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Question:

Yes, but evidently the dog does have free will.  The Scorpion has only will, the dog uses abstract {objective) information in making a decision…so the dog has free will.

Dogs are subservient, and like to help.  The fetch and bring things, the dog was bring the scorpion across the water.  That’s his nature, it would be against his nature not to have helped the Scorpion, because he should know better then to carry something that will kill you.  I’ve seen dogs kill themselves because they were chasing cars. The Scorpion’s nature does not allow him freewill, even when freewill is what he needs to survive.  All he needs to do is not to sting the dog and he will live, but because his nature is to sting, he sting.  What if Human Nature is to Think?  Try not thinking! Try to keep your mind blank. Language is something innate in man.  Without language, man has no being…no abstract information…no free will…no "ego"…only will and essence and subjectivity and "self".

I don’t believe you need language to think, just to communicate your thoughts and ideas to others.  I’ve worked with people who are mental handicapped, and you could see they had ideas and thought, but they just couldn’t communicate them with use. I can’t control my thoughts, things in my surrounding trigger my thinking, even what I’m thinking right this moment, the reply to your posting.  If I hadn’t read your posting I would not be thinking about it now.  But the fact is my thinking was lead down this road not because I wanted to reply but because it was in my nature to reply because thinking is what us humans do. I’m only responding to a trigger that is fuelling uncontrolled thought process that I am unable to stop. Wrong.

Can you prove me wrong???

Response:

The scorpian operated by will, the dog by free will.  The scorpian’s essence [nature] and being are the same.  Hence, the copula "IS".  The dog’s essence and being are not the same. Interesting point. Does this mean we may draw a distinction between soul and mind, equivalent perhaps to the distinction between empiricism and rationalism?

The soul is your "seat of emotions or feelings"…it is subjective…like your will.  If you base your decisions solely on your feelings, you are not being objective.  You are not looking outside of yourself for abstract information that you can use in deciding whether or not to act a certain way.  To me, this is will, not free will.  When you use your mind, you are also, hopefully, considering your feelings [not cutting them off...self-ego separation].  In free will, you consider both abstract information and your feelings…looking not only inside of yourself, but outside of yourself [objectively], in making a decision. Rationalism claims that there is a conformity between thought and being because reality has a form which is suitable for comprehension by thought. Empiricism holds that thought has no form of its own but is shaped by an external being. Hegel’s Absolute Idealism holds that thought and being are united in that being is the activity of thought, and thought finds itself when it investigates reality. I believe [right now, anyway] that Being = thought. The scorpion is alive but functions purely on the basis of perceptions, whereas the fox is able to reason on the basis of perception. Liebniz might have called the scorpion a ‘bare monad’, and the fox–like people–a ‘mind monad’.

yes…good analogy. [Although I do not embrace monism, because I believe in Time....and as a man, I do not already have absolute knowledge.  If I did, the words I write and speak would be the words of god.] Language is something innate in man.  Without language, man has no being…no abstract information…no free will…no "ego"…only will and essence and subjectivity and "self". It depends how you define ‘language’. Like animals, much of the way we humans communicate with each other is non-verbal. In fact language spoken through a non-visual medium like radio is radically different from interpersonal language, because it isn’t accompanied by visual signals such as facial expressions and gestures. So non-verbal language is an important part of human communication, which would seem to indicate that animals are also able to communicate abstract information to each other (threat or submission postures for example, indicating the animal’s intentions regarding social rank).

Yes…I agree.  I think animals do have a certain amount of free will.  The scorpian in this fable had less than the dog. loudbuzz

Response:

You are dumb enough to use Outlook Express because it is installed by default and you don’t know any better. You are dumb enough to top post because that is the default setting and you don’t know any better.

Anyone using outlook should be drawn and quartered. Or even worse, should be forced to attend a Christian worship service.. "Hab nun, ach! die Philosophey, Medizin und Juristerey Und leider auch die Theologie Durchaus studirt mit heisser M

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