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Philip Peters wrote : The majority opinion is that it could happen as a reaction to the rioting in France, Germany and even Belgium but that it’s not likely. Is there rioting in Germany and Belgium too? Forgot to add: a few relatively small riots in Germany but nothing like France. The German, Belgian and Rotterdam events seem to be *copycat* activity (not so sure about Germany though where suburbs are rather unpleasant too).
This reminds me of this oldie: They’re rioting in Africa, They’re starving in Spain. There’s hurricanes in Florida, And Texas needs rain The whole world is festering With unhappy souls. The French hate the Germans, The Germans hate the Poles; Italians hate Yugoslavs, South Africans hate the Dutch, And I don’t like anybody very much! But we can be tranquil And thankful and proud, For man’s been endowed With a mushroom-shaped cloud. And we know for certain That some lovely day Someone will set the spark off, And we will all be blown away! They’re rioting in Africa, There’s strife in Iran. What nature doesn’t do to us Will be done by our fellow man! The Merry Minuet, composed by Sheldon Hamrick — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Philip Peters wrote : The majority opinion is that it could happen as a reaction to the rioting in France, Germany and even Belgium but that it’s not likely. Is there rioting in Germany and Belgium too? Forgot to add: a few relatively small riots in Germany but nothing like France. The German, Belgian and Rotterdam events seem to be *copycat* activity (not so sure about Germany though where suburbs are rather unpleasant too). This reminds me of this oldie: They’re rioting in Africa, They’re starving in Spain. There’s hurricanes in Florida, And Texas needs rain The whole world is festering With unhappy souls. The French hate the Germans, The Germans hate the Poles; Italians hate Yugoslavs, South Africans hate the Dutch, And I don’t like anybody very much! But we can be tranquil And thankful and proud, For man’s been endowed With a mushroom-shaped cloud. And we know for certain That some lovely day Someone will set the spark off, And we will all be blown away! They’re rioting in Africa, There’s strife in Iran. What nature doesn’t do to us Will be done by our fellow man! The Merry Minuet, composed by Sheldon Hamrick
Good stuff! P. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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Philip Peters wrote : The majority opinion is that it could happen as a reaction to the rioting in France, Germany and even Belgium but that it’s not likely. Is there rioting in Germany and Belgium too? Dennis
Forgot to add: a few relatively small riots in Germany but nothing like France. The German, Belgian and Rotterdam events seem to be *copycat* activity (not so sure about Germany though where suburbs are rather unpleasant too). P. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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Philip Peters wrote : The majority opinion is that it could happen as a reaction to the rioting in France, Germany and even Belgium but that it’s not likely.
Is there rioting in Germany and Belgium too? Dennis — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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Philip Peters wrote : The majority opinion is that it could happen as a reaction to the rioting in France, Germany and even Belgium but that it’s not likely. Is there rioting in Germany and Belgium too? Dennis
There was some in Belgium (small scale) and in Rotterdam six cars were burnt. I still don’t think it will get out of hand here. Philip (but you never know) — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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Inner Wisdom Revealed 4. I no longer need to punish, deceive, or compromise myself, unless I want to stay employed.
Been there, done that. 8. I honor my personality flaws for without them I would have no personality at all.
Nah. Speak for yourself! 9. Joan of Arc heard voices too.
*That* problem I don’t have, thank God (if you’ll pardon the expression.) 10. I am grateful that I am not as judgmental as all those censorious, self-righteous people around me.
Hear, hear! I judge those who are judgmental! Some ancient philosopher said, "You can see a Cynic’s pride through the holes in his shirt." A great collection! Dennis — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "4. I no longer need to punish, deceive, or compromise myself, unless I want to stay employed." That about sums up what my work place expects…but I do know what side of the line to stay on… smiles, Elise Yikeeeeeeeees doesn’t sound like a nice place to be 
Must be nice working for yourself, Miss Anna.
