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as a newcomer, what is the difference between a wiccan and a pagan.. sorry to sound naive but would appreciate info.. many thanks Jules
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as a newcomer, what is the difference between a wiccan and a pagan.. sorry to sound naive but would appreciate info.. many thanks Jules
Short answer a Wiccan is one of many pagan paths. Long answer is in the FAQs 
explaining different pagan paths. —
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as a newcomer, what is the difference between a wiccan and a pagan..
The same difference that there is between Baptist and Christian. Wicca is a religion of specific beliefs and practices, whereas paganism covers just about anything that isn’t mainstream religion. Pagans tend to be people with earth/nature based religion, and Wicca is a specific form of that. A lot of people who don’t follow Wicca exactly, but who do have a nature based spirituality embrace the term Wicca to include themselves, so it is not always a perfectly solid line between one who is a Wiccan by belief, and someone who is pagan. There are some things specifically like the Rule of Three (generally meaning negative vibes or spells come back to repay you three times) and the Wiccan Rede which is related, but in basic says that you won’t do something that is harmful to someone else, that are specific to Wicca. But then again, a lot of people use that as a general ‘rule of thumb’ and aren’t specifically Wiccan by practice. Now if you read all this and are confused, go back to my first sentence…guess that is really all I needed to say in the first place, ha ha. FREE pagan/metaphysical newsletter. For info or subscription:
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as a newcomer, what is the difference between a wiccan and a pagan.. sorry to sound naive but would appreciate info.. many thanks Jules
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eh hell, I wouldn’t be posting this query ‘ceptin its late & I’m tired & th night makes me wonder & all that & etc. I’m lookin for a young lady I usta know (late ’80s), inta wicca as a "religion" more’n NEthin else, I’d guess, & I’d like to think still. Called herself (first name) Ecko or Echo, called herself (last name) Spring or Van Dorn. Real first name Nancy, & more’n that I won’t say. Perhaps now livin in th Pacific Northwest (Washington) or (maybe?) Colorado. Not lookin for a lead forwarded to me but if anyone reading this knows th gal in question, do me a favor & give her my email address, I’d like to hear back from her & thanks for yer time.
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You wouldn’t happen to be the legendary George Hayduke, by any chance? eh hell, I wouldn’t be posting this query ‘ceptin its late & I’m tired & th night makes me wonder & all that & etc. I’m lookin for a young lady I usta know (late ’80s), inta wicca as a "religion" more’n NEthin else, I’d guess, & I’d like to think still. Called herself (first name) Ecko or Echo, called herself (last name) Spring or Van Dorn. Real first name Nancy, & more’n that I won’t say. Perhaps now livin in th Pacific Northwest (Washington) or (maybe?) Colorado. Not lookin for a lead forwarded to me but if anyone reading this knows th gal in question, do me a favor & give her my email address, I’d like to hear back from her & thanks for yer time.
