Christianity QA

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Hey psycho candy (the name speaks for itself)

You don’t even have a clue what the name really means huh, medicine man? Is that all you could say?  I expected something to refute my claim,

You can’t refute medical science and you want others to refute your non-refute? Yes, please LOL more so your Delusion will be complete.

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Hey psycho candy (the name speaks for itself) Is that all you could say?  I expected something to refute my claim, unfortunately, that is not what I’m expecting. Say something more constructive lah?  Otherwise, who is going to listen to your long mumbling story. You are just like a little kitten pissing around here and there!  LOL..LOL… In chinese interpretation on someone (like you) who like to mumble is dammn ‘unfortunate’ in their life. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Take for example, when some older people got their ‘half-side’ (of the face’s features) slanted, well, to a medical science practitioner, its alright to him, cause, he is still surviving as per normal. To us, as holistic physician, we interpret diferently. In fact, this sort of ‘old sickness’, medical science is not even aware of or don’t even have a medical name for it on this sort old sickness. Medical science does have a name though for the kind of sickness you’re suffering from. It’s called Delusion. It is categorised into different grades, and it would seem that yours has reached a rather advanced stage. Unfortunately, medical science, being totally inept, cannot heal your advanced stage of Delusion. All it knows is that Delusion can be an infectious disease, and strongly advises that those not wishing to get infected keep miles away from you. Doctors know that bacteria mutate all the time, and that they can therefore become resistant to antibiotics. That’s why people are urged by doctors to always finish a course of antibiotics, for example. Are you saying that, all those who are facing antibiotic resistant, this is the bunch of people who didn’t ‘finish’ their full course of prescribed antibiotic? Not exactly right, my fren My fren, the whole episode boil down to the ignorance by medical science in prescribing antibiotics. This is a classic sympton of Delusion. The sufferer cannot support his convictions with anything other than constant repitition of his convictions. Why don’t you tell those teenage, when facing an acme problem, to stop The acme of Delusion is reached when the sufferer furthermore continues unabated to believe that a condition such as "acme" can be a problem. consumming those lighter grade antibiotic or infants when having a simple cough to stop taking those ‘liquid antibiotic’ in syrup form. My god, what so you make up from these so-called Medical Authorities allowing people to be exposed to antibiotic at such a young age. These Medical Authority simply not worth their salt, calling themselves as a medical regulator. The final confirmation test for the presence of an advanced stage of Delusion is that the sufferer is no longer capable of responding to requests to prove his convictions in other ways than faulty rhetoric.

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Take for example, when some older people got their ‘half-side’ (of the face’s features) slanted, well, to a medical science practitioner, its alright to him, cause, he is still surviving as per normal. To us, as holistic physician, we interpret diferently. In fact, this sort of ‘old sickness’, medical science is not even aware of or don’t even have a medical name for it on this sort old sickness.

Medical science does have a name though for the kind of sickness you’re suffering from. It’s called Delusion. It is categorised into different grades, and it would seem that yours has reached a rather advanced stage. Unfortunately, medical science, being totally inept, cannot heal your advanced stage of Delusion. All it knows is that Delusion can be an infectious disease, and strongly advises that those not wishing to get infected keep miles away from you. Doctors know that bacteria mutate all the time, and that they can therefore become resistant to antibiotics. That’s why people are urged by doctors to always finish a course of antibiotics, for example. Are you saying that, all those who are facing antibiotic resistant, this is the bunch of people who didn’t ‘finish’ their full course of prescribed antibiotic? Not exactly right, my fren My fren, the whole episode boil down to the ignorance by medical science in prescribing antibiotics.

This is a classic sympton of Delusion. The sufferer cannot support his convictions with anything other than constant repitition of his convictions. Why don’t you tell those teenage, when facing an acme problem, to stop

The acme of Delusion is reached when the sufferer furthermore continues unabated to believe that a condition such as "acme" can be a problem. consumming those lighter grade antibiotic or infants when having a simple cough to stop taking those ‘liquid antibiotic’ in syrup form. My god, what so you make up from these so-called Medical Authorities allowing people to be exposed to antibiotic at such a young age. These Medical Authority simply not worth their salt, calling themselves as a medical regulator.