<Hand against forhead So difficult all this responsability 
Has Mr. Hendrick been behaving? ;)
No way ! Has Miss Anna been behaving? ;)
Absloutely not ! Chip
Love from Anna — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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I think that depends on which news media you read/listen to. Most religions say, in one form or another, "Ours is the only true way and our god is the only true god." In that way, most religions encourage tension with other belief systems. Islam is no better or worse in this regard than other theologies. The problem in France right now seems to be economic class struggles with racial/religious elements that inflame everybody. Much like the hurricane disaster in New Orleans — the poor suffered the most, and in that area the poor were mostly African-Americans, which sparked cries of racism. Racism was certainly a factor, but it’s class discrimination that was the main culprit.
I agree the combinatin of economic discrimination and racial religious elements are very dangerous ! It always grieves me to see things like this current situation in France. I would hate to be suffering from anxiety/panic with all that violence around me.
yes it is a sad situation and a no win situation also. The only thing that could help is real emphaty and understanding ! Love from Anna — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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That calmed down again but there is increasing tension between between young Muslim guys and the autochtonous population. And the news media (in the USA) keep saying there is nothing inherent in Islam that encourages tension with other belief systems. IOW they say it’s not the religion but a group of fringe elements in the religion. Makes me wonder whether the news media says what is true, or what they want and hope to be true.
It’s true. 98% of the Dutch Muslim population is against any kind of violence. What one sees is that the confusion of living "in between" two cultures and feeling only partly accepted by the autochtonous population can make young Muslims an easy prey for those who are trying to recruit them for the *Jihad*; they radicalize easily as they need some kind of *goal* and some kind of alternative *family*. It’s like a sect. It’s most certainly not inherent to Islam as a whole. Philip Our suburbs are not really ghettos like the French ones though. Of course there is a lot of debate here whether the same thing will happen here. The majority opinion is that it could happen as a reaction to the rioting in France, Germany and even Belgium but that it’s not likely. i agree woith that assessment. Time will tell. Chip
– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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"4. I no longer need to punish, deceive, or compromise myself, unless I want to stay employed." That about sums up what my work place expects…but I do know what side of the line to stay on… smiles, Elise Yikeeeeeeeees doesn’t sound like a nice place to be
Must be nice working for yourself, Miss Anna. Has Mr. Hendrick been behaving? ;) Has Miss Anna been behaving? ;) Chip — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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"Chip" wrote – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – On a more serious note, is there any rioting and burning in the Netherlands? Chip No, there isn’t. After the Van Gogh murder a year ago there was a beginning of racial riots but only in a very small way (relatively speaking) That calmed down again but there is increasing tension between between young Muslim guys and the autochtonous population. And the news media (in the USA) keep saying there is nothing inherent in Islam that encourages tension with other belief systems. IOW they say it’s not the religion but a group of fringe elements in the religion.
I think that it’s always the fanatics of any group who promote violence. Islam suffers from suicide bombers and their ilk, much like Christianity suffered from the Inquisition, among other atrocities. Makes me wonder whether the news media says what is true, or what they want and hope to be true.
I think that depends on which news media you read/listen to. Most religions say, in one form or another, "Ours is the only true way and our god is the only true god." In that way, most religions encourage tension with other belief systems. Islam is no better or worse in this regard than other theologies. The problem in France right now seems to be economic class struggles with racial/religious elements that inflame everybody. Much like the hurricane disaster in New Orleans — the poor suffered the most, and in that area the poor were mostly African-Americans, which sparked cries of racism. Racism was certainly a factor, but it’s class discrimination that was the main culprit. It always grieves me to see things like this current situation in France. I would hate to be suffering from anxiety/panic with all that violence around me. Deirdre — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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On a more serious note, is there any rioting and burning in the Netherlands? Chip No, there isn’t. After the Van Gogh murder a year ago there was a beginning of racial riots but only in a very small way (relatively speaking) That calmed down again but there is increasing tension between between young Muslim guys and the autochtonous population.