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Hello, I recently started studying the works of Scott Cunningham and am practicing to be a Solitaire. I noticed many references to D.M. Kraig’s "Modern Magick" so I purchased it only to become completely confused upon reading it. First off it talks about High Magick and refers to Wicca as Practical Magick.. It doesn’t seem to denounce Wicca but can the two be combined or work in harmony. To some extent Kraig seems to praise the Earth and Nature but does not rely on the Goddess or God. Can anyone offer any comments or answers? I am happy with Wicca but the "High Magickal Arts" also interest me a little. Dazed and confused but still praying Buzz — Merry meet, Merry part, and Merry meet again! PLEASE reply to both
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: Hello, I recently started studying the works of Scott Cunningham and am : practicing to be a Solitaire. I noticed many references to D.M. Kraig’s : "Modern Magick" so I purchased it only to become completely confused : upon reading it. First off it talks about High Magick and refers to : Wicca as Practical Magick.. It doesn’t seem to denounce Wicca but can : the two be combined or work in harmony. To some extent Kraig seems to : praise the Earth and Nature but does not rely on the Goddess or God. : Can anyone offer any comments or answers? I am happy with Wicca : but : the "High Magickal Arts" also interest me a little. What Donald is talking about is the difference between Ceremonial Magick and Wicca. CM is a *much* more ritualistic and demanding practice. It is *not* considered a religion, such as Wicca, because the Magician brings her/his own set of ethics or non-ethics. In a nutshell, CM is all *about* the magick. In Wicca, magick is a *tool* like everything else, *not* the be-all and end-all. Actually, I like most of the CM’s I’ve met. It’s fun plucking the energy lines that compose their circles. <he,he,he BB Marjorie HPs, Our Lady of the Sycamores
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i’m lost…really…in more ways than one, but anyway. i need some sort of answer for this question. i hope i’m not annoying anyone on this newsgroup. sorry if i am. it’s a question about death…after life…that sort of thing. my friend’s sister recently shot herself. she commited suicide. now, i know that a basis for wicca…perhaps paganism in general, i suppose…is, "do what you want as long as you don’t harm anyone" and i’m guessing that includes oneself as well. so, my question is obvious. according to this law, she’s commited a "sin" (for lack of a better word, sorry)…have you any ideas of what’s happened to her? i do believe in a spirit, or soul. i believe it lives on after our physical bodies have persished. i don’t neccessarily believe in hell or heaven…in fact, i’m not sure exactly what i believe. i’m just wondering if anyone can offer any insights into this…good or bad it doesn’t matter…just, please, if you decide to respond, don’t reply with some nicey b.s. you don’t really believe…unless that is what you believe. just what you perceive the truth to be. thank you for any help you offer. i do appreciate it.
Sorry for your loss, Jason. The ancient Celts believed that the spirit was reincarnated, sometimes as a new family member. Until then, the soul was deposited in an Oak tree, hence one of the reasons for their reverence among the Druidic orders and the Celts in general. I find this concept quite peaceful with the knowledge that the spirit is nearby and will be back. — Air muir ’s air tir, Sean of Clan Uisdin If anyone is looking for Sean of Clan Uisdin, he can be found in the bathtub mulling over his thoughts wi’ a dram o’ Glen Ord. … The heroes of the race of Conn are dead, How bitter to our hearts is the grief for them! We shall not live long after them, Perilous we think it to be bereaved of the brotherhood! Cathal MacMhuirich "Well, I’m sick of this room and everyone in it!" – Bender "Everything’s gone wrong since Canada came along!" – MAC (Mothers against Canada)
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In my opinion, we do not evolve from this life until we’ve accomplished all that is set out for us. If we do not get it right, we come back and have to learn it all over again. I feel that your sister will be back, and hopefully, she finds the inner guidance to complete her life’s lessons. I’m sorry for your loss. Blessings of love, light and laughter~~~ Melissa Knowledge is Power, but love is Divine. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i’m lost…really…in more ways than one, but anyway. i need some sort of answer for this question. i hope i’m not annoying anyone on this newsgroup. sorry if i am. it’s a question about death…after life…that sort of thing. my friend’s sister recently shot herself. she commited suicide. now, i know that a basis for wicca…perhaps paganism in general, i suppose…is, "do what you want as long as you don’t harm anyone" and i’m guessing that includes oneself as well. so, my question is obvious. according to this law, she’s commited a "sin" (for lack of a better word, sorry)…have you any ideas of what’s happened to her? i do believe in a spirit, or soul. i believe it lives on after our physical bodies have persished. i don’t neccessarily believe in hell or heaven…in fact, i’m not sure exactly what i believe. i’m just wondering if anyone can offer any insights into this…good or bad it doesn’t matter…just, please, if you decide to respond, don’t reply with some nicey b.s. you don’t really believe…unless that is what you believe. just what you perceive the truth to be. thank you for any help you offer. i do appreciate it. take care, jason
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my friend’s sister recently shot herself. she commited suicide. now, i know that a basis for wicca…perhaps paganism in general, i suppose…is, "do what you want as long as you don’t harm anyone" and i’m guessing that includes oneself as well. so, my question is obvious. according to this law, she’s commited a "sin" (for lack of a better word, sorry)…have you any ideas of
No. There is no concept of sin in the Wiccan religion. She did what she wanted. But perhaps people let her down when she asked for help. If your friend wishes it I will have my spirit friend contact her from the other side to give a message. But I won’t promise you that contact will be made. Let me know, Jason. I’ll leave you with a story. There was this girl I met in St. Louis who was the sister of a friend of mine. She died in a car wreck one week later and stayed with me one week. I don’t know why other than she wanted to know my thoughts about her. Her family was indifferent to her. She explored my thoughts. I thought she was too skinny and the acne on her face was gross. I could not mask these thoughts. Her energy was one of understanding. She let me know that she was lonely and nobody paid attention to her. However, when we met a week ago I had been nice to her and tried to converse with her. I cried with her and she went to the other side.
