Christianity QA

Question:

I dont understand what do you mean by writing so much crap? Do you want the Suicide Bombers and enablers of Sept 11 and their eco system go unpunished for carrying out evil deeds in the name of God. It is the Israel Military that fights Palestinian terrorists. Is it ethical to kill innocent Israelis or Americans. Islam would have it as ethical. In India a Muslim has more rights than he has in any Muslim majority country. Still the nature of Islam has ensured that a Muslim looks at his neighbour a Hindu as an enemy (Kaffir). If you genuinely care about the Palestine problem, join the work to eliminate the evil called Islam. There is so much land in Saudi Arabia. Why cant the arabs settle Palestines. After all are not Jews reclaiming their "small piece of land" from which they were evicted. If Palestinians are willing to give up the evil ideology of Islam, I myself will be glad to works towards settling Palestinians in India wheere the land is far more fertile than Palestine. Did we not settle in Zorashtrian refugees who fled Islamic terror in Iran. The problem is Islam and not Israel. Previously Palestinian cause had some sympathy…Islam and Islamic enfluence has ensured that Palestinian movement becomes evil causing pain and misery to everyone. Let us wipe out Islam. Visit http://www.faithfreedom.org for learning the truth about Islam.

Response:

I don’t need to go very far into this at this time. I might only note I write this because of the openly terrorist American Islamists that post on the Usenet. For all of their hatred of America, it can be amply noted that America is far superior to them than any of their nations ever would be.

 What is your deinfiiton of "superior"?  The ability to bully others using ‘might’? Their nations do not allow the freedoms we offer. There are not freedoms of religion. There are not freedoms for foreigners or immigrants. There are not freedoms of the press. And, even their people push for the barbaric Sharia "law". They had about one millennium of a head start over us! And, look where they are!

The Romans had it earlier than them.  So your logic is totally flawed. I wont’ watse my time to read the rest since you don’t seem to have enough knowledge of History (how Mongol invasion devastated the Great Baghdad of the global Islamic Empire) nor are you capable of discussing things using "logc". All you have is hatred, worse than the other extreme. Worse because the other extreme didn’t have the freedom to read and gain facts while you have it but you don’t use it.  You choose to be as ignorant. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Not even in terms of outright savage bigotry… expressed in kidnappings, church burnings, slaughters in churches and synagogues, in wanton attacks on civilians at places of worship and on holiday… indeed, they seem to attack nurses, not doctors, people caring for their people — and not soldiers fighting against them! They do this as a surprise attack, then their whole one billion of them praise these things! Do not visit their lands, for not only might you be raped, like on French woman recently, but if you complain, the Government will lock you up for adultery — as they did to her! Or, if you are a man, you will be kidnapped and have your throat slit like Daniel Pearl! Not even in terms of bigotry, but the US economy is about a hundred times larger than all of their nations combined! (If not more!) And, their nations take up nearly all of North Africa, all of the Middle East, a massive portion of Asia, and a very large part of the Pacific Islands! In terms of sheer size of land, of population, and of age — they dwarf us! Yet, we dwarf them in everything else! They do not know how to work! They just make war, and spend their times dawdling in mosques calling Christians and Jews "the sons of pigs and monkeys"! In spite of all of this, I will not say most American Muslims are this way. No, most American Muslims are not religious. But, for those that are, they dawdle about speaking out against Islamists. Indeed, they complain when they have to account for their presence, they urge others "not to speak to the FBI", and they are always sending money to their primary causes — not feeding starving Islamists, the US does that! But, for war, for their evil advances on the rest of the world! Let the US feed the earth’s poor, we pay for 60% of world food aid, but let the Muslims that have destroyed their own nations feed off us?! Until, what? Until, like Hitler, we will find they are very serious in their aims to destroy not just us, but the entire "infidel" world — to make an Islamic Caliphate rule us globally under the insanely savage Sharia?! My words may be harsh, but I am not carrying banners saying, "Death to the Islamist Nations" as they carry banners for us. Maybe, I, too, have lost my way, and am not strong enough against their hate. But, no, I do not believe in banners, but I believe in reason, in truth, and in justice. In this must we all stand, to promote the reasons for their evil, to argue the weightiness of the charges against them, to convict them of their crimes, and to persuade the consciences of ever more people that war against these murderous dogs must be supported for the very survival of the planet!

Response:

Let us continue our good work for the destruction of the evil and totalitarian ideology of Islam. One of my friends suggested the following to eliminate Islam: +After or during any terrorist action, like a suicide bomber, find the bombers family and kill them on the spot, no questions asked and no apologies given.

