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And had you been there you would have screamed the loudest "Crucify him." DW Suiter Son of God

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks Bill for displaying the mind of the religionist. A perverted mind believing the perverted interpretation of what Paul wrote. It is not possible for you or any other person to know what Paul said unless you have first been taught truth by God. ===What a pompous ass you are, Mr. Suiter, "Son of God"! Any educated person can read what is written, but only your "perverted" mind, which you imagine is being "taught by God", can give it the twist YOU prefer. You live in a fantasy world, having developed a set of interpretations and beliefs on the basis of which you consider yourself superior to the "religionists", i.e. everyone who disagrees with your absurdities. — L. Which you have not. So with mental density you join the other religionists with the perverted mind condemning what you know nothing about. And that, is pure stupidity. Paul continued the same works begun by Jesus of Nazareth, teaching the reality of God and the way of transformation by God.  But these are matters you cannot begin to comprehend because you are not of God; your mind is filled with false religious teachings. DW Suiter Son of God Only dumb and ignorant people do not believe what Paul declared of ongoing life. Paul, was a Son and Christ of God. He continued the works begun by Jesus of Nazareth. To speak against him and his word is to speak against God. DW Suiter Son of God Bullshit, Donald!! Paul was a lying, conniving opportunist. Read Galations very carefully and tell me how he managed to twist the promise to Abraham to suit his own doctrine. That’s just for starters. Was he a Pharisee as he claimed? Very doubtful if you research the Jewish religious hierarchy at that time. How did he become converted? Well, there are at least three different versions in Acts…seems he could not ever get his story straight! The Christian religion should be called *Paulism* since he triumphed over the original founder(s). Shalom, Bill Dufour) I was thinking about how cruelly St. Paul, a man who gave his life to bring people back to God, was maligned recently here in this group (alt.religion.unification). Since I frequent alt.bible, I didn’t catch the thread, but Paul, the self-confessed liar who would be all things to all men, deserves maligning. ===There is no evidence of him "giving his life". Perhaps he realized how he conned people into believing they would not die if they listened to him, so he went into exile somewhere in the Empire. — L.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Renay St. James said: Thanks Bill for displaying the mind of the religionist. A perverted mind believing the perverted interpretation of what Paul wrote. It is not possible for you or any other person to know what Paul said unless you have first been taught truth by God. Which you have not. So with mental density you join the other religionists with the perverted mind condemning what you know nothing about. And that, is pure stupidity. Paul continued the same works begun by Jesus of Nazareth, teaching the reality of God and the way of transformation by God.  But these are matters you cannot begin to comprehend because you are not of God; your mind is filled with false religious teachings. DW Suiter Son of God for a "son of god" you sure act like an asshole. do you know Chunk? he’s a sog too. Renay God must be a player to have so many sons. Sad though, having only boys. I mean, you never hear "daughter of God".

For some reason, bible God just doesn’t seem to like women, even had to have a Ghost go rape an Earth women for him to have a son, very possible that he is impotent or perhaps homosexual. As are all of these people calling themselves "son of God". John

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Renay St. James said: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks Bill for displaying the mind of the religionist. A perverted mind believing the perverted interpretation of what Paul wrote. It is not possible for you or any other person to know what Paul said unless you have first been taught truth by God. Which you have not. So with mental density you join the other religionists with the perverted mind condemning what you know nothing about. And that, is pure stupidity. Paul continued the same works begun by Jesus of Nazareth, teaching the reality of God and the way of transformation by God.  But these are matters you cannot begin to comprehend because you are not of God; your mind is filled with false religious teachings. DW Suiter Son of God for a "son of god" you sure act like an asshole. do you know Chunk? he’s a sog too. Renay

God must be a player to have so many sons. Sad though, having only boys. I mean, you never hear "daughter of God". — Cm~

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – DW Suiter, I’ve heard that name before, weren’t you involved in a big crime that made all of the newspapers  a while ago? John ===Of course not. Don’t you believe he is the "son of God"??? ;-) — L. Something to do with Sam Berkowitz maybe?  Wait… it’s coming to me now in a vision… damned static… wait, wait… Son of Sam! That’s it, have you ever or do you now live in NY City? ;-) John ===Just wait till "God" starts talking to "son of God" and tells him to something criminal. — L.