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Dear Jason. I feel that you are on the right track. We are all spirits. Some of us are living in a physical body. This means that when our physical body dies, there is no loss, there is only freedom at the mundane level. This means that we have our friends and family next to us at all times. We are able to communicate with them when ever we have need or want. We only need to find the method of communication. I also want to impart something regarding suicide. Many people contemplate it. But I feel it is our souls mission to do that which will further our higher self. Sometimes the lessons we need to learn hurt much, but if our higher-self did not think we could not deal with the lesson, we would not be given it in the first place. Look at your friends situation this way then.. if your friend committed suicide, yes their burden was great, but part of their lesson was to live through it (their spirit through the suicide) and remember it for the next life. Perhaps they will come back as a saint, or someone who may be able to help others who are in such misery. Those who are left behind, also suffer. And perhaps that is part of their souls mission, to learn how to survive through and remain who they are, or change, but continue to love and be apart of that which they were sent here to complete. I wish you all the best. Be at peace, and find your mission in life, so that you too may complete yourself. May the love of your friend be felt in you, and may you one day be able to look her in the eye and see that smile that you wish to see again. Hybiscus. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i’m lost…really…in more ways than one, but anyway. i need some sort of answer for this question. i hope i’m not annoying anyone on this newsgroup. sorry if i am. it’s a question about death…after life…that sort of thing. my friend’s sister recently shot herself. she commited suicide. now, i know that a basis for wicca…perhaps paganism in general, i suppose…is, "do what you want as long as you don’t harm anyone" and i’m guessing that includes oneself as well. so, my question is obvious. according to this law, she’s commited a "sin" (for lack of a better word, sorry)…have you any ideas of what’s happened to her? i do believe in a spirit, or soul. i believe it lives on after our physical bodies have persished. i don’t neccessarily believe in hell or heaven…in fact, i’m not sure exactly what i believe. i’m just wondering if anyone can offer any insights into this…good or bad it doesn’t matter…just, please, if you decide to respond, don’t reply with some nicey b.s. you don’t really believe…unless that is what you believe. just what you perceive the truth to be. thank you for any help you offer. i do appreciate it. take care, jason
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hi 1. "do what you want as long as you don’t harm anyone" does not say, that doing harm is a "sin". it goes with another wiccan saying, that things you do return to you. (thats basic magig belief.) so if you harm others, you’ll feel harmed yourself. thus doing harm is not a sin but it may harm yourself. 2. she’ll be ok 3. the interesting question, as i read your post, seems to be: why do you worry about "sin" and where she is ? so how do you cope with the situation ? fokus on that & you’ll be ok as well take care, sven – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i’m lost…really…in more ways than one, but anyway. i need some sort of answer for this question. i hope i’m not annoying anyone on this newsgroup. sorry if i am. it’s a question about death…after life…that sort of thing. my friend’s sister recently shot herself. she commited suicide. now, i know that a basis for wicca…perhaps paganism in general, i suppose…is, "do what you want as long as you don’t harm anyone" and i’m guessing that includes oneself as well. so, my question is obvious. according to this law, she’s commited a "sin" (for lack of a better word, sorry)…have you any ideas of what’s happened to her? i do believe in a spirit, or soul. i believe it lives on after our physical bodies have persished. i don’t neccessarily believe in hell or heaven…in fact, i’m not sure exactly what i believe. i’m just wondering if anyone can offer any insights into this…good or bad it doesn’t matter…just, please, if you decide to respond, don’t reply with some nicey b.s. you don’t really believe…unless that is what you believe. just what you perceive the truth to be. thank you for any help you offer. i do appreciate it. take care, jason