The final confirmation test for the presence of an advanced stage of Delusion is that the sufferer is no longer capable of responding to requests to prove his convictions in other ways than faulty rhetoric.

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I have another question: if, as you say, medical science is wrong and you are right, why don’t you prove it to the world? Go cure an AIDS patient. Go and make a cancerous tumour disappear. Make sure the patients can be tested physically along the way to verify your results, e.g, through blood tests, biopsies, MRI scans. When the patient has been verified to be cured, you can rest assured that every medical journal will be wanting to publish your treatment. You would then have proved that you were right. You see, this is the way that medical science proves itself too. It doesn’t resort to bashing other forms of healing.

wah so nice to have psycho*candy involved now…quick lah show your fangs and claws and don’t use your slow mo style here lah! okie okie i won’t stop uncle danny from his normal roadshow at chinatown banging gongs and asking his tudi to hit him with bamboo sticks and poking swords at his neck..and then peddling his medicine – a cure all for all things no medical science can achieve…singapore’s best kept secret..

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So, are you saying that medical science totally understood on how these drug (antibiotics) work and its side effects? You see, the nice thing about people who practise medical science is that they, unlike you, do not claim to have total knowledge and understanding of everything. What they know, they tell. What they understand, they explain. What they expect, they warn.

Are you so sure that, medical science has the ’standard’ or in the position to tell all?  They (MS) only know how to tell the physical side of it. Take for example, when some older people got their ‘half-side’ (of the face’s features) slanted, well, to a medical science practitioner, its alright to him, cause, he is still surviving as per normal. To us, as holistic physician, we interpret diferently. In fact, this sort of ‘old sickness’, medical science is not even aware of or don’t even have a medical name for it on this sort old sickness.  Doctors know that bacteria mutate all the time, and that they can therefore become resistant to antibiotics. That’s why people are urged by doctors to always finish a course of antibiotics, for example.

Are you saying that, all those who are facing antibiotic resistant, this is the bunch of people who didn’t ‘finish’ their full course of prescribed antibiotic? Not exactly right, my fren My fren, the whole episode boil down to the ignorance by medical science in prescribing antibiotics.  That’s also why some doctors make it a policy not to prescribe antibiotics unless it is a serious situation.

Why don’t you tell those teenage, when facing an acme problem, to stop consumming those lighter grade antibiotic or infants when having a simple cough to stop taking those ‘liquid antibiotic’ in syrup form. My god, what so you make up from these so-called Medical Authorities allowing people to be exposed to antibiotic at such a young age. These Medical Authority simply not worth their salt, calling themselves as a medical regulator. Danny yang  Now, of course there are some doctors who – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – would do it for every slight cough. The difference here lies in the quality of the doctor. I would suggest that you stop using this example to prove whatever you’re trying to prove, because it just isn’t proving anything. How you explain when, medical science look at an organ is an organ serving part of a body functioning system, whereas, we as alternative healer (holistic) we look at a functioning body from a different angle ie. the function of the heart run parallel to the Solar’s Sun and the rest of the major organs run parallel to the 9 Major orbiting planets? With this sort of, as you said a ‘mumbo jumbo’ kind of understanding on a human functioning body (running parallel to our existing Solar System), you tell me, how to put that in scientific term? I’m not demanding that you put it in scientific terms. I’m merely asking for a clear *explanation*. And now that you have finally said something about your medicine, I have a question: what if tomorrow, scientists discovered that there were actually more planets, and that planets weren’t orbiting around the sun at all. What happens to your medicine? As for all that whining about antibiotics, you will be pleased to know that in some countries, doctors indeed use them sparingly. That’s a question of medical culture, Its not about medical culture, its about medical ignorance, greed and fraud! Same as in religion, Islam and christianity (in actual fact, both of these religions share similiar idealogy ie. ‘Islam is the way’ or ‘Jesus is the way’ OR Jesus is also known as ‘Isa’, in the Koran same as Moses is known as Musa)they are in fact should be categorised as ‘CULT’ group. Just that, they (these 2 so-called religions) had been taught and embraced by people for such a long time, that, society accepted these 2 cult group as religion. Don’t believe, check it out on what is the different between a cult and a religion!  Then, we can discuss further!! Sorry, for me there is no difference between a religion and a cult. Your point being? I have another question: if, as you say, medical science is wrong and you are right, why don’t you prove it to the world? Go cure an AIDS patient. Go and make a cancerous tumour disappear. Make sure the patients can be tested physically along the way to verify your results, e.g, through blood tests, biopsies, MRI scans. When the patient has been verified to be cured, you can rest assured that every medical journal will be wanting to publish your treatment. You would then have proved that you were right. You see, this is the way that medical science proves itself too. It doesn’t resort to bashing other forms of healing.