That’s what worries me about a lot of these morons. John – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was thinking about how cruelly St. Paul, a man who gave his life to bring people back to God, was maligned recently here in this group (alt.religion.unification).  Here is a poem by Rudyard Kipling: So who maligned him? Those are some pretty harsh words to accuse somebody of. Are you sure you are NOT judging people too harshly? I guess you must be refering to the *critics* of MOON who you worship? WHY am I NOT surprised by your attempt to defame the opposition? By NO less using the words of Paul to do it with. Here’s somebody who keeps saying that Paul is "The AntiChrist". But not in alt.religion.unification, in alt.bible (among many other newsgroups):

Well he could be the Anti-Christ but it is highly unlikely. Characters in works of fiction like the bible very rarely do anything in real life. John

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I was thinking about how cruelly St. Paul, a man who gave his life to bring people back to God, was maligned recently here in this group (alt.religion.unification).  Here is a poem by Rudyard Kipling: So who maligned him? Those are some pretty harsh words to accuse somebody of. Are you sure you are NOT judging people too harshly? I guess you must be refering to the *critics* of MOON who you worship? WHY am I NOT surprised by your attempt to defame the opposition? By NO less using the words of Paul to do it with.

Here’s somebody who keeps saying that Paul is "The AntiChrist". But not in alt.religion.unification, in alt.bible (among many other newsgroups): http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=rTLzc.94706%240X2.4286228%40twis… Here is the entire thread: http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=7fXFc.15520%24uK.3496%40twist…

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks Bill for displaying the mind of the religionist. A perverted mind believing the perverted interpretation of what Paul wrote. It is not possible for you or any other person to know what Paul said unless you have first been taught truth by God. Which you have not. So with mental density you join the other religionists with the perverted mind condemning what you know nothing about. And that, is pure stupidity. Paul continued the same works begun by Jesus of Nazareth, teaching the reality of God and the way of transformation by God.  But these are matters you cannot begin to comprehend because you are not of God; your mind is filled with false religious teachings. DW Suiter Son of God

for a "son of god" you sure act like an asshole. do you know Chunk? he’s a sog too. Renay

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – DW Suiter, I’ve heard that name before, weren’t you involved in a big crime that made all of the newspapers  a while ago? John ===Of course not. Don’t you believe he is the "son of God"??? ;-) — L. Something to do with Sam Berkowitz maybe?  Wait… it’s coming to me now in a vision… damned static… wait, wait… Son of Sam! That’s it, have you ever or do you now live in NY City? ;-) John

===Just wait till "God" starts talking to "son of God" and tells him to something criminal. — L.

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DW Suiter, I’ve heard that name before, weren’t you involved in a big crime that made all of the newspapers  a while ago? John ===Of course not. Don’t you believe he is the "son of God"??? ;-) — L.

Something to do with Sam Berkowitz maybe?  Wait… it’s coming to me now in a vision… damned static… wait, wait… Son of Sam! That’s it, have you ever or do you now live in NY City? ;-) John – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Only dumb and ignorant people do not believe what Paul declared of ongoing life. Paul, was a Son and Christ of God. He continued the works begun by Jesus of Nazareth. To speak against him and his word is to speak against God. DW Suiter Son of God I was thinking about how cruelly St. Paul, a man who gave his life to bring people back to God, was maligned recently here in this group (alt.religion.unification). Since I frequent alt.bible, I didn’t catch the thread, but Paul, the self-confessed liar who would be all things to all men, deserves maligning. ===There is no evidence of him "giving his life". Perhaps he realized how he conned people into believing they would not die if they listened to him, so he went into exile somewhere in the Empire. — L.

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Thanks Bill for displaying the mind of the religionist. A perverted mind believing the perverted interpretation of what Paul wrote. It is not possible for you or any other person to know what Paul said unless you have first been taught truth by God.

