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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is what is being decided now. In 1942, George Walker Bush’s grandfather Prescott Bush was managing director of a bank that had its assets via an executive vesting order signed by FDR.  The name of the bank was Union Bank.  The majority stockholder in the bank was Averell Harriman.  As managing director, it was Prescott Bush’s job to loan money to Adolf Thyssen, Hitler’s wartime minister of Munitions and Industries. Read all about it … below. Thank GOD for Webster Tarpley and Anton Chaitkin. Unfortunately, the pattern of building up a cruel dictator and then squashing him did not end with Adolf Hitler. George Bush was also involved in the arming of Saddam Hussein.  In the ’70’s and ’80’s, the United States needed a counter-balancing force to Iran.  Iraq was convenient.  Through BCCI and other channels, George HW Bush first helped Saddam Hussein with financing and building his empire. Then, when Saddam got out of line (or America needed a war, perhaps to take the attention off the economy, since Saddam checked with April Glaspie, American ambassador, before invading Kuwait.) That is, Saddam Hussein asked for his "master’s" permission – the master being George Bush. April Glaspie said, "Oh, no, we don’t have a problem with that." They had the personality profiles on Saddam to know that, once he invaded, he’d stubbornly resist withdrawal. Then, in 1993, when George HW and Barbara Bush visited Kuwait, they took with them 3 sons – including Presidential Candidate George Walker Bush.  At that time, contracts for exclusive oil-drilling contracts for country-sized tracts of land in and around Kuwait – the Gulf of Bahrain, for example – were signed. Dick Cheney profited from these contracts and this war also. The Bush family has demonstrated a consistent pattern of war profiteering – 4 generations’ worth. In my book, the Bible, that is highly immoral. In your book the Bible, you are admonished not to speak evil of

dignitaries. George W. Bush announced to the world that he is a "born again" Christian.

So bloody what? He confesses Christ Jesus as His Lord and Savior. That means he is heir to a much larger fortune than the world possess.

And that means what in terms of the above?  "Confessing" Jesus doesn’t mean you’re not a total prick and the wrong person to be president of this country. Jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — "Get in the Spirit, stay in the Spirit, and follow the Spirit at any cost."

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This is what is being decided now. In 1942, George Walker Bush’s grandfather Prescott Bush was managing director of a bank that had its assets via an executive vesting order signed by FDR.  The name of the bank was Union Bank.  The majority stockholder in the bank was Averell Harriman.  As managing director, it was Prescott Bush’s job to loan money to Adolf Thyssen, Hitler’s wartime minister of Munitions and Industries. Read all about it … below.

<Clipped Thank you for all of you helpfull insite to the misdeads of his predecessors. Will you now print all the wrong doings of ALGORE that he personally commited? I highly doubt it because you are a biased divider searching for ANYTHING to disqualify someone you don’t like, and the truth be damned. Jimmy Carter had a greatgrandfather who was hung as a horsethief. Is he now too evil to have been president? Did you know that Joe Kennedy made his fortune due to inside information that the market was going to crash in 1929? It is believed that he even had much to do with causing the market crash. Did you print that to keep people from voting for any Kennedy. What about dear Teddy? More people died in his car than in GW Bush’s car. Get a clue and get a life. Stop hating for a change. You make yourself look so stupid! Peter

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As far as the myth that George Walker Bush is somehow pro-life – it’s total B.S. He had an abortion himself when he was younger,

He did? WOW-  I bet that really hurt. and he knows that – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – a middle-class or wealthy woman will ALWAY be able to find a doctor who will perform the dirthy deed.

