Christianity QA

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I would like to commend the Netherlands on steps taken toward legalising euthanasia. I believe the most important teaching of Jesus is the teaching that we should love our neighbours as ourselves. If someone truely wishes to end their life to escape from suffering, and there is clearly no way for them to live a life free from suffering, I believe assisting them attain their wish is in accordance with this teaching, so we should help them do so. Peter

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Excuse me????  Murdering someone is what God wants us to do??  Are you real man??  ONLY God has the power and the authority to tell us when our time on this planet is over, not YOU, not ME, not anyone!! Daisy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I would like to commend the Netherlands on steps taken toward legalising euthanasia. I believe the most important teaching of Jesus is the teaching that we should love our neighbours as ourselves. If someone truely wishes to end their life to escape from suffering, and there is clearly no way for them to live a life free from suffering, I believe assisting them attain their wish is in accordance with this teaching, so we should help them do so. Peter

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Excuse me????  Murdering someone is what God wants us to do??  Are you real man??  ONLY God has the power and the authority to tell us when our time on this planet is over, not YOU, not ME, not anyone!!

Maybe it’s God intention to pull the plug? God works in mysterious ways, which includes using humans. God knew about the holocaust before it even happened. He knew about euthanasia. He created us. Things that we do to each other have to be part of his plan, or else we are saying that we have the ability to prove God infallible, thus negating all of existence. Hope that helps, and have a nice day.

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NOPE God would never put that kind of authority in our hands to take the life of another…didn’t work, anything else ya wanna send my way? Daisy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Excuse me????  Murdering someone is what God wants us to do??  Are you real man??  ONLY God has the power and the authority to tell us when our time on this planet is over, not YOU, not ME, not anyone!! Maybe it’s God intention to pull the plug? God works in mysterious ways, which includes using humans. God knew about the holocaust before it even happened. He knew about euthanasia. He created us. Things that we do to each other have to be part of his plan, or else we are saying that we have the ability to prove God infallible, thus negating all of existence. Hope that helps, and have a nice day.

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You read the Bible dude?  Thou shalt not KILL…does that mean anything to you?  Obviously not….now unless you have anything better to throw at me…go crawl into the corner you came out of. Daisy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ONLY God has the power and the authority to tell us when our time on this planet is over. God gave us the power to end our own lives. By doing so he also gave us the authority.  Peter I would like to commend the Netherlands on steps taken toward legalising euthanasia. I believe the most important teaching of Jesus is the teaching that we should love our neighbours as ourselves. If someone truely wishes to end their life to escape from suffering, and there is clearly no way for them to live a life free from suffering, I believe assisting them attain their wish is in accordance with this teaching, so we should help them do so. Peter

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ONLY God has the power and the authority to tell us when our time on this planet is over.

God gave us the power to end our own lives. By doing so he also gave us the authority.  Peter – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I would like to commend the Netherlands on steps taken toward legalising euthanasia. I believe the most important teaching of Jesus is the teaching that we should love our neighbours as ourselves. If someone truely wishes to end their life to escape from suffering, and there is clearly no way for them to live a life free from suffering, I believe assisting them attain their wish is in accordance with this teaching, so we should help them do so. Peter

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JMJ No!  God also gave us the "power" to end others’ lives… and to steal… That does NOT mean He gave us the "authority" to do so. Murder is murder.  Plain and simple. SLG

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ONLY God has the power and the authority to tell us when our time on this planet is over. God gave us the power to end our own lives. By doing so he also gave us the authority.  Peter I would like to commend the Netherlands on steps taken toward legalising euthanasia. I believe the most important teaching of Jesus is the teaching that we should love our neighbours as ourselves. If someone truely wishes to end their life to escape from suffering, and there is clearly no way for them to live a life free from suffering, I believe assisting them attain their wish is in accordance with this teaching, so we should help them do so. Peter

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NOPE God would never put that kind of authority in our hands to take the life of another…didn’t work, anything else ya wanna send my way?

Geez, tell that to the serial killer looking at you through your window right now. If he wants to kill you, he can. God’s not going to do anything to stop him, so in fact he has given him the authority to do so, but he may have to pay the price later. Hope that helps, and have a nice day.

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hahaha…you really are from the caveman days aren’t you?  No one has the authority to take anyones life but God himself…keep trying dude, you’re entertaining if nothing else…… Let’s look at the definition of "authority" shall we? Websters defines authority as "persons in command" now I guess the person killing the other person is in command of "himself" in the long run, the only one in command of everything is GOD.  Thus you do not have the right to take a life when it was GOD that gave life.  Now put on your thinking cap and think real hard, I’m sure you’ll see what I’m talking about. Daisy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – NOPE God would never put that kind of authority in our hands to take the life of another…didn’t work, anything else ya wanna send my way? Geez, tell that to the serial killer looking at you through your window right now. If he wants to kill you, he can. God’s not going to do anything to stop him, so in fact he has given him the authority to do so, but he may have to pay the price later. Hope that helps, and have a nice day.

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Murder is murder.  Plain and simple.