"Witnesses watched as more than 60 Palestinian shops were bulldozed to the ground this week in one West Bank village, while the owners stood by and watch helplessly. But not one American in ten saw or heard about this in the US press. An educated American pro-life activist was surprised to disbelief when I told him that the Israeli death losses run about one-fourth the number or Palestinians killed by Israelis. He thought the statistics were reversed, having never heard or seen a count in the US press, he has been brain scrubbed. Misinformation by the US press is not excusable in the Internet age. So Israel has provided an Orwellian propaganda filter called the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs (IMFA) that makes it all possible. It provides the convenient excuse the US press needs to look the other way and print abridged stories, keeping most of us ignorant. The propaganda arm of the Israeli military has once again been caught purposefully lying about the death count among its forces. We believe their purpose in doing this is to condition Americans into accepting Israel’s use of American-made weapons of mass destruction against the vulnerable civilian population in Gaza and the West Bank. Israel’s willing facilitator is the US Media, which spreads their distorted stories in the USA. This same pattern of misrepresentation is repeated again and again, proving how important and routine propaganda is to Israel. On December 5th, the IMFA released an account of two suspected sacrifice bombers (wrongly called suicide bombers*) who allegedly killed 22 persons and wounded more than 100. But the press release failed to mention that there were also Israeli military casualties in the raid. Furthermore, their account omitted the fact that a female army sergeant was among the killed. The omission is significant. It fits perfectly into the predictable pattern of how the IMFA deceives Americans almost daily. This practice repeatedly uses almost every report of Israeli deaths to distort the facts of their conflict with the Palestinians. We will now teach you how to read between the lies and know when the story is distorted. THE PATTERN OF DECEPTION On November 19, 2002, the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs (IMFA) re-manufactured a similar story about a Palestinian sacrifice raid on a military target. Twelve Israeli soldiers and paramilitary fighting men were killed and there was no collateral damage (civilians dead). The propagandists changed the "facts" to call the raid a "Massacre of innocent (Israeli) civilians," as the story was carried in the US press. It is a total and complete bald-faced lie which We Hold These Truths alone corrected it in our article: U. S. Media, Caught Lying… Again http://www.whtt.org/articles/021224.htm This writer put the facts together from the Israeli military’s own documents one month after the event was misreported. Do you, dear reader, know how to recognize such lies for yourself so you don’t have to wait for us to unravel it for you? To do this one must first understand the quaint language of the IMFA. We call these lies "z-facts" (short for Zionist facts) meaning lies that are couched in official, narrative sounding language but are indeed untrue. Here is how the Hebron report was distorted by z- facts, which the Media reported as rear facts. The first release from the IMFA read: "THE TERROR ATTACK IN HEBRON CLAIMED 12 LIVES." and "PALESTINIAN GUNMEN" had opened fire on "JEWISH WORSHIPPERS WALKING HOME FROM RELIGIOUS SERVICES," Z-facts differ from bald-faced lies because they do not state outright all the killed or wounded are civilians, but it is clearly implied. (In those rare cases where everyone killed are indeed civilian, the IMFA says so and saves its lies for a later day.) The truth is told only if it suits the teller. By calling an attack on an armed military unit a "terror attack" on "Jewish worshipers" and "claiming 12 lives," the z-facts leave the a clear impression that those killed were civilians. Any honest account would have called it "an attack on Israeli military unit by Palestinian guerillas" etc. In our previous article we explained the procedure as follows: "The Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs is a propaganda arm of the Israeli Defense Force (IDF). –They are the first to know who is killed. But they cause the story to be circulated that all killed were civilians because it serves their purpose. Then, once the misinformation has reached the American public, the corrected story is allowed to surface in Israel, though the false images are never corrected in the eyes of the American public." http://www.whtt.org/articles/021224.htm (please forgive us for quoting ourselves, but we are the best source) In January 5th story Israel did it again. This time every one of our readers should have detected the lie without being told. The press in both countries used the same predictable, deceptive language. Each stated "22 Israelis" had been killed and many more wounded. Had all those killed or wounded had been non-military the report would most likely have called them "civilians." The generic term "Israelis" suggest to us that the IMFA is hiding something, not wanting to identify who was really killed. They were. Later the same day, a sad corrected story was carried with the names of those killed. The IMFA stated that all of the victims had been identified and included Staff Sgt. Mazal Orkobi of Azor. Ha’aretz subsequently revealed in an obituary that Sgt. Orkobi was a 20 year- old female who was on her first day of active duty with the Israeli Defense Forces. But this part of the story never reached the USA. Nor can we find a disclosure as to how many of the 120 wounded were military. As usual, the IMFA did not disclose those who were in the active reserves but not on duty at the time of death…  But because military were killed and possibly wounded, no one can conclude they targeted civilians. In all but a few sacrifice bombings military are killed or wounded. The IMFA had two reasons for keeping Sergeant Orkobi’s name out of the print. They can garner sympathy for their air raids if the American public believes the sacrifice bombers are targeting civilians only. Israel kills Palestinian civilians by the dozens and do not even bother to apologize. The second reason Israel keeps Sergeant Orkobi’s name out of American’s minds is that most do not know that Israeli’s draft their girls and puts them in harms way. If American Christians knew about the mistreatment of Israeli women, including the use of Military-paid abortion as a birth control method, many would wonder about their unquestioned support of the Israeli war machine. Christian Israeli Patriots such as Pat Robertson, Franklin Graham and Jerry Falwell, who Ariel Sharon calls the Christian Zionists, might be embarrassed to explain their undying devotion to a regime which drafts women into combat, marches them hip to hip with men, and provides free abortions for the resulting problems. Some might wake up and actually wonder if boys and girls are conditioned to kill and torture Palestinian including children. Israel and a complicit US Media solve these twin problems by doctoring press releases with false statements that omit the loss of military personnel in guerilla raids. Female names are never associated with the military even though they make up about 1/3 of the total draftees. * ("Suicide bomber:" Suicide is the act of taking ones one life for the purpose of ending it. Sacrifice bombers have never been shown to have a desire to stop living; their motive is to find and destroy enemy personal regardless of the cost. Thus the term "sacrifice bombers" is more accurate in describing them. The former is an Israeli propaganda label. ) REFERENCES LITERATURE FROM WHTT: Israel’s policy of abusing its own women is detailed in two previous articles by this author. "THE EMBARRASSING ABUSE OF WOMEN IN ISRAEL’S WAR AGAINST MEN" Charles E Carlson (http://www.whtt.org/articles/020607.htm ) and "ISRAEL’S SLAUGHTER OF ISRAELIS ABORTION AND A DOUBLE-MINDED PEOPLE" By Se

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