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As the devil and deceiver declares he is a "born again" Christian. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is what is being decided now. In 1942, George Walker Bush’s grandfather Prescott Bush was managing director of a bank that had its assets via an executive vesting order signed by FDR.  The name of the bank was Union Bank.  The majority stockholder in the bank was Averell Harriman.  As managing director, it was Prescott Bush’s job to loan money to Adolf Thyssen, Hitler’s wartime minister of Munitions and Industries. Read all about it … below. Thank GOD for Webster Tarpley and Anton Chaitkin. Unfortunately, the pattern of building up a cruel dictator and then squashing him did not end with Adolf Hitler. George Bush was also involved in the arming of Saddam Hussein.  In the ’70’s and ’80’s, the United States needed a counter-balancing force to Iran.  Iraq was convenient.  Through BCCI and other channels, George HW Bush first helped Saddam Hussein with financing and building his empire. Then, when Saddam got out of line (or America needed a war, perhaps to take the attention off the economy, since Saddam checked with April Glaspie, American ambassador, before invading Kuwait.) That is, Saddam Hussein asked for his "master’s" permission – the master being George Bush. April Glaspie said, "Oh, no, we don’t have a problem with that." They had the personality profiles on Saddam to know that, once he invaded, he’d stubbornly resist withdrawal. Then, in 1993, when George HW and Barbara Bush visited Kuwait, they took with them 3 sons – including Presidential Candidate George Walker Bush.  At that time, contracts for exclusive oil-drilling contracts for country-sized tracts of land in and around Kuwait – the Gulf of Bahrain, for example – were signed. Dick Cheney profited from these contracts and this war also. The Bush family has demonstrated a consistent pattern of war profiteering – 4 generations’ worth. In my book, the Bible, that is highly immoral. In your book the Bible, you are admonished not to speak evil of dignitaries. George W. Bush announced to the world that he is a "born again" Christian. He confesses Christ Jesus as His Lord and Savior. That means he is heir to a much larger fortune than the world possess. — "Get in the Spirit, stay in the Spirit, and follow the Spirit at any cost."

Son of God Spirit of Truth The things of God knoweth no man, but him who is the Spirit of God. You are they who justify yourselves before men; but God knows your hearts; for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is what is being decided now. In 1942, George Walker Bush’s grandfather Prescott Bush was managing director of a bank that had its assets via an executive vesting order signed by FDR.  The name of the bank was Union Bank.  The majority stockholder in the bank was Averell Harriman.  As managing director, it was Prescott Bush’s job to loan money to Adolf Thyssen, Hitler’s wartime minister of Munitions and Industries. Read all about it … below. Thank GOD for Webster Tarpley and Anton Chaitkin. Unfortunately, the pattern of building up a cruel dictator and then squashing him did not end with Adolf Hitler. George Bush was also involved in the arming of Saddam Hussein.  In the ’70’s and ’80’s, the United States needed a counter-balancing force to Iran.  Iraq was convenient.  Through BCCI and other channels, George HW Bush first helped Saddam Hussein with financing and building his empire. Then, when Saddam got out of line (or America needed a war, perhaps to take the attention off the economy, since Saddam checked with April Glaspie, American ambassador, before invading Kuwait.) That is, Saddam Hussein asked for his "master’s" permission – the master being George Bush. April Glaspie said, "Oh, no, we don’t have a problem with that." They had the personality profiles on Saddam to know that, once he invaded, he’d stubbornly resist withdrawal. Then, in 1993, when George HW and Barbara Bush visited Kuwait, they took with them 3 sons – including Presidential Candidate George Walker Bush.  At that time, contracts for exclusive oil-drilling contracts for country-sized tracts of land in and around Kuwait – the Gulf of Bahrain, for example – were signed. Dick Cheney profited from these contracts and this war also. The Bush family has demonstrated a consistent pattern of war profiteering – 4 generations’ worth. In my book, the Bible, that is highly immoral.

In your book the Bible, you are admonished not to speak evil of dignitaries. George W. Bush announced to the world that he is a "born again" Christian. He confesses Christ Jesus as His Lord and Savior. That means he is heir to a much larger fortune than the world possess. — "Get in the Spirit, stay in the Spirit, and follow the Spirit at any cost."