===What a pompous ass you are, Mr. Suiter, "Son of God"! Any educated person can read what is written, but only your "perverted" mind, which you imagine is being "taught by God", can give it the twist YOU prefer. You live in a fantasy world, having developed a set of interpretations and beliefs on the basis of which you consider yourself superior to the "religionists", i.e. everyone who disagrees with your absurdities. — L. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Which you have not. So with mental density you join the other religionists with the perverted mind condemning what you know nothing about. And that, is pure stupidity. Paul continued the same works begun by Jesus of Nazareth, teaching the reality of God and the way of transformation by God.  But these are matters you cannot begin to comprehend because you are not of God; your mind is filled with false religious teachings. DW Suiter Son of God Only dumb and ignorant people do not believe what Paul declared of ongoing life. Paul, was a Son and Christ of God. He continued the works begun by Jesus of Nazareth. To speak against him and his word is to speak against God. DW Suiter Son of God Bullshit, Donald!! Paul was a lying, conniving opportunist. Read Galations very carefully and tell me how he managed to twist the promise to Abraham to suit his own doctrine. That’s just for starters. Was he a Pharisee as he claimed? Very doubtful if you research the Jewish religious hierarchy at that time. How did he become converted? Well, there are at least three different versions in Acts…seems he could not ever get his story straight! The Christian religion should be called *Paulism* since he triumphed over the original founder(s). Shalom, Bill I was thinking about how cruelly St. Paul, a man who gave his life to bring people back to God, was maligned recently here in this group (alt.religion.unification). Since I frequent alt.bible, I didn’t catch the thread, but Paul, the self-confessed liar who would be all things to all men, deserves maligning. ===There is no evidence of him "giving his life". Perhaps he realized how he conned people into believing they would not die if they listened to him, so he went into exile somewhere in the Empire. — L.

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DW Suiter, I’ve heard that name before, weren’t you involved in a big crime that made all of the newspapers  a while ago? John

===Of course not. Don’t you believe he is the "son of God"??? ;-) — L. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Only dumb and ignorant people do not believe what Paul declared of ongoing life. Paul, was a Son and Christ of God. He continued the works begun by Jesus of Nazareth. To speak against him and his word is to speak against God. DW Suiter Son of God I was thinking about how cruelly St. Paul, a man who gave his life to bring people back to God, was maligned recently here in this group (alt.religion.unification). Since I frequent alt.bible, I didn’t catch the thread, but Paul, the self-confessed liar who would be all things to all men, deserves maligning. ===There is no evidence of him "giving his life". Perhaps he realized how he conned people into believing they would not die if they listened to him, so he went into exile somewhere in the Empire. — L.

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<<liberated from redundancy Perhaps he realized how he conned people into believing they would not die if they listened to him, so he went into exile somewhere in the Empire. — L.         This bit of conjecture ranks with the great pulp fiction of the past, redolent of Lovecraft, et al.

===Of course it is a conjecture. Silly comment. Where did you learn to read? The first word was "Perhaps". It means "possibly but not certainly : MAYBE" But there is no proof of any other ending, is there? — L.

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Only dumb and ignorant people do not believe what Paul declared of ongoing life.

===Only dumb and ignorant people make such biased ASSertions. Paul, was a Son and Christ of God. He continued the works begun by Jesus of Nazareth. To speak against him and his word is to speak against God. DW Suiter Son of God

===That explains it. You think you are superior to others because you believe that nonsense, ignoring the FACT that his "gospel" wa teaching a FALSEHOOD. "The Lord" did not show up, no one rose from the graves, nor did either he or his followers get suddenly transsubstantiated and taken up to "heaven". — L. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was thinking about how cruelly St. Paul, a man who gave his life to bring people back to God, was maligned recently here in this group (alt.religion.unification). Since I frequent alt.bible, I didn’t catch the thread, but Paul, the self-confessed liar who would be all things to all men, deserves maligning. ===There is no evidence of him "giving his life". Perhaps he realized how he conned people into believing they would not die if they listened to him, so he went into exile somewhere in the Empire. — L.

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Thanks Bill for displaying the mind of the religionist. A perverted mind believing the perverted interpretation of what Paul wrote. It is not possible for you or any other person to know what Paul said unless you have first been taught truth by God. Which you have not. So with mental density you join the other religionists with the perverted mind condemning what you know nothing about. And that, is pure stupidity. Paul continued the same works begun by Jesus of Nazareth, teaching the reality of God and the way of transformation by God.  But these are matters you cannot begin to comprehend because you are not of God; your mind is filled with false religious teachings. DW Suiter Son of God