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i’m lost…really…in more ways than one, but anyway. i need some sort of answer for this question. i hope i’m not annoying anyone on this newsgroup. sorry if i am. it’s a question about death…after life…that sort of thing. my friend’s sister recently shot herself. she commited suicide. now, i know that a basis for wicca…perhaps paganism in general, i suppose…is, "do what you want as long as you don’t harm anyone" and i’m guessing that includes oneself as well. so, my question is obvious. according to this law, she’s commited a "sin" (for lack of a better word, sorry)…have you any ideas of what’s happened to her? i do believe in a spirit, or soul. i believe it lives on after our physical bodies have persished. i don’t neccessarily believe in hell or heaven…in fact, i’m not sure exactly what i believe. i’m just wondering if anyone can offer any insights into this…good or bad it doesn’t matter…just, please, if you decide to respond, don’t reply with some nicey b.s. you don’t really believe…unless that is what you believe. just what you perceive the truth to be. thank you for any help you offer. i do appreciate it.
You cannot escape with suicide. My mother had to be told she was dead after she suicided. By this I meant she kept coming to my dreams till I told her she was dead.. She then came no more.. HTH BirdTribe take care, jason
– * Nature is the most politically explosive issue in the world *
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Dear Slategreysky, I am sorry for your earthly loss but your friend’s sister. I believe her spirit is safe and in a healing place. HUGS Soleil Noir
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i’m lost…really…in more ways than one, but anyway. i need some sort of answer for this question. i hope i’m not annoying anyone on this newsgroup. sorry if i am. it’s a question about death…after life…that sort of thing. my friend’s sister recently shot herself. she commited suicide. now, i know that a basis for wicca…perhaps paganism in general, i suppose…is, "do what you want as long as you don’t harm anyone" and i’m guessing that includes oneself as well. so, my question is obvious. according to this law, she’s commited a "sin" (for lack of a better word, sorry)…have you any ideas of what’s happened to her? i do believe in a spirit, or soul. i believe it lives on after our physical bodies have persished. i don’t neccessarily believe in hell or heaven…in fact, i’m not sure exactly what i believe. i’m just wondering if anyone can offer any insights into this…good or bad it doesn’t matter…just, please, if you decide to respond, don’t reply with some nicey b.s. you don’t really believe…unless that is what you believe. just what you perceive the truth to be. thank you for any help you offer. i do appreciate it. take care, jason
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i’m lost…really…in more ways than one, but anyway. i need some sort of answer for this question. i hope i’m not annoying anyone on this newsgroup. sorry if i am. it’s a question about death…after life…that sort of thing. my friend’s sister recently shot herself. she commited suicide. now, i know that a basis for wicca…perhaps paganism in general, i suppose…is, "do what you want as long as you don’t harm anyone" and i’m guessing that includes oneself as well. so, my question is obvious. according to this law, she’s commited a "sin" (for lack of a better word, sorry)…have you any ideas of what’s happened to her? i do believe in a spirit, or soul. i believe it lives on after our physical bodies have persished. i don’t neccessarily believe in hell or heaven…in fact, i’m not sure exactly what i believe. i’m just wondering if anyone can offer any insights into this…good or bad it doesn’t matter…just, please, if you decide to respond, don’t reply with some nicey b.s. you don’t really believe…unless that is what you believe. just what you perceive the truth to be. thank you for any help you offer. i do appreciate it. take care, jason
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I am not exactly sure what religion I am and am wondering. I believe that a force call it mother nature if you want rules over the world including man. I also believe that there is another force that governs such things as spirits etc. Nature rules the physical and this other force rules the spiritual. They both work together. I also believe that one is male and the other female. so my question is simply this, is this wicca or druidism or what?
