Christianity QA

Question:

The Jews have no right in Palestine

Oh dear. So much for the ‘non violent nature of Islam’. That sounds like a denial, not only of Israel’s right to exist but of the right of Jews to live in their own holy land, where they have lived already for far longer than Islam or Christianity has even existed! The claim of historical or spiritual tie between Jews and Palestine does not applied with historical realities or with constituents of statehood in their true sense. Judaism its character as a religion of revelation, is not a Nationality With an independent existence. Like wise the Jews are not one people with an independent personality. They are rather citizen of the states to which they belong .

True. And the same goes for Muslims and Christians. Which begs the question, why do so many countries have a deliberately invented Islamic identity? Israel is but oine country; they are a dozen, at least, with 50 times the population. The conclusion that what has been based upon for the occupation of the Palestinian lands and creating the artificial state of Israel is consider null and void .  So the Jews must return to where they come from, Poland, Russia, Etc, they know what nationality they had before skipped to Palestine…

Jews lived in the area before Palestine existed, before the people who became known as Palestinians followed them out of Egypt. You’re right to say that in an ideal world Israel’s Jewish identity would be diluted, so that it may become an ordinary secular democracy, but all the while it is surrounded by non-democracies with in the most part fiercely defended Muslim identities, this is impossible. You want to deny one group their religious identity but allow it for another. This is unfair. The order in which religious identity appeared in the middle east is roughly: Zorasterist, Egyptian Pantheist, Greek Pantheist, Judaic, Mithraist, Roman Pantheist, Christian, Islamic. The usual way of dealing with these problems is, ‘last in, first out’. So I wouldn’t be so quick to make demands of others which might more easily be made of you.

Response:

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -The Jews have no right in Palestine The claim of historical or spiritual tie between Jews and Palestine does not applied with historical realities or with constituents of statehood in their true sense. Judaism its character as a religion of revelation, is not a Nationality With an independent existence. Like wise the Jews are not one people with an independent personality. They are rather citizen of the states to which they belong . The conclusion that what has been based upon for the occupation of the Palestinian lands and creating the artificial state of Israel is consider null and void . So the Jews must return to where they come from, Poland, Russia, Etc, they know what nationality they had before skipped to Palestine…

Hey, abu, did you know that the vast majority of the DNA of ashkenazy jews comes from the middle east, according to the most recent (2002) DNA studies? I guess that kinda puts a damper on your morning posting zest, eh?

Response:

Most Arabs in Palestine have no right to live there. The Arabs should return to Saudi Arabia, the Yemen, Iraq, Egypt, Syria , the Lebanon, and the Gulf states. etc. from where they originally came from. There was never a State called Palestine with any capital nor any King, President or Prime minister. Actually the creation of any Palestinian state is artificial and should be considered null and void. The above conclusion is based on your logic, not ours! We support the creation of a Palestinian state for the Arabs, but the Arabs are not doing anything concrete about it other than the murder of their own suicide bombers and the innocent civilians of Israel.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The Jews have no right in Palestine The claim of historical or spiritual tie between Jews and Palestine does not applied with historical realities or with constituents of statehood in their true sense. Judaism its character as a religion of revelation, is not a Nationality With an independent existence. Like wise the Jews are not one people with an independent personality. They are rather citizen of the states to which they belong . The conclusion that what has been based upon for the occupation of the Palestinian lands and creating the artificial state of Israel is consider null and void .  So the Jews must return to where they come from, Poland, Russia, Etc, they know what nationality they had before skipped to Palestine…

Response:

The Jews do not want to occupy Palestine, they want to inhabit Israel.

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Response:

The Jews have no right in Palestine   The claim of historical or spiritual tie between Jews and Palestine does not applied with historical realities or with constituents of statehood in their true sense.  Judaism its character as a religion of revelation, is not a Nationality With an independent existence. Like wise the Jews are not one people with an independent personality. They are rather citizen of the states to which they belong .  The conclusion that what has been based upon for the occupation of the Palestinian lands and creating the artificial state of Israel is consider null and void .  So the Jews must return to where they come from, Poland, Russia, Etc, they know what nationality they had before skipped to Palestine…

So are you denying the validity of passages from Qur’an?  It sounds like you could be veering dangerously close to becoming a "murtadd", Abu Alfalfa!  (See my sig below.)  But at least in this post you didn’t tell quite as many outrageous historical lies as you did back in http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=a8e7ce7.0208050904.3f29acc1%40po… — Some Qur’an quotes:  5:20  qaala muusaa  5:21 "yaa qawmi

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