Christianity QA

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what do YOU consider the "overall scheme of things" to be?

A final separation between good and evil. The choice is yours when your are called, converted and have hands laid on you and have truly repented and have received God’s Holy Spirit. But in the end, it will be Christ’s decision. And Christ will destroy sinners in the lake of fire — the second death. http://bible.gospelcom.net/bible?passage=Rev+21%3A7-8&version=KJV DRWWARE

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – what do YOU consider the "overall scheme of things" to be? A final separation between good and evil. The choice is yours when your are called, converted and have hands laid on you and have truly repented and have received God’s Holy Spirit. But in the end, it will be Christ’s decision. And Christ will destroy sinners in the lake of fire — the second death. http://bible.gospelcom.net/bible?passage=Rev+21%3A7-8&version=KJV DRWWARE

  "let he who has not sin cast the frist stone" if there are non sinners out there then the Bible is wrong.  And if Jesus casts all sinners into the lak of fire were are majorly screwed.  The mercy is we are all sinners but when we choose christ his blood washes away the sin but we always have sins that we need to have washed away.

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If all homosexuals were put to death, this plague and all its effects would be

removed from society.  Sounds cold but in the overall scheme of things it is the best solution for all concerned. Everytime I read something like this I think of all the angels and heavenly beings who could have said the same thing about sinful man.  Put them all to death, they sinned, and the wages of sin is death.  Thank God He sent His son to save us all instead of doing what you suggest here.

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While I agree, there is the need to remove ALL Sin and to repent, not just the sins of immorality.

Outstanding post, Hoppy. Captain Martin The Gospel Navy www.gospelnavy.com

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If all homosexuals were put to death, this plague and all its effects would be removed from society.  Sounds cold but in the overall scheme of things it is the best solution for all concerned. Everytime I read something like this I think of all the angels and heavenly beings who could have said the same thing about sinful man.  Put them all to death, they sinned, and the wages of sin is death.  Thank God He sent His son to save us all instead of doing what you suggest here.

   Yea, a thinking Christian I’m not the only one that things it has to be tolerated not accepted.  I mean it is a sin but to attack them violently or make them immoral and spread lies about them.  For every gay that sleeps around there are anywhere from 10 to 100 straits that do.  And for every strait person that is monogamist there is probably an corresponding number of gays. " I judge the simple act of a man sleeping with man as he would a woman to be wrong" but that doesn’t mean I some them up into one group that are the same in very respect.

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Should we be-ware of you, DRWWARE? You sound like one ticked off guy. Maybe you should talk this over with somebody. — Contrarius

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The Lord is my Shepherd and He knows I’m Gay http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Heights/1734 What makes you doubt that your Lord hasn’t sent me to WAKE YOU UP and tell you to quit engaging in your filthy abominations which pollute the entire land that He gave us? Or is it that you are worshipping the wrong Lord.  The Lord who can’t fill your mind with His Holy Spirit so that a degrading thought like homosexuality would be an abomination to you.  Your Lord is probably the one so many worhship today and is not the real Jesus Christ but this angel of light — SATAN THE DEVIL!! Now put your filth away and act normal! DRWWARE as in BE-WARE

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what do YOU consider the "overall scheme of things" to be? A final separation between good and evil.

I see…..as in shadowless nothingness, neither side aware of itself.  I’d much rather that you’d said a final balance between good and evil, but I guess your bible doesn’t talk about it much. The choice is yours when your are called, converted and have hands laid on you and have truly repented and have received God’s Holy Spirit.

in your bible either.  To be honest, there’s really not much there at all, is there? But in the end, it will be Christ’s decision.

You really have to dig a little deeper historically, though.  Decision’s have typically been made in his name, but ultimately of our own design. And Christ will destroy sinners in the lake of fire — the second death.

Not going to happen, except in the minds of those who cast judgement, such as yourself.  I expect that your opinion is that all homosexuals who haven’t repented of their sins will be cast into this pit of fire beside all other sinners.  I’d hate to be you is all I can say.  I can’t look at the world, and the life it fills, in this way.  It’s sad that people still entertain themselves with judging others immoral and in need of repentance of the way they choose to live.  I can’t believe in a Christ or a christian god that can’t cast that first stone, either.  Talk is cheap, and the bible is full of it.  What it lacks is an understanding of compassion, acceptance, and equal relationship with all living things, not just the ones who go through life kissing ass a few days a week.  And, on top of that, take the lessons they claim to learn in church and apply them here in the style of Adolf Hitler.  How can I have faith in that?  How can anyone who is on the spiritual path?   At the very least, reread what you started out saying, and for your benefit, watch American History X, Schindler’s List, and the original Pit and the Pendulum.  That is, if your religion allows you to make up your own mind.  Oh, and since we’ve been on the subject of homosexuality, tell me why it is that men are the major target of your judgement?   http://bible.gospelcom.net/bible?passage=Rev+21%3A7-8&version=KJV DRWWARE

psi In your light I learn how to love. In your beauty, how to make poems. You dance inside my chest, where no one sees you, but sometimes I do, and that sight becomes this art"                                   -Rumi Live fast!  Be a spark and glow a while!  You’ll be dead a long, long time!  - Bob Geldof

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Someone typed the following in a post to this newsgroup: Or, as most people believe who have studied the subject most of their lives — something no one in Scripture ever did — homosexuality is just a normal variant in human sexuality… indeed, in the sexuality of a great many other species created by God. J If all homosexuals were put to death, this plague and all its effects would be removed from society.