Can we start a creation theory debate here? I believe the universe as a whole is a kind of balanced mass of various polarised energies which form, in various mixtures, the parts of the universe. Some of these energies form into bodies (Such as our own) and each of these bodies contains elements of the Physical, Mental and Spirtual (Or emotional, if you prefer). The earth on which we stand is the physical manifestation of our own mother goddess. We are formed from parts of her body, we gain our life and sustainance from her and when we die, we return to her (And rot and become kinda gooie). However, the earth is not alone in our creation. Without the sun (The big glowing thing, not the tabloid newspaper) the earth could not sustain life or even create it. So, in a way, the sun stands like our father, impregnating the mother to give us the bodies we use throughout our short lives. This is all my own personal opinions and conclusions which I have come to over my few years as a Pagan, and my even fewer years as a Wiccan. Why did I turn against Catholicicicicicicsm (How do you stop spelling that)? Cos the number of paradoxes I found where Science could not back up the yapping of the local priests. I can hold science, I can touch science, I can feel science. But everyone seemed to try their damndest to make sure I couldn’t touch God through science, and that chipped away at any faith I ever had. I never turned my back on the Christian god or even Jesus. I don’t believe the church represents god, I believe it represents man trying to play god (And, in the case of Catholicism, I mean MAN, not MANkind). Anyway, I’m too tired to get into anti-dogma rantings so I’ll bugger off and get some food now. Blessed be, Dr Zip.
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Hello, I am not exactly sure what religion I am and am wondering. I believe that a force call it mother nature if you want rules over the world including man. I also believe that there is another force that governs such things as spirits etc. Nature rules the physical and this other force rules the spiritual. They both work together. I also believe that one is male and the other female. so my question is simply this, is this wicca or druidism or what? John
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Hello, I am not exactly sure what religion I am and am wondering. I believe that a force call it mother nature if you want rules over the world including man. I also believe that there is another force that governs such things as spirits etc. Nature rules the physical and this other force rules the spiritual. They both work together. I also believe that one is male and the other female. so my question is simply this, is this wicca or druidism or what?
Neither, really. I think you’ve just created a rather original and valid Earth Religion theology.
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Dear John, Wiccans don’t believe that we are "ruled" by the Gods, and we don’t think that one Diety controls the material world while the other controls the non-material realms. You are correct in assuming that we worship both male and female Dieties. In our most common rituals, we worship both the God and Goddess. There are other times when we may call upon just one of Them. Holiday
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i was wondering how witchcraft views suicide. a friend just killed himself and it brought up the thought. thanks ~cristine
Well I hope you are dealing well with the loss. He killed himself because he wanted to escape the pain of living. He did what he wanted to do. I believe that he will be reborn in order to give life another chance. There will be no reward or punishment. There will only be renewal. — http://members.tripod.com/ren1999
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i was wondering how witchcraft views suicide. a friend just killed
himself and it brought up the thought. thanks ~cristine<< "Witchcraft" doesn’t have a view on anything, and individual witches are going to have different views. A lot of witches, myself included, believe in reincarnation. Personally, I think that in each lifetime we are given many opportunities to learn and progress. The lessons we do not learn are repeated over and over (over many lifetimes if necessary) until we do learn. When a life is cut short, whether by illness, accident or suicide, I can’t help but think that, for whatever reason, that person was in a position of being unable to learn further in this lifetime, so instead of spending more time in this one they move on to the next. However, I do not believe that death is pre-ordained. We have control over actions and decisions. Much suicide is preventable, and especially with young, healthy people the rest of us have an obligation to be alert and offer help when we can so that the suicidal person doesn’t decide they must leave this lifetime in order to progress. Peggy B.