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Only dumb and ignorant people do not believe what Paul declared of ongoing life. Paul, was a Son and Christ of God. He continued the works begun by Jesus of Nazareth. To speak against him and his word is to speak against God. DW Suiter Son of God Bullshit, Donald!! Paul was a lying, conniving opportunist. Read Galations very carefully and tell me how he managed to twist the promise to Abraham to suit his own doctrine. That’s just for starters. Was he a Pharisee as he claimed? Very doubtful if you research the Jewish religious hierarchy at that time. How did he become converted? Well, there are at least three different versions in Acts…seems he could not ever get his story straight! The Christian religion should be called *Paulism* since he triumphed over the original founder(s). Shalom, Bill I was thinking about how cruelly St. Paul, a man who gave his life to bring people back to God, was maligned recently here in this group (alt.religion.unification). Since I frequent alt.bible, I didn’t catch the thread, but Paul, the self-confessed liar who would be all things to all men, deserves maligning. ===There is no evidence of him "giving his life". Perhaps he realized how he conned people into believing they would not die if they listened to him, so he went into exile somewhere in the Empire. — L.

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Only dumb and ignorant people do not believe what Paul declared of ongoing life. Paul, was a Son and Christ of God. He continued the works begun by Jesus of Nazareth. To speak against him and his word is to speak against God. DW Suiter Son of God

Bullshit, Donald!! Paul was a lying, conniving opportunist. Read Galations very carefully and tell me how he managed to twist the promise to Abraham to suit his own doctrine. That’s just for starters. Was he a Pharisee as he claimed? Very doubtful if you research the Jewish religious hierarchy at that time. How did he become converted? Well, there are at least three different versions in Acts…seems he could not ever get his story straight! The Christian religion should be called *Paulism* since he triumphed over the original founder(s). Shalom, Bill – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was thinking about how cruelly St. Paul, a man who gave his life to bring people back to God, was maligned recently here in this group (alt.religion.unification). Since I frequent alt.bible, I didn’t catch the thread, but Paul, the self-confessed liar who would be all things to all men, deserves maligning. ===There is no evidence of him "giving his life". Perhaps he realized how he conned people into believing they would not die if they listened to him, so he went into exile somewhere in the Empire. — L.

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I was thinking

No you weren’t, Moonie. — PJR :-) alt.usenet.kooks award-winners and FAQs: http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/

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Sorry, you are mistaken. DW Suiter Son of God

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – DW Suiter, I’ve heard that name before, weren’t you involved in a big crime that made all of the newspapers  a while ago? John Only dumb and ignorant people do not believe what Paul declared of ongoing life. Paul, was a Son and Christ of God. He continued the works begun by Jesus of Nazareth. To speak against him and his word is to speak against God. DW Suiter Son of God I was thinking about how cruelly St. Paul, a man who gave his life to bring people back to God, was maligned recently here in this group (alt.religion.unification). Since I frequent alt.bible, I didn’t catch the thread, but Paul, the self-confessed liar who would be all things to all men, deserves maligning. ===There is no evidence of him "giving his life". Perhaps he realized how he conned people into believing they would not die if they listened to him, so he went into exile somewhere in the Empire. — L.

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DW Suiter, I’ve heard that name before, weren’t you involved in a big crime that made all of the newspapers  a while ago? John

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Only dumb and ignorant people do not believe what Paul declared of ongoing life. Paul, was a Son and Christ of God. He continued the works begun by Jesus of Nazareth. To speak against him and his word is to speak against God. DW Suiter Son of God I was thinking about how cruelly St. Paul, a man who gave his life to bring people back to God, was maligned recently here in this group (alt.religion.unification). Since I frequent alt.bible, I didn’t catch the thread, but Paul, the self-confessed liar who would be all things to all men, deserves maligning. ===There is no evidence of him "giving his life". Perhaps he realized how he conned people into believing they would not die if they listened to him, so he went into exile somewhere in the Empire. — L.

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<<liberated from redundancy Perhaps he realized how he conned people into believing they would not die if they listened to him, so he went into exile somewhere in the Empire. — L.

