally. Or better yet an online tool one can use to test copy for filtered words...?] HOWEVER what we have previously found is that if we send out emails TOO FAST, then the big domain mailservers (e.g. AOL, Hotmail, yahoo etc) may assume that we are spamming them. So we not trickle the emails out… but I am suspicous that we are still sending them out too fast. As an aside we recently seem to have have discovered that including *any* images seems to lower the response rates. And again our suspicion is that our mail is being filtered our as spam somewhere along the line! As you can see below the *specific* problem today was that our own internal emails have been intercepted by "http://spamcop.net/". And yes I have been trying to contact our ISP to find out more. HOWEVER I didnt ask about our specific problems of today, I asked if there were any "industry norms" of how fast to send out emails etc, that we would be well advised to stick to so as to avoid similar problems in future. Obviously I *could* contact www.spamcop.net too, but I wanted to know what you guys thought that the current state of play is. So… no we are NOT sending out unsolicited emails – and YES our users have explicitly requested to get the information from us on a regular basis. So finally… how fast *should* we be sending out our emails?! with thanks Ship P.S. Are any of you guys also using  btconnect.com  (like us) ? They are ABSOLUTELY AWEFUL in our experience. Many emails not arriving for hours and hours, sometimes days. But they have tied us into a 12 month contract from which they wont let us escape without a punishing financial penalty! I wouldnt recommend them to my worst enemy! Okay, yes I would but only my WORST enemy… P.P.S. here are the bounces of this morning for what they are worth. And dont look too closely because I have stripped out any identifying information! —–Original Message—– Sent: 22 June 2005 13:16 http://spamcop.net/ (from mill.xxx-edited-out-xxx.co.uk) (BST) from host811-130-161-20.in-addrr.btopenworld.com [811.130.161.20]    —– The following addresses had permanent delivery errors —– Message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; c2bt1homr03.btconnect.com X-Message-Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 553 5.3.0 Rejected – SPAM from 194.73.173.211 – see http://spamcop.net/ Action: failed Status: 5.1.3 Remote-MTA: DNS; mill.xxx-edited-out-xxx.co.uk Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 553 5.3.0 Rejected – SPAM from 194.73.73.211 – see http://spamcop.net/

A real-life example of how the futile "fight" against spam, achieves nothing other than fucking up innocent users. — Charles Sweeney http://CharlesSweeney.com

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Hi We keep getting caught by the spam filters on the larger mailservers when we market to our own legit customers!

If your customers want to be on your mailing lists, remind them when they sign up for the list that they should whitelist you in their spam filter.

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@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: We keep getting caught by the spam filters on the larger mailservers when we market to our own legit customers!

Sorry. Ive run ISP servers including mailservers. I dont think this is a problem of innocence. We always had alternatives available such as elists or off-hour queues. If you are overloading their server then do one of your own. Any old computer in the closet will work. Gandalf  Parker

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He’s an old time regular here (alt.www.webmaster). If Ship says they are legitimate recipients, then they will be just that.