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thank you all so very much for youe replies. im just not sure how i feel on this issue. i know in some religions it is viewed rather horribly and stuff. anyways thank you for your views…. ~cristine ~~~there is a devil clutching at my feet, as i see the angels so far out of my reach. if i could be forgiven for a single sin, i would burn alive to know you again~~~
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i was wondering how witchcraft views suicide. a friend just killed himself and it brought up the thought. thanks ~cristine
Dear Cristine, My condolences on your loss. My path is on the border between Seax~Wicca and Asatru. I feel he will end up meeting Queen Hela and have to review his life not in a judgemental way like the christian view of hell but in a matter of fact way and then in time he will have to do it all over again to learn what he did not the first time. The reason that he would meet Hela is that those not selected to go to the halls of the other gods like Valhalla go to Hela’s realm to rest before returning. Her realm also named Hel is nothing like the christian version of suffering but more like the a summerland for those not taken by the other gods.I hope this helps. Merry Meet and Wassail, Mansurin Shadowwolf
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i was wondering how witchcraft views suicide. a friend just killed himself and it brought up the thought. thanks ~cristine ~~~there is a devil clutching at my feet, as i see the angels so far out of my reach. if i could be forgiven for a single sin, i would burn alive to know you again~~~
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Well as has often been stated so many of us have so many diverse views that no two answers will be alike. I believe that when we die we return to the place where we came from. In that place you look long and hard at your life and the lessons you learned. You learn from what went on and you then decide whether the lessons you learned are the ones you set for yourself when you joined those on earth. Because suicide is so harmful to those left behind I believe that we all choose to pay a heavy price for it. That price is not thrust upon us. I have some vague ideas about what that price may entail, but I will not go into it. I believe we rest for a time, and learn for a time and either choose to return to this earth or move forward on the other side. Rest assured tho that your friend is not suffering in the fiery pits at this time and indeed may be with you, comforting you and helping you. What is important now is you and those that knew and loved your friend. You are not responsible and you must not let the pain of what your friend went through hold you from your dreams and goals. May the Goddess grant you sleep and peace and the knowledge that you are loved. — Nancy Liedel ICQ# 10148690 "Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." Murial Strode
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First…. my condolences at your loss. Loosing a friend is never easy, and even less so under such circumstances. I can only approach the subject from my own point of view. Other Witches may view it very differently. In the case of a painful, terminal, debilitating illness… I can fully understand the choice to end ones own life with dignity. In many other instances, I am often struck by a sense of "waste" when someone takes their own life. Its the old adage that suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Not being in that particular person’s shoes, however, makes it impossible for me to "judge" them for their very personal decision. I do think, though, that the people they leave behind can be devastated and wrecked by the event. It is not only the person who dies that is affected by such a choice. As for the afterlife, I agree with Nancy’s views. I don’t believe that suicide buys you a trip to hell. It just deprives you of the chance to make a little piece of heaven here on earth this time around. Blessings, Weyland – — Haggis… its not just for breakfast any more. The Celtic Homestead -(Home of the ARW Photo Page) http://members.xoom.com/celtic_farm —–BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE—– Version: PGP 5.5.3ckt iQA/AwUBN65XI7FudZtFYOFtEQK9CACg3IhzdBUHSkZlFeQqoyFHjz7F6RsAn3Tz J1xfvpjUIqTlfc0iJqnLpl+u =z1w+ —–END PGP SIGNATURE—–
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Phythagoras, who as we all know worshipped Apollo, was convinced that eating protien was bad. He thought that meats and legumes should be abstained from. Curiously, priests during the early days of the Roman Republic, whom later historians say worshipped Jupiter, had the same policy of protien avoidance. I have never attempted to deprive myself of amino acids for long enough to experience the full-fledged psychological effects, but I am assuming that it must provide a somewhat psychedelic effect.