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I have another question: if, as you say, medical science is wrong and you are right, why don’t you prove it to the world? Go cure an AIDS patient. Go and make a cancerous tumour disappear. Make sure the patients can be tested physically along the way to verify your results, e.g, through blood tests, biopsies, MRI scans. When the patient has been verified to be cured, you can rest assured that every medical journal will be wanting to publish your treatment. You would then have proved that you were right. You see, this is the way that medical science proves itself too. It doesn’t resort to bashing other forms of healing.

Do either and medicine will ignore you. Anth

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You see, what makes herbals credible is they are "certified" by the great "creator", "nature", "God" or whatever you acccept as the higher force. Which rather begs the question of whose "certificates" are to be believed, since some herbs (monks hood, for instance) are deadly and others (parsley) have negligible medicinal effect.

For your info, in medicinal term, poisoneous herb is also, fall under hebal category, The diferent on their role is, intead of ‘healing’ they ‘kill’. Have you come across a saying ‘it takes a poison to kills a poison’. This sort of healing technic is practice by capable physician worldwide! my fren.. Take for example, in modern medical science, the usage of antibiotic is a classic case of this method. In actual fact, antibiotic is being manufactured out from those poisoneous ‘road side’ fungi (of course, under laboratory condition), where their ‘toxin’ is being extracted out to suit human consumption. Danny Yang An Asian Holsitic Physician cum Herbalist

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Guru Yang, Before you decide to place your advertisement again in this newsgroup, you could perhaps consider telling what you *do* know about "mankind’s sickness" instead of simply boasting that medical science doesn’t know anything about it. You see, what makes medical science credible is that it explains what it knows. All medicine comes with an information sheet that lists exactly what the medicine contains, how it works, side effects, etc. What makes your holistic mumbo jumbo simply mumbo jumbo is that you do not, and probably cannot, even explain your "science" in any clear terms. You see, what makes herbals credible is they are "certified" by the great "creator", "nature", "God" or whatever you acccept as the higher force.

hahahaha.  They don’t come with usage labels; it’s only idiots like Spammin’ Dave who conclude that because they are "natural" they must be good. The arrogance and "practice" of medical science must be a grand disappointment to our "creator".

No, lying (the kind you indulge in shamelessly) is the real disappointment. Doing harm to others is against the laws of nature.

Right — that’s why carnivores never eat other animals.  It’d be against the laws of nature to kill them. The laws of nature take precedence and have power over the manmade laws of science. So, while these debates may be important to you, in reality, they are pointless and are based on profound misunderstanding.

As Rich pointed out, the only misunderstanding here is yours of the nature of science.   — David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net      These are my opinions only, but they’re almost always correct.        "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants            were standing on my shoulders."  (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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So, are you saying that medical science totally understood on how these drug (antibiotics) work and its side effects?