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This is what is being decided now. In 1942, George Walker Bush’s grandfather Prescott Bush was managing director of a bank that had its assets via an executive vesting order signed by FDR.  The name of the bank was Union Bank.  The majority stockholder in the bank was Averell Harriman.  As managing director, it was Prescott Bush’s job to loan money to Adolf Thyssen, Hitler’s wartime minister of Munitions and Industries. Read all about it … below. Thank GOD for Webster Tarpley and Anton Chaitkin. Unfortunately, the pattern of building up a cruel dictator and then squashing him did not end with Adolf Hitler. George Bush was also involved in the arming of Saddam Hussein.  In the ’70’s and ’80’s, the United States needed a counter-balancing force to Iran.  Iraq was convenient.  Through BCCI and other channels, George HW Bush first helped Saddam Hussein with financing and building his empire. Then, when Saddam got out of line (or America needed a war, perhaps to take the attention off the economy, since Saddam checked with April Glaspie, American ambassador, before invading Kuwait.) That is, Saddam Hussein asked for his "master’s" permission – the master being George Bush. April Glaspie said, "Oh, no, we don’t have a problem with that." They had the personality profiles on Saddam to know that, once he invaded, he’d stubbornly resist withdrawal. Then, in 1993, when George HW and Barbara Bush visited Kuwait, they took with them 3 sons – including Presidential Candidate George Walker Bush.  At that time, contracts for exclusive oil-drilling contracts for country-sized tracts of land in and around Kuwait – the Gulf of Bahrain, for example – were signed. Dick Cheney profited from these contracts and this war also. The Bush family has demonstrated a consistent pattern of war profiteering – 4 generations’ worth. In my book, the Bible, that is highly immoral. Using elected office to line one’s pockets – and kill hundreds of thousands of people in the process – is considered immoral in the Christian religion. And George Walker Bush said he’s accepted Jesus Christ as his Savior. Well, he will definitely need forgiveness. As far as the myth that George Walker Bush is somehow pro-life – it’s total B.S. He had an abortion himself when he was younger, and he knows that a middle-class or wealthy woman will ALWAY be able to find a doctor who will perform the dirthy deed. George Walker Bush is just WILLING TO SAY that he is against abortion in order to get elected. That is, he is willing to institute policies that make it so that poor women are more likely to utilize a coat-hanger if they’re not ready bear a child. I need your help in this year 2000 campaign.  I don’t want to live in an America run by oil-men with a history of profiting from war and sacrificing the environment so they and their buddies can make a quick buck. I am always amazed when Christians are deceived by such callous politicians. It is a truly unholy alliance. The Christians – a Christian – has no business voting for Bush, for some of the reasons explained in this essay. Sincerely, Equity P.S. The excerpt below is from a book that was published in the early ’90’s. The allegations are quite startling.  One would think, were their actionable defamation involved, a case would have been brought against the authors of the book, given the extensive financial resources and connections of the Bush family.  E.g. his secretary of state – James Baker – scion of Baker & Botts, a large law-firm in Texas. If someone said the things below about your father or grandfather, wouldn’t you sue him – unless of course they were true ? No litigation associated with defamation has resulted from the publishing of the book excerpted. That’s strange.  The Bush’s brought down the first printing of Hatfield’s "Fortunate Son" in a jiffy, demonstrating no reluctance to utilize legal resources to prevent the be-smirching of the Bush name. I guess when there’s an executive vesting order signed by President Franklin Delano Roosevelt in 1942, seizing the assets of the bank for which father or grandfather was managing director, for the offense of "trading with the enemy" – lending money to Hitler – it’s "KIND OF" hard to argue with. 4 Generations of War Profiteering.  So far only 3 have been enumerated. The 4th is Prescott Bush’s relative, I believe his uncle, George Walker. George Walker was a business associate of IG Farben – the company that made Zyklon B – the gas that was used, among others, in the gas chambers. Hitler’s gas chambers. Not very moral, in my book.  (understatement) That’s what a vote for George Walker Bush and Dick Cheney is a vote for.  War profiteering and skillful manipulation of Christian supporters. Al Gore would make a more honorable Republican President than George Bush.  