True, murder is murder. But acting out of compassion to help someone who wants to end their life to do so, is not murder. Peter – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I would like to commend the Netherlands on steps taken toward legalising euthanasia. I believe the most important teaching of Jesus is the teaching that we should love our neighbours as ourselves. If someone truely wishes to end their life to escape from suffering, and there is clearly no way for them to live a life free from suffering, I believe assisting them attain their wish is in accordance with this teaching, so we should help them do so. Peter

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Thus you do not have the right to take a life when it was GOD that gave life.

If that is the case, then you have no right to eat plants or animals, so you would have to starve to death. Peter

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YES it is.  No other way about it.  Keep trying, maybe you’ll get the idea someday. Daisy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Murder is murder.  Plain and simple. True, murder is murder. But acting out of compassion to help someone who wants to end their life to do so, is not murder. Peter I would like to commend the Netherlands on steps taken toward legalising euthanasia. I believe the most important teaching of Jesus is the teaching that we should love our neighbours as ourselves. If someone truely wishes to end their life to escape from suffering, and there is clearly no way for them to live a life free from suffering, I believe assisting them attain their wish is in accordance with this teaching, so we should help them do so. Peter

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Thus you do not have the right to take a life when it was GOD that gave life. If that is the case, then you have no right to eat plants or animals, so you would have to starve to death.

Aaaah !  But God gave us the authority to do that – it is written in the Bible.  God never gave us authority to kill another human being.  Another god, maybe, but not the Christian God, the one we worship. God bless, Stephen — — Stephen Korsman "When I find myself in times of trouble, Mother Mary comes to me"  – Let it be, The Beatles

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I agree with you Stephan….but it wasn’t me who wrote that message! Daisy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thus you do not have the right to take a life when it was GOD that gave life. If that is the case, then you have no right to eat plants or animals, so you would have to starve to death. Aaaah !  But God gave us the authority to do that – it is written in the Bible.  God never gave us authority to kill another human being.  Another god, maybe, but not the Christian God, the one we worship. God bless, Stephen — — Stephen Korsman "When I find myself in times of trouble, Mother Mary comes to me"  – Let it be, The Beatles

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I agree with you Stephan….but it wasn’t me who wrote that message!

I know.  Peter did.  But I am glad you take the sensible and Christian view. Killing the terminally ill will eventually end up with us killing the unwanted, the insane, the old and frail, those over 60, anyone with a deformity, even the Jews. Mother Theresa had something to say, a good quote, along the lines of "what makes a nation strong is the way it treats it’s weak."  I don’t have it right – she said it a lot better. God bless, Stephen — — Stephen Korsman http://home.global.co.za/~skorsman/index.html "Peace is not the absence of war, it is the presence of God."

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Keep trying

Ok. I would like to commend the Netherlands on steps taken toward legalising euthanasia. I believe the most important teaching of Jesus is the teaching that we should love our neighbours as ourselves. If someone truely wishes to end their life to escape from suffering, and there is clearly no way for them to live a life free from suffering, I believe assisting them attain their wish is in accordance with this teaching, so we should help them do so. Peter

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But I am glad you take the sensible and Christian view.

I don’t believe it is right to force someone to continue to suffer in agony, when they they have had enough of it and have decided they want to end their lives. A person who insists on that is not following the command "Love your neighbour". Killing the terminally ill will eventually end up with us killing the unwanted, the insane, the old and frail, those over 60, anyone with a deformity, even the Jews.

Euthanasia is not about killing the terminally ill. It is about helping people who wish to end their lives because they are suffering, to do so. Mother Theresa had something to say, a good quote, along the lines of "what makes a nation strong is the way it treats it’s weak."  I don’t have it right – she said it a lot better.

When people in the care of Mother Theresa begged to be allowed to die because their pain was unbearable, she did nothing to help. That is a sadistic way to treat the weak. Peter

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If that is the case, then you have no right to eat plants or animals, so you would have to starve to death. Aaaah !  But God gave us the authority to do that – it is written in the Bible.  God never gave us authority to kill another human being.  Another god, maybe, but not the Christian God, the one we worship.

But everyone knows the Bible was written by humans, thus the authority to eat plants and animals is simply the authority given by humans to humans. If that is Ok,  then we can equally give ourselves the authority to assist those who wish to end their lives to do so. Why should 20th century law makers consider themselves inferior to Biblical prophets in this regard? Peter

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When one reads the words of our God, one will, very frequently find, the words, "and it came to pass."  And there in is a truth, that ever one, ever where, lives by, with each passing moment. For no person, knows how to start, or stop time. So we all, do live, and at some time, will die. And many of the things, we plan, for our futures, do not come to pass. Why? There is only one answer, we do not know. For who among us people can stop time. And, therein, is the truth of these words. And, as we admit these many, quoted words of truth, we do find with them, many more words of truth. both good and bad. And it is only by being obedient to our God’s way and will, that we may separate ourselves, from the bad, and do good. So, seek ye first the kingdom of God, and God’s rightness, (obediences) and all blessing will be given to You. True! Father God: Do open the minds, of many people today, to these truths. For as people, there are so very many things, in this, world that people, can not control. And this truth alone, is reason, for each one, person to stop, and seriously try, to determine, where they are going. And when they realize, they may not go. Turn to the only answer, created and controls, our future, You God!  And as they experience blessings, they too, will worship, thank and praise You as their loving God, So is it, and will it be, forever, Amen. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If that is the case, then you have no right to eat plants or animals, so you would have to starve to death. Aaaah !  But God gave us the authority to do that – it is written in the Bible.  God never gave us authority to kill another human being.  Another god, maybe, but not the Christian God, the one we worship. But everyone knows the Bible was written by humans, thus the authority to eat plants and animals is simply the authority given by humans to humans. If that is Ok,  then we can equally give ourselves the authority to assist those who wish to end their lives to do so. Why should 20th century law makers consider themselves inferior to Biblical prophets in this regard? Peter