You see, the nice thing about people who practise medical science is that they, unlike you, do not claim to have total knowledge and understanding of everything. What they know, they tell. What they understand, they explain. What they expect, they warn. Doctors know that bacteria mutate all the time, and that they can therefore become resistant to antibiotics. That’s why people are urged by doctors to always finish a course of antibiotics, for example. That’s also why some doctors make it a policy not to prescribe antibiotics unless it is a serious situation. Now, of course there are some doctors who would do it for every slight cough. The difference here lies in the quality of the doctor. I would suggest that you stop using this example to prove whatever you’re trying to prove, because it just isn’t proving anything. How you explain when, medical science look at an organ is an organ serving part of a body functioning system, whereas, we as alternative healer (holistic) we look at a functioning body from a different angle ie. the function of the heart run parallel to the Solar’s Sun and the rest of the major organs run parallel to the 9 Major orbiting planets? With this sort of, as you said a ‘mumbo jumbo’ kind of understanding on a human functioning body (running parallel to our existing Solar System), you tell me, how to put that in scientific term?

I’m not demanding that you put it in scientific terms. I’m merely asking for a clear *explanation*. And now that you have finally said something about your medicine, I have a question: what if tomorrow, scientists discovered that there were actually more planets, and that planets weren’t orbiting around the sun at all. What happens to your medicine? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As for all that whining about antibiotics, you will be pleased to know that in some countries, doctors indeed use them sparingly. That’s a question of medical culture, Its not about medical culture, its about medical ignorance, greed and fraud! Same as in religion, Islam and christianity (in actual fact, both of these religions share similiar idealogy ie. ‘Islam is the way’ or ‘Jesus is the way’ OR Jesus is also known as ‘Isa’, in the Koran same as Moses is known as Musa)they are in fact should be categorised as ‘CULT’ group. Just that, they (these 2 so-called religions) had been taught and embraced by people for such a long time, that, society accepted these 2 cult group as religion. Don’t believe, check it out on what is the different between a cult and a religion!  Then, we can discuss further!!

Sorry, for me there is no difference between a religion and a cult. Your point being? I have another question: if, as you say, medical science is wrong and you are right, why don’t you prove it to the world? Go cure an AIDS patient. Go and make a cancerous tumour disappear. Make sure the patients can be tested physically along the way to verify your results, e.g, through blood tests, biopsies, MRI scans. When the patient has been verified to be cured, you can rest assured that every medical journal will be wanting to publish your treatment. You would then have proved that you were right. You see, this is the way that medical science proves itself too. It doesn’t resort to bashing other forms of healing.

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Guru Yang, Before you decide to place your advertisement again in this newsgroup, you could perhaps consider telling what you *do* know about "mankind’s sickness" instead of simply boasting that medical science doesn’t know anything about it. You see, what makes medical science credible is that it explains what it knows. All medicine comes with an information sheet that lists exactly what the medicine contains, how it works, side effects, etc.

Side effects!!!  Ha  HA  HA Yes medical science knows, from the physical point of view, that antibiotic ‘anything’ that cross its path. Who doesn’t know its side effect, that by, taking too much antibiotics thins one’s blood’s red cell, lethargic, create pancratic problem, chances of impotancy and so on.. How about the recent ‘antibiotic resistant’cases? This is the area where medical science doesn’t know what they are indulging with by playing around with those ‘poisoneous fungus’. The actual problem is, medical science doesn’t have the knowledge in understanding the ‘characteristic’ (its natural role in serving mankind’s sickness) on these fungus families, once consummed into a ‘warm blooded’ human body. So, are you saying that medical science totally understood on how these drug (antibiotics) work and its side effects? What makes your holistic mumbo jumbo simply mumbo jumbo is that you do not, and probably cannot, even explain your "science" in any clear terms.