Thanks for the support, Matt! Sometimes people can be *stupidly* cynical and fail to answer questions on the merits of the question and nobody gets anywhere! Okay here’s the deal. We have about 30,000 legitimate users on our database.  It cost us a *lot* of money to acquire them through legitimate marketing channels (much of it printed media, fwiw), so we are extremely careful about how and when we contact them. We dice and slice the database and send messages that are often pretty much hand-crafted to users – (depending upon what they have expressed an interest in before.) Our emails are pretty much like hand crafted letters that we write to our customers. We try to avoid some of the more obvious trigger words much as "free" and "unsubscribe" [Anyone know of a good up-to-date, comprehensive list, incidentally. Or better yet an online tool one can use to test copy for filtered words...?] HOWEVER what we have previously found is that if we send out emails TOO FAST, then the big domain mailservers (e.g. AOL, Hotmail, yahoo etc) may assume that we are spamming them. So we not trickle the emails out… but I am suspicous that we are still sending them out too fast. As an aside we recently seem to have have discovered that including *any* images seems to lower the response rates. And again our suspicion is that our mail is being filtered our as spam somewhere along the line! As you can see below the *specific* problem today was that our own internal emails have been intercepted by "http://spamcop.net/". And yes I have been trying to contact our ISP to find out more. HOWEVER I didnt ask about our specific problems of today, I asked if there were any "industry norms" of how fast to send out emails etc, that we would be well advised to stick to so as to avoid similar problems in future. Obviously I *could* contact www.spamcop.net too, but I wanted to know what you guys thought that the current state of play is. So… no we are NOT sending out unsolicited emails – and YES our users have explicitly requested to get the information from us on a regular basis. So finally… how fast *should* we be sending out our emails?! with thanks Ship P.S. Are any of you guys also using  btconnect.com  (like us) ? They are ABSOLUTELY AWEFUL in our experience. Many emails not arriving for hours and hours, sometimes days. But they have tied us into a 12 month contract from which they wont let us escape without a punishing financial penalty! I wouldnt recommend them to my worst enemy! Okay, yes I would but only my WORST enemy… P.P.S. here are the bounces of this morning for what they are worth. And dont look too closely because I have stripped out any identifying information! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ——Original Message—– Sent: 22 June 2005 13:16 http://spamcop.net/ (from mill.xxx-edited-out-xxx.co.uk) (BST) from host811-130-161-20.in-addrr.btopenworld.com [811.130.161.20]    —– The following addresses had permanent delivery errors —– Message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; c2bt1homr03.btconnect.com X-Message-Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 553 5.3.0 Rejected – SPAM from 194.73.173.211 – see http://spamcop.net/ Action: failed Status: 5.1.3 Remote-MTA: DNS; mill.xxx-edited-out-xxx.co.uk Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 553 5.3.0 Rejected – SPAM from 194.73.73.211 – see http://spamcop.net/

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You are a fucking arse.  Ship is a regular in AWW, and good bloke. — Charles Sweeney http://CharlesSweeney.com

I’ve no idea whether Ship is a good bloke or otherwise, but until I hear anything different, I’ll believe his post and wont jump to any conclusions. I’d echo William: we need to know more… It sounds like it is the outgoing servers that are the problem – I dont see how many different recipient servers could form a view on his email rate. In which case, a call to his hosting company is in order. If the problem lies with the destination or intermediate servers, then this problem is likely to be something else, in which case we need to know about what he is sending and how… Chris

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muttered You are a fucking arse.  Ship is a regular in AWW, and good bloke. — Charles Sweeney http://CharlesSweeney.com I’ve no idea whether Ship is a good bloke or otherwise, but until I hear anything different, I’ll believe his post and wont jump to any conclusions.

He’s an old time regular here (alt.www.webmaster). If Ship says they are legitimate recipients, then they will be just that. Which leads me to guess the "spam filters" are intermediate (perhaps at AOL or Road Runner for example) and the intended recipients are not receiving the email. Matt — Affordable budget advertising available. Banner ads, skyscrapers, rectangles and half-pages. Please email to discuss your requirements.

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something like: We keep getting caught by the spam filters on the larger mailservers when we market to our own legit customers! I think it may be because we are sending out emails too fast. – Does anyone know what are the industry norms? – How many emails per hour is one allowed to send from one IP number before a mail-server decides to attack all your mail?!