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If that is the case, then you have no right to eat plants or animals, so you would have to starve to death. Aaaah !  But God gave us the authority to do that – it is written in the Bible.  God never gave us authority to kill another human being.  Another god, maybe, but not the Christian God, the one we worship. But everyone knows the Bible was written by humans, thus the authority to eat plants and animals is simply the authority given by humans to humans.

Obviously you don’t believe that the Bible is the word of God.  That is the point of view I was taking.  I don’t think your position would hold much water from a pure atheistic point of view either – atheism can make darn good case for pro-life.  But I am not clued up on that enough to continue this line of thought. God bless, Stephen — — Stephen Korsman http://home.global.co.za/~skorsman/index.html The owls are not what they seem

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But I am glad you take the sensible and Christian view. I don’t believe it is right to force someone to continue to suffer in agony, when they they have had enough of it and have decided they want to end their lives. A person who insists on that is not following the command "Love your neighbour".

Nope.  We should love our terminally ill neighbour and give them something to live for.  It’s not easy, but its the Christian way of doing things. Terminating them is simply a cop out, an excuse to lessen our troubles. That never was the Christian way. Killing the terminally ill will eventually end up with us killing the unwanted, the insane, the old and frail, those over 60, anyone with a deformity, even the Jews. Euthanasia is not about killing the terminally ill. It is about helping people who wish to end their lives because they are suffering, to do so.

Same thing.  In our country, the draft of the law that will soon come into effect states that someone incapable of consent can be terminated if two doctors agree.  To me that’s just sick.  Many of my colleagues would do that, but most, myself included, would not. Mother Theresa had something to say, a good quote, along the lines of "what makes a nation strong is the way it treats it’s weak."  I don’t have it right – she said it a lot better. When people in the care of Mother Theresa begged to be allowed to die because their pain was unbearable, she did nothing to help. That is a sadistic way to treat the weak.

I don’t think so.  She never gained pleasure from it, therefore it is not sadism.  She loved them and let them know they were loved.  When one starts killing one’s weak, one is no better than an animal. Final note: I despise such topics, so please forgive me if I don’t respond. You do have an intelligent point of view, and I respect that.  I still think it is utterly wrong.  But while I can argue till the cows come home on Mary and the Pope and the Mass, things like this I really don’t like. God bless, Stephen — — Stephen Korsman http://home.global.co.za/~skorsman/index.html "Peace is not the absence of war, it is the presence of God."

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If someone truely wishes to end their life to escape from suffering, and there is clearly no way for them to live a life free from suffering, I believe assisting them attain their wish is in accordance with this teaching, so we should help them do so.

Peter, I see your point, but tell me something.  Who decides that there is no way for someone to live a life free of suffering?  How much suffering is enough to legitimize suicide? If I go blind in an accident today, I will suffer for the rest of my life from a lack of sight.  Is it OK for me to kill myself in that case? How about if my two-year-old daughter gets hit by a car and dies.  I would suffer immensely from that occurrence, and nothing would ever bring my daughter back to life.  Would it be OK to kill myself then? How about a teenager who is an outcast at school, who feels his parents don’t understand him, who is miserable.  He’s suffering.  He doesn’t think life will get any better, and you can’t convince him otherwise. Would you help him kill himself? As Stephen Korsman wisely said earlier in this thread, much better than ending your life because you find it unbearable is to seek out something that will make it bearable.  Jesus Christ can give hope and peace to everyone regardless of what life sends their way. Derek

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… euthanasia from an Islamic point of view … http://www.homestead.com/everlasting_phenomenon/euthanasia.html

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Peter, don’t get sick or old , coz your neck will be on the chopping block. Remember when abortion was strictly policed and there were very strict reasons for permission to be granted for an abortion??? This euthanasia that you welcome, will one day be to your peril. You won’t want to die, but because you are old or sick…..chop chop to you. Mark my words. —

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This euthanasia that you welcome, will one day be to your peril.

That is a valid concern. However, I believe there will be enough people watching to make sure the system is not abused. Peter. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I would like to commend the Netherlands on steps taken toward legalising euthanasia. I believe the most important teaching of Jesus is the teaching that we should love our neighbours as ourselves. If someone truely wishes to end their life to escape from suffering, and there is clearly no way for them to live a life free from suffering, I believe assisting them attain their wish is in accordance with this teaching, so we should help them do so. Peter

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