So… where is the question? R.
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I have never attempted to deprive myself of amino acids for long enough to experience the full-fledged psychological effects, but I am assuming that it must provide a somewhat psychedelic effect.
On the contrary, a protein-deficient diet causes your body first to consume so-called "voluntary muscle tissue" (i.e., the musculature that you control — arms, legs, etc.), then to begin consuming so-called "involuntary muscle tissue" (e.g., your heart and the rest of your cardiovascular system). A protein-deficient diet makes you WEAK. The last stages of a protein deficient diet are delirium complicated by toxemia as your kidneys and liver fail. I am *not* qualified to provide medical opinions, but I eat well. Some people do not agree with my opinions. I am *not* a Wiccan, a witch, a Pagan or a satanist. I am a single man who lives alone in his private home. My home is my sanctuary. Come as a friend or don’t come at all. Moms split. No players in I owns. M-y 0-p-in-i-ons. Richard Ballard MSEE CNA4 KD0AZ — Consultant specializing in computer networks, imaging & security Listed as rjballard in "Friends & Favorites" at www.amazon.com Last review: "Will: The Autobiography of G. Gordon Liddy"
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Why? golwg Matthew – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – R.
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Hehehe Lush
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Phythagoras, who as we all know worshipped Apollo, was convinced that eating protien was bad. He thought that meats and legumes should be abstained from. Curiously, priests during the early days of the Roman Republic, whom later historians say worshipped Jupiter, had the same policy of protien avoidance. I have never attempted to deprive myself of amino acids for long enough to experience the full-fledged psychological effects, but I am assuming that it must provide a somewhat psychedelic effect.
Hehehe…. Given some of the postings from alt.vegan, I’d say your hypothesis has merit and potential, indeed…. ;] Seriously, though….. In many diverse cultures, fasting is a common tool used to cause "visions" of one kind or another. I would certainly not recommend one take it lightly, nor try to do so without discussing it with one’s doctor first. Also, if one tries fasting, one should remember that fluids don’t count as food — plenty of fluids are necessary to ensure a safe fast.
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Oh, gawd. I hate it when Dick makes a valid point. Thank the fates, it happens so rarely.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have never attempted to deprive myself of amino acids for long enough to experience the full-fledged psychological effects, but I am assuming that it must provide a somewhat psychedelic effect. On the contrary, a protein-deficient diet causes your body first to consume so-called "voluntary muscle tissue" (i.e., the musculature that you control — arms, legs, etc.), then to begin consuming so-called "involuntary muscle tissue" (e.g., your heart and the rest of your cardiovascular system). A protein-deficient diet makes you WEAK. The last stages of a protein deficient diet are delirium complicated by toxemia as your kidneys and liver fail. I am *not* qualified to provide medical opinions, but I eat well. Some people do not agree with my opinions. I am *not* a Wiccan, a witch, a Pagan or a satanist. I am a single man who lives alone in his private home. My home is my sanctuary. Come as a friend or don’t come at all. Moms split. No players in I owns. M-y 0-p-in-i-ons. Richard Ballard MSEE CNA4 KD0AZ — Consultant specializing in computer networks, imaging & security Listed as rjballard in "Friends & Favorites" at www.amazon.com Last review: "Will: The Autobiography of G. Gordon Liddy"
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Merry Meet, Tinne. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As to a spell, I’ve never come across one. If anyone has, I’d love to hear as well. Collin White Not quite a spell, but one of the forms of projective charisma is that of a truth catalyst. An Olavic talent, these folks were often part of the servants of an Olave, and were in the court when disputes were being heard. It is a rather rare talent, but like any talent, although you can learn to use it if you have it, if you don’t have it, you can’t force it. Ever find yourself deciding not to tell someone something and then spilling it anyway? Ever find yourself telling folks things you are oathbound to keep secret, but not realizing you told until after the fact? You may have been in the presence of a truth catalyst. This is not a talent that is well known because it is so subtle, and that may also include the catalyst themselves. However, modernly it is a very useful talent for someone who is in the mental health field or working with small children.