        This bit of conjecture ranks with the great pulp fiction of the past, redolent of Lovecraft, et al. Dissin’ Cthulhu, Hector

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Only dumb and ignorant people do not believe what Paul declared of ongoing life. Paul, was a Son and Christ of God. He continued the works begun by Jesus of Nazareth. To speak against him and his word is to speak against God. DW Suiter Son of God

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was thinking about how cruelly St. Paul, a man who gave his life to bring people back to God, was maligned recently here in this group (alt.religion.unification). Since I frequent alt.bible, I didn’t catch the thread, but Paul, the self-confessed liar who would be all things to all men, deserves maligning. ===There is no evidence of him "giving his life". Perhaps he realized how he conned people into believing they would not die if they listened to him, so he went into exile somewhere in the Empire. — L.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was thinking about how cruelly St. Paul, a man who gave his life to bring people back to God, was maligned recently here in this group (alt.religion.unification).  Here is a poem by Rudyard Kipling: So who maligned him? Those are some pretty harsh words to accuse somebody of. Are you sure you are NOT judging people too harshly? I guess you must be refering to the *critics* of MOON who you worship? WHY am I NOT surprised by your attempt to defame the opposition? By NO less using the words of Paul to do it with. I gotta ask myself.. ..WHY are you doing this? Have you *moonies* NO shame, or conscience? bd4u

???  Isn’t a Moon a form of showing off an asshole? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – At His Execution St. Paul I am made all things to all men–    Hebrew, Roman, and Greek–    In each one’s tongue I speak, Suiting to each my word, That some may be drawn to the Lord! I am made all things to all men–    In City or Wilderness    Praising the crafts they profess That some may be drawn to the Lord– By any means to my Lord! Since I was overcome    By that great Light and Word,    I have forgot or forgone The self men call their own (Being made all things to all men)    So that I might save some    At such small price, to the Lord, As being all things to all men. I was made all things to all men, But now my course is done– And now is my reward… Ah, Christ, when I stand at Thy Throne With those I have drawn to the Lord, Restore me my self again!

– ——-(m+   ~/:o)_| The most essential gift for a good writer is  a built-in, shock-proof, shit detector.  – Hemingway http://scrawlmark.org

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I was thinking about how cruelly St. Paul, a man who gave his life to bring people back to God, was maligned recently here in this group (alt.religion.unification). Since I frequent alt.bible, I didn’t catch the thread, but Paul, the self-confessed liar who would be all things to all men, deserves maligning.

===There is no evidence of him "giving his life". Perhaps he realized how he conned people into believing they would not die if they listened to him, so he went into exile somewhere in the Empire. — L.

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I was thinking about how cruelly St. Paul, a man who gave his life to bring people back to God, was maligned recently here in this group (alt.religion.unification).

Since I frequent alt.bible, I didn’t catch the thread, but Paul, the self-confessed liar who would be all things to all men, deserves maligning. ## The New Testament is less a Christiad than a Pauliad. Thomas Hardy

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I was thinking about how cruelly St. Paul, a man who gave his life to bring people back to God, was maligned recently here in this group (alt.religion.unification).  Here is a poem by Rudyard Kipling:

So who maligned him? Those are some pretty harsh words to accuse somebody of. Are you sure you are NOT judging people too harshly? I guess you must be refering to the *critics* of MOON who you worship? WHY am I NOT surprised by your attempt to defame the opposition? By NO less using the words of Paul to do it with. I gotta ask myself.. ..WHY are you doing this? Have you *moonies* NO shame, or conscience? bd4u – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -At His Execution St. Paul I am made all things to all men–    Hebrew, Roman, and Greek–    In each one’s tongue I speak, Suiting to each my word, That some may be drawn to the Lord! I am made all things to all men–    In City or Wilderness    Praising the crafts they profess That some may be drawn to the Lord– By any means to my Lord! Since I was overcome    By that great Light and Word,    I have forgot or forgone The self men call their own (Being made all things to all men)    So that I might save some    At such small price, to the Lord, As being all things to all men. I was made all things to all men, But now my course is done– And now is my reward… Ah, Christ, when I stand at Thy Throne With those I have drawn to the Lord, Restore me my self again!

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I was thinking about how cruelly St. Paul, a man who gave his life to bring people back to God, was maligned recently here in this group (alt.religion.unification).  Here is a poem by Rudyard Kipling: At His Execution St. Paul I am made all things to all men–     Hebrew, Roman, and Greek–     In each one’s tongue I speak, Suiting to each my word, That some may be drawn to the Lord! I am made all things to all men–     In City or Wilderness     Praising the crafts they profess That some may be drawn to the Lord– By any means to my Lord! Since I was overcome     By that great Light and Word,     I have forgot or forgone The self men call their own (Being made all things to all men)     So that I might save some     At such small price, to the Lord, As being all things to all men. I was made all things to all men, But now my course is done– And now is my reward… Ah, Christ, when I stand at Thy Throne With those I have drawn to the Lord,  Restore me my self again!

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