I’m not aware of any industry norms; it depends on the server configuration.  However, I’m sure the larger, older mailing lists send out comparable volumes, so I doubt the volume is the issue.  You’d need to be more specific about the problem to get more specific answers–are your messages going into spam folders and never being read?  Are they being bounced back with an error message (and if so, what message)?  Does the welcome message to subscribers include a reminder that they will need to whitelist your mailing list to ensure it is not caught by bulk mail filters? -Bertha — As with the Christian religion, the worst advertisement for Socialism is its adherents.        – George Orwell, the Road to Wigan Pier

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi We keep getting caught by the spam filters on the larger mailservers when we market to our own legit customers! I think it may be because we are sending out emails too fast. – Does anyone know what are the industry norms? – How many emails per hour is one allowed to send from one IP number before a mail-server decides to attack all your mail?! with thanks Ship Shiperton Henethe

Post your request over at news.admin.net-abuse.email.  The group is populated with hundreds of sys admins and abuse-desk managers, and I’m just *ever* so sure they’ll be happy to give you advice.  Lots of it, probably. — Ty Who is mostly just a slightly skewed Donna Reed A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government. –Edward Abbey

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi We keep getting caught by the spam filters on the larger mailservers when we market to our own legit customers! I think it may be because we are sending out emails too fast. – Does anyone know what are the industry norms? – How many emails per hour is one allowed to send from one IP number before a mail-server decides to attack all your mail?! with thanks Ship Shiperton Henethe

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Andrew Heenan wrote – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "ship" wrote … We keep getting caught by the spam filters on the larger mailservers when we market to our own legit customers! I think it may be because we are sending out emails too fast. – Does anyone know what are the industry norms? – How many emails per hour is one allowed to send from one IP number before a mail-server decides to attack all your mail?! They are only ‘legit’ if they have subscribed … opted in to receive them. And if they’ve opted in, they will be unlikely to have you blocked. If you are sending ‘by the hour’ It’s almost certainly spam. If you send spam, many will trigger not just filters, but spam reports; manual or robot. Once there’s been enough reports, then all future mail will be filtered straight to spam folders. So even those who opted in will be denied a spammer’s newletter, because of the complaints. Spam filters are getting better by the week – and there’s so many, using so many different technologies, that the best answer is the simplest. Don’t spam.

You are a fucking arse.  Ship is a regular in AWW, and good bloke. — Charles Sweeney http://CharlesSweeney.com

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Hi We keep getting caught by the spam filters on the larger mailservers when we market to our own legit customers! I think it may be because we are sending out emails too fast. – Does anyone know what are the industry norms? – How many emails per hour is one allowed to send from one IP number before a mail-server decides to attack all your mail?! with thanks Ship Shiperton Henethe

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Writing in    From the safety of the http://groups.google.com cafeteria Hi

How do you do? We keep getting caught by the spam filters on the larger mailservers when we market to our own legit customers!

Please specify – is this your own/hosts/ISPs mail server or the target   mail server that is causing the issue? I think it may be because we are sending out emails too fast. – Does anyone know what are the industry norms? – How many emails per hour is one allowed to send from one IP number before a mail-server decides to attack all your mail?!

Not sure there is a ‘norm’ – each mail server is (or should be) configured   according to the whims^w specification of the owner. I use one that is configured for a max of 100 simultaneous connections    from any one account and another that is configured for double that.  I’ve   heard of mail servers that pre-allocate a set number of outgoing mails per   day. In reality I suspect you should have this conversation with the SysAdmin   responsible for your mail server. — William Tasso

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"ship" wrote … We keep getting caught by the spam filters on the larger mailservers when we market to our own legit customers! I think it may be because we are sending out emails too fast. – Does anyone know what are the industry norms? – How many emails per hour is one allowed to send from one IP number before a mail-server decides to attack all your mail?!

They are only ‘legit’ if they have subscribed … opted in to receive them. And if they’ve opted in, they will be unlikely to have you blocked. If you are sending ‘by the hour’ It’s almost certainly spam. If you send spam, many will trigger not just filters, but spam reports; manual or robot. Once there’s been enough reports, then all future mail will be filtered straight to spam folders. So even those who opted in will be denied a spammer’s newletter, because of the complaints. Spam filters are getting better by the week – and there’s so many, using so many different technologies, that the best answer is the simplest. Don’t spam. — Andrew http://www.weirdity/ebay/

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