How you explain when, medical science look at an organ is an organ serving part of a body functioning system, whereas, we as alternative healer (holistic) we look at a functioning body from a different angle ie. the function of the heart run parallel to the Solar’s Sun and the rest of the major organs run parallel to the 9 Major orbiting planets? With this sort of, as you said a ‘mumbo jumbo’ kind of understanding on a human functioning body (running parallel to our existing Solar System), you tell me, how to put that in scientific term? As for all that whining about antibiotics, you will be pleased to know that in some countries, doctors indeed use them sparingly. That’s a question of medical culture,

Its not about medical culture, its about medical ignorance, greed and fraud! Same as in religion, Islam and christianity (in actual fact, both of these religions share similiar idealogy ie. ‘Islam is the way’ or ‘Jesus is the way’ OR Jesus is also known as ‘Isa’, in the Koran same as Moses is known as Musa)they are in fact should be categorised as ‘CULT’ group. Just that, they (these 2 so-called religions) had been taught and embraced by people for such a long time, that, society accepted these 2 cult group as religion. Don’t believe, check it out on what is the different between a cult and a religion!  Then, we can discuss further!! Same as antibiotics, they had done well on the surface, by getting the job done, very effective indeed. For a layperson, well, its a very good medicine, but, the danger is hidden below ready to explode, in time to come!!  not of whether medical science understands the workings of poisonous fungi.

Medical science ignorance (on its herbal characteristic) on using antibiotic is a short-cut way to treat infectious sickness. Other than that, what is there for medical science to come out with to treat infectious sicknesses? Hey, I am not totally condammed the usage of antibiotic (by MS), but, it must not be used at random, even on very minor illness ie. an acme problem. Have a nice day!!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Its true, the understanding on mankind’s sickness ie. on their cameabout, medical science and TCM know ‘nuts’ about it. Those simple sicknesses in making ie. sore throat, cold sweat, sickly feeling, night coughing and so on, don’t evem have medicine or available to treat it, let alone, those deadly virus derived modern-days sicknesses ie. hepatitis, west nile virus (a airborne virus category), aids and so on… [rest of bull shit snipped]

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You see, what makes herbals credible is they are "certified" by the great "creator", "nature", "God" or whatever you acccept as the higher force.

Which rather begs the question of whose "certificates" are to be believed, since some herbs (monks hood, for instance) are deadly and others (parsley) have negligible medicinal effect. — | "Really, I’m not out to destroy Microsoft. That will just be a | | completely unintentional side effect. " — Linus Torvalds      |

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Its true, the understanding on mankind’s sickness ie. on their cameabout, medical science and TCM know ‘nuts’ about it. Those simple sicknesses in making ie. sore throat, cold sweat, sickly feeling, night coughing and so on, don’t evem have medicine or available to treat it, let alone, those deadly virus derived modern-days sicknesses ie. hepatitis, west nile virus (a airborne virus category), aids and so on… Of course, with the help from modern technology, medical science has come this far in providing a kind of ‘very direct treatment’ on those ‘old fashion’ sickness ie. cancer, sore throat and so on, that’s all, withour really understood on these old fashion sicknesses cameabout. Their easy way out in treating these old fashion sicknesses is thru applying this physician’s concept of ‘good germ killing bad germ’ such as, the use on those fungus derived antibiotics. Unfortunately, without the basic understanding (ie. its herbal role in serving mankind) on those ‘poisoneous fungus’(in medical term, the word ‘poisoneous’ is also, considered as ‘medicinal’, cause, their role as poisoneous is to ‘kill’ and not to heal) used in manufacturing antibiotics, over a long term usage, it has contributed to the recent emergence of ‘antibiotic resistant’. Medical science is so ignorant on the use of those fungus derived antibiotics as also, a kind of ‘easy way out’ in getting a fast cure for their patient, they don’s bother to find other substitutes to replace antibiotic in treating or ‘cleansing’ patient’s impurities, on their body functioning system. Beside, this claim by me, accusing medical science’s ignorance by not taking the effort in understanding those poisoneous fungus’s medicinal role in serving mankind’s sicknesses that contributed to severe consequences ie. antibiotic resistant, I am not totally implying that, antibiotic is that bad. What I am saying is, antibiotic as good poison should only be used when necessary and not to be used at random. It shouldn’t be used to treat even a minor problem such as, in treating a mild acme problem, an easy way out, by exposing young teen in their early stage, to such a poisoneous drug. Danny Yang An Asian Holistic Physician cum Herbalist A ‘nobody’ in dealing with modern-days viruses!!! (this statement soothing to the ear on most people here)  LOL…LOL…LOL..