And the news media (in the USA) keep saying there is nothing inherent in Islam that encourages tension with other belief systems. IOW they say it’s not the religion but a group of fringe elements in the religion. Makes me wonder whether the news media says what is true, or what they want and hope to be true. Our suburbs are not really ghettos like the French ones though. Of course there is a lot of debate here whether the same thing will happen here. The majority opinion is that it could happen as a reaction to the rioting in France, Germany and even Belgium but that it’s not likely. i agree woith that assessment.
Time will tell. Chip — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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9. Joan of Arc heard voices too. And she lead the French army and kicked the English out of France. Not too many people who hear voices can do that. Not many people who don’t hear voices do it either. As a matter of fact it’s now considered bad form.
One never knows when something will come back into fashion. On a more serious note, is there any rioting and burning in the Netherlands? Chip — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 9. Joan of Arc heard voices too. And she lead the French army and kicked the English out of France. Not too many people who hear voices can do that. Not many people who don’t hear voices do it either. As a matter of fact it’s now considered bad form. One never knows when something will come back into fashion. On a more serious note, is there any rioting and burning in the Netherlands? Chip
No, there isn’t. After the Van Gogh murder a year ago there was a beginning of racial riots but only in a very small way (relatively speaking) That calmed down again but there is increasing tension between between young Muslim guys and the autochtonous population. Our suburbs are not really ghettos like the French ones though. Of course there is a lot of debate here whether the same thing will happen here. The majority opinion is that it could happen as a reaction to the rioting in France, Germany and even Belgium but that it’s not likely. i agree woith that assessment. Philip — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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9. Joan of Arc heard voices too. And she lead the French army and kicked the English out of France. Not too many people who hear voices can do that.
Not many people who don’t hear voices do it either. As a matter of fact it’s now considered bad form. P. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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And then France let the English back in when they built the chunnel!
Very true. But then the chunnel goes both ways. P. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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"4. I no longer need to punish, deceive, or compromise myself, unless I want to stay employed." That about sums up what my work place expects…but I do know what side of the line to stay on… smiles, Elise
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Inner Wisdom Revealed 1. As I let go of my feelings of guilt, I am in touch with my inner sociopath. 2. I have the power to channel my imagination into ever-soaring levels of suspicion and paranoia. 3. I assume full responsibility for my actions, except the ones that are someone else’s fault. 4. I no longer need to punish, deceive, or compromise myself, unless I want to stay employed. 5. In some cultures, what I do would be considered normal. 6. Having control over myself is almost as good as having control over others. 7. My intuition nearly makes up for my lack of self-judgment. 8. I honor my personality flaws for without them I would have no personality at all. 9. Joan of Arc heard voices too. 10. I am grateful that I am not as judgmental as all those censorious, self-righteous people around me. 11. I need not suffer in silence while I can still moan, whimper, and complain. 12. As I learn the innermost secrets of people around me, they reward me in many ways to keep me quiet. 13. When someone hurts me, I know that forgiveness is cheaper than a lawsuit, but not nearly as gratifying. 14. The first step is to say nice things about myself. The second, to do nice things for myself. The third, to find someone to buy me nice things. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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"4. I no longer need to punish, deceive, or compromise myself, unless I want to stay employed." That about sums up what my work place expects…but I do know what side of the line to stay on… smiles, Elise
Yikeeeeeeeees doesn’t sound like a nice place to be Love from Anna — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 9. Joan of Arc heard voices too. And she lead the French army and kicked the English out of France. Not too many people who hear voices can do that. Not many people who don’t hear voices do it either. As a matter of fact it’s now considered bad form. One never knows when something will come back into fashion. On a more serious note, is there any rioting and burning in the Netherlands? Chip No, there isn’t. After the Van Gogh murder a year ago there was a beginning of racial riots but only in a very small way (relatively speaking) That calmed down again but there is increasing tension between between young Muslim guys and the autochtonous population. Our suburbs are not really ghettos like the French ones though. Of course there is a lot of debate here whether the same thing will happen here. The majority opinion is that it could happen as a reaction to the rioting in France, Germany and even Belgium but that it’s not likely. i agree woith that assessment. Philip
OTOH there are some women going through meno pause that are most likely want to start a riot hahahahaha Love from Anna — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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And then France let the English back in when they built the chunnel! — there is no .sig
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 9. Joan of Arc heard voices too. And she lead the French army and kicked the English out of France. Not too many people who hear voices can do that. Chip — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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9. Joan of Arc heard voices too.