First of all, he’s fiscally more conservative.  He wants to pay off the National debt.  Bush wants to ignore the debt – 3/4 of which was run up when his father was in office – and give tax breaks to his rich friends. Yes, the 12 years of Reagan-Bush ran the national debt from $1 Trillion to $4 Trillion. Paradoxically, the trend was reversed during the Clinton-Gore administration. A gift from the Internet and the ‘digital revolution’, perhaps. And, though perhaps more boring and less handsome than Mr. Bush, Al Gore is a better family man – in the life he has lived, he has demonstrated a far better understanding of the meaning of the term ‘Family Values’. Yes, both men have made "deals with the devil".  Politics is kind of like that. We aren’t voting for sainthood.  We are voting for United States President. The question is, who has made fewer, smaller "deals with the devil" ? The answer, quite demonstrably, is Al Gore and Joe Lieberman. Permission to re-print this essay – without modification – is granted to all media organizations.  Should the essay be re-printed, please acknowledge "Trinity" as the author. My best regards, and my best wishes for the future of this planet (*), ~T~ Trinity (*)  For example, 200 years from now, I’d like for there to be good trout-fishing in Idaho. P.S. #2.  Incidentally, the Bible says to "subdue the Earth", acknowledging our Christian obligation as custodian of this planet. The bible does not say to crush the Earth between our thumbs.  Nor does it say, with your vote, to put up a "Notice of Intent to Vacate" the Planet in 100 years. By voting for Bush, one votes for the continued subduction of the environment. And increases the likelihood that our great-great-great-grandchildren will live in a toxic waste dump, with no trout-fishing in Idaho. Frankly,  you could give me all the money in the world.  But if there’s no good salmon fishing, no good trout-fishing, what is that money worth ? George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography — by Webster G. Tarpley & Anton Chaitkin Chapter – II – The Hitler Project Bush Property Seized–Trading with the Enemy In October 1942, ten months after entering World War II, America was preparing its first assault against Nazi military forces. Prescott Bush was managing partner of Brown Brothers Harriman. His 18-year-old son George, the future U.S. President, had just begun training to become a naval pilot. On Oct. 20, 1942, the U.S. government ordered the seizure of Nazi German banking operations in New York City which were being conducted by Prescott Bush. Under the Trading with the Enemy Act, the government took over the Union Banking Corporation, in which Bush was a director. The U.S. Alien Property Custodian seized Union Banking Corp.’s stock shares, all of which were owned by Prescott Bush, E. Roland “ Bunny ” Harriman, three Nazi executives, and two The order seizing the bank “ vests ” (seizes) “ all of the capital stock of Union Banking Corporation, a New York corporation, ” and names the holders of its shares as:      “ E. Roland Harriman–3991 shares ”      [chairman and director of Union Banking Corp. (UBC); this is `` Bunny '' Harriman, described by Prescott Bush as a place holder who didn't get much into banking affairs; Prescott      managed his personal investments]      “ Cornelis Lievense–4 shares ”      [president and director of UBC; New York resident banking functionary for the Nazis]      “ Harold D. Pennington–1 share ”      [treasurer and director of UBC; an office manager employed by Bush at Brown Brothers Harriman]      “ Ray Morris–1 share ”      [director of UBC; partner of Bush and the Harrimans]      “ Prescott S. Bush–1 share ”      [director of UBC, which was co-founded and sponsored by his father-in-law George Walker; senior managing partner for E. Roland Harriman and Averell Harriman]      “ H.J. Kouwenhoven–1 share ”      [director of UBC; organized UBC as the emissary of Fritz Thyssen in negotiations with George Walker and Averell Harriman; managing director of UBC's Netherlands affiliate      under Nazi occupation; industrial executive in Nazi Germany; director and chief foreign financial executive of the German Steel Trust]      “ Johann G. Groeninger–1 share ”      [director of UBC and of its Netherlands affiliate; industrial executive in Nazi Germany]      “ all of which shares are held for the benefit of … members of the Thyssen family, [and] is property of nationals … of a designated enemy country…. ” By Oct. 26, 1942, U.S. troops were under way for North Africa. On Oct. 28, the government issued orders seizing two Nazi front organizations run by the Bush-Harriman bank: the Holland-American Trading Corporation and the U.S. forces landed under … read more »

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