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Guru Yang, Before you decide to place your advertisement again in this newsgroup, you could perhaps consider telling what you *do* know about "mankind’s sickness" instead of simply boasting that medical science doesn’t know anything about it. You see, what makes medical science credible is that it explains what it knows. All medicine comes with an information sheet that lists exactly what the medicine contains, how it works, side effects, etc. What makes your holistic mumbo jumbo simply mumbo jumbo is that you do not, and probably cannot, even explain your "science" in any clear terms. As for all that whining about antibiotics, you will be pleased to know that in some countries, doctors indeed use them sparingly. That’s a question of medical culture, not of whether medical science understands the workings of poisonous fungi. Its true, the understanding on mankind’s sickness ie. on their cameabout, medical science and TCM know ‘nuts’ about it. Those simple sicknesses in making ie. sore throat, cold sweat, sickly feeling, night coughing and so on, don’t evem have medicine or available to treat it, let alone, those deadly virus derived modern-days sicknesses ie. hepatitis, west nile virus (a airborne virus category), aids and so on…

[rest of bull shit snipped]

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Guru Yang, Before you decide to place your advertisement again in this newsgroup, you could perhaps consider telling what you *do* know about "mankind’s sickness" instead of simply boasting that medical science doesn’t know anything about it. You see, what makes medical science credible is that it explains what it knows. All medicine comes with an information sheet that lists exactly what the medicine contains, how it works, side effects, etc. What makes your holistic mumbo jumbo simply mumbo jumbo is that you do not, and probably cannot, even explain your "science" in any clear terms. You see, what makes herbals credible is they are "certified" by the great "creator", "nature", "God" or whatever you acccept as the higher force. The arrogance and "practice" of medical science must be a grand disappointment to our "creator". Doing harm to others is against the laws of nature. The laws of nature take precedence and have power over the manmade laws of science. So, while these debates may be important to you, in reality, they are pointless and are based on profound misunderstanding.

It is you, Dave, who is misunderstanding. There are no "manmade laws of science." Science is in the business of discovering and describing the laws of nature. And indeed, the laws of nature do take precedence and have power over the superstitions of those who base their beliefs on MLM sales hype. –Rich

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Guru Yang, Before you decide to place your advertisement again in this newsgroup, you could perhaps consider telling what you *do* know about "mankind’s sickness" instead of simply boasting that medical science doesn’t know anything about it. You see, what makes medical science credible is that it explains what it knows. All medicine comes with an information sheet that lists exactly what the medicine contains, how it works, side effects, etc. What makes your holistic mumbo jumbo simply mumbo jumbo is that you do not, and probably cannot, even explain your "science" in any clear terms.

This is Danny Yang’s treatment for smallpox "Treating smallpox is ‘chicken’ to me. My method of treatment is simply by identifying its (viruses) ‘leader’, among those rashes and killing it with a tiny flame. The next morning, all those rashes would be subsided, by then." I believe from medical science perspectives, the method would not work because virus do not have a leader. Virus infection is decentralized and that observation is correlated with the high rate of virus infection. This is perhaps the strongest evidence that Danny Yang is at most a charlatan. As for all that whining about antibiotics, you will be pleased to know that in some countries, doctors indeed use them sparingly. That’s a question of medical culture, not of whether medical science understands the workings of poisonous fungi.

He just wants to get some attention. Unfortunately, he has very poor reputation here.

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