And she lead the French army and kicked the English out of France. Not too many people who hear voices can do that. Chip — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Inner Wisdom Revealed 1. As I let go of my feelings of guilt, I am in touch with my inner sociopath. 2. I have the power to channel my imagination into ever-soaring levels of suspicion and paranoia. 3. I assume full responsibility for my actions, except the ones that are someone else’s fault. 4. I no longer need to punish, deceive, or compromise myself, unless I want to stay employed. 5. In some cultures, what I do would be considered normal. 6. Having control over myself is almost as good as having control over others. 7. My intuition nearly makes up for my lack of self-judgment. 8. I honor my personality flaws for without them I would have no personality at all. 9. Joan of Arc heard voices too. 10. I am grateful that I am not as judgmental as all those censorious, self-righteous people around me. 11. I need not suffer in silence while I can still moan, whimper, and complain. 12. As I learn the innermost secrets of people around me, they reward me in many ways to keep me quiet. 13. When someone hurts me, I know that forgiveness is cheaper than a lawsuit, but not nearly as gratifying. 14. The first step is to say nice things about myself. The second, to do nice things for myself. The third, to find someone to buy me nice things.
– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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LOL. Like it.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Inner Wisdom Revealed 1. As I let go of my feelings of guilt, I am in touch with my inner sociopath. 2. I have the power to channel my imagination into ever-soaring levels of suspicion and paranoia. 3. I assume full responsibility for my actions, except the ones that are someone else’s fault. 4. I no longer need to punish, deceive, or compromise myself, unless I want to stay employed. 5. In some cultures, what I do would be considered normal. 6. Having control over myself is almost as good as having control over others. 7. My intuition nearly makes up for my lack of self-judgment. 8. I honor my personality flaws for without them I would have no personality at all. 9. Joan of Arc heard voices too. 10. I am grateful that I am not as judgmental as all those censorious, self-righteous people around me. 11. I need not suffer in silence while I can still moan, whimper, and complain. 12. As I learn the innermost secrets of people around me, they reward me in many ways to keep me quiet. 13. When someone hurts me, I know that forgiveness is cheaper than a lawsuit, but not nearly as gratifying. 14. The first step is to say nice things about myself. The second, to do nice things for myself. The third, to find someone to buy me nice things.
– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Inner Wisdom Revealed 1. As I let go of my feelings of guilt, I am in touch with my inner sociopath. 2. I have the power to channel my imagination into ever-soaring levels of suspicion and paranoia. 3. I assume full responsibility for my actions, except the ones that are someone else’s fault. 4. I no longer need to punish, deceive, or compromise myself, unless I want to stay employed. 5. In some cultures, what I do would be considered normal. 6. Having control over myself is almost as good as having control over others. 7. My intuition nearly makes up for my lack of self-judgment. 8. I honor my personality flaws for without them I would have no personality at all. 9. Joan of Arc heard voices too. 10. I am grateful that I am not as judgmental as all those censorious, self-righteous people around me. 11. I need not suffer in silence while I can still moan, whimper, and complain. 12. As I learn the innermost secrets of people around me, they reward me in many ways to keep me quiet. 13. When someone hurts me, I know that forgiveness is cheaper than a lawsuit, but not nearly as gratifying. 14. The first step is to say nice things about myself. The second, to do nice things for myself. The third, to find someone to buy me nice things.
We must be seeing the same Dr.!!! ;-) Tono — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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