It’s a good thing I’m not paranoid, or this would really get me going. However, as a lover of secrets I do find the thought somewhat disturbing. Collin White MWI S* W++ N+(++) PCE+++ A a+++ C G+ Q 666 Y-
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As to a spell, I’ve never come across one. If anyone has, I’d love to hear as well. Collin White
Not quite a spell, but one of the forms of projective charisma is that of a truth catalyst. An Olavic talent, these folks were often part of the servants of an Olave, and were in the court when disputes were being heard. It is a rather rare talent, but like any talent, although you can learn to use it if you have it, if you don’t have it, you can’t force it. Ever find yourself deciding not to tell someone something and then spilling it anyway? Ever find yourself telling folks things you are oathbound to keep secret, but not realizing you told until after the fact? You may have been in the presence of a truth catalyst. This is not a talent that is well known because it is so subtle, and that may also include the catalyst themselves. However, modernly it is a very useful talent for someone who is in the mental health field or working with small children.
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are there spells to stop people around you from lying?
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Merry Meet, all. are there spells to stop people around you from lying?
You can usually tell from someone’s aura if they are lying, though if someone is really good at lying (to the point of method acting) then even that won’t help. As to a spell, I’ve never come across one. If anyone has, I’d love to hear as well. — Collin White MWI S* W++ N+(++) PCE++ D A a+++ C G+ Q 666 Y-
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I have been following this and other news groups for a few weeks, and as is no doubt obvious, this is my first experience with them so bare with me if i make any "etiquette" mistakes. anyway, my question is, I was a practicing wiccan when i was younger 10 or so years ago. I still heartedly believe in the theory and spiritual side but haven’t studied or anything for years and i was wondering if it has changed as much as it appears. when i was practicing i ws taught that every ritual should come from you that it didn’t matter really what the ritual was or how you performed it as long as it was magical to you. most every one i knew studied all pagan ways and took what they wanted from each, so actually each coven or even solitary had their own path or tradition. it seem that it is not that way any longer, am i mistaken? or is pagan falling into the same trap christianity did? do most stick strictly to one way? i have actually talked to people who compare say wiccan and druidism as one is right and the other wrong. what happened to the wicca i came to know and love? please someone tell me it is still there i just am looking in the wrong place!
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Fortunatly its not true for most groups, "their is no one true way, " still stands as a basic precept for any pagan, following your own path is still something that is respected in most situations. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I have been following this and other news groups for a few weeks, and as is no doubt obvious, this is my first experience with them so bare with me if i make any "etiquette" mistakes. anyway, my question is, I was a practicing wiccan when i was younger 10 or so years ago. I still heartedly believe in the theory and spiritual side but haven’t studied or anything for years and i was wondering if it has changed as much as it appears. when i was practicing i ws taught that every ritual should come from you that it didn’t matter really what the ritual was or how you performed it as long as it was magical to you. most every one i knew studied all pagan ways and took what they wanted from each, so actually each coven or even solitary had their own path or tradition. it seem that it is not that way any longer, am i mistaken? or is pagan falling into the same trap christianity did? do most stick strictly to one way? i have actually talked to people who compare say wiccan and druidism as one is right and the other wrong. what happened to the wicca i came to know and love? please someone tell me it is still there i just am looking in the wrong place! [ A MIME text / x-vcard part was included here. ]
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