You don’t know anything about biology … do you !? Sounds cold but in the overall scheme of things it is the best solution for all concerned.

Oh? I think the gay people might be a bit upset about that. And that is not a solution from Adolf Hitler but from your Creator.   Read His book.

In order for him to be my creator, there would have to be evidence of such a fact. There isn’t! He doesn’t wimp out when it comes to getting rid of sin.

Who? Your imaginary sky pixie? We are approaching the Feast of Unleavened Bread which requires that leaven be put out of our homes for 7 days. This pictures the removal of sin in our lives.

Ahhhh. … so, to be perfect and enlightened .. we just have to eat the right kind of bread .. and kill everyone who has a different sexual preference. If you are a homosexual, you had better repent of this sin just as the adulterer needs to repent of his. Hope this helps.

It does. It shows us how dangerous and psychotic "alleged christians" can be.

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Concerning The Vermont Same-Sex Bill… Next issue… Gays in Boy Scouts? The US Supreme Court is debating it now.  Voice your opinion. —News Clipping— Vermont Governor Signs Same-Sex Union Bill April 26, 2000 7:12 pm EST MONTPELIER, Vt. (Reuters) – Vermont’s governor on Wednesday signed landmark legislation granting the full benefits of marriage to same-sex couples in the state. "This is a statement that Vermont values people for who they are, not what they are," Democratic Gov. Howard Dean said after signing the first-in-the-nation law extending virtually all the benefits of marriage to gay and lesbian couples. Under the Vermont law, same-sex couples will be able to enter into a legal institution intended to be the parallel of marriage. They will be able to go to any town clerk for a civil union license which may then be "certified" by a justice of the peace or a willing clergy member. If the union is to be dissolved, the matter will be handled by Vermont’s Family Court just as divorces are, a lawyer involved in the issue said. The civil union law, which will go into effect on July 1, will have no impact on federal law relating to marriage. But it is expected to have a profound effect on many laws in this rural New England state including adoption, inheritance and health care. Dean signed the measure in his office just one day after the Vermont House of Representatives gave its final approval and then held a news conference afterward. "This law defines in statute that marriage is between a man and a woman, which is important to many of the Vermonters we have heard from," he said. "But I believe it also meets the Vermont Supreme Court mandate that gay and lesbian couples receive the same legal rights, benefits and obligations now enjoyed by married couples." In its December ruling, the Vermont Supreme Court said it was up to the legislature how to structure a law, but that the result must offer equal protection to both categories of couples. "It’s great that he signed the bill. It’s nice to know that it’s official," said Gay and Lesbian Advocates & Defenders lawyer Mary Bonauto, one of three attorneys who argued the case of three same-sex couples before the state’s high court. Dean, who runs for re-election in November, has said his office was barraged by some 20,000 letters opposing the measure. "Undoubtedly this will be an election year issue…but the legislators that voted on it didn’t think about politics and, frankly, neither did I…," he said. "This will happen in other states," he predicted. Gay advocate groups also hope Vermont’s moves will have far- reaching ramifications for a growing national debate about the rights of same-sex couples. A nationwide Harris poll conducted in January found that 56 percent of those questioned favored expanding laws that ban discrimination against gays. Bonuato predicted that Vermont’s legislation will be used as a "model by other state legislatures to follow. After this goes into effect, they’ll see that it is good for families, that it makes people happy and feel more secure, that it doesn’t cost states anything and the sky doesn’t fall in." * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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 okay if your sinless I volenteer you to cast the frist stone okay sir.  

I just did! Go and sin no more! DRWWARE

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If all homosexuals were put to death, this plague and all its effects would be removed from society.

I think I’d much rather live among homosexuals than mass murderers who profess to be holy. Sounds cold but in the overall scheme of things it is the best solution for all concerned.

Concerned?  You are concerned?  You sound concerned.  Yes, it IS cold.  By the way, what do YOU consider the "overall scheme of things" to be? And that is not a solution from Adolf Hitler but from your Creator.  

No, this is EXACTLY like what Adolf Hitler was attempting with the Jews!  Are you blind?  Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it.  You might as well have Hitler’s picture in your wallet.  Is that what you want? Read His book.

I’ve read the bible.  I got the message.  If you see in the bible justification for murdering homosexuals, then my advice to you is to get some counseling and burn the book. He doesn’t wimp out when it comes to getting rid of sin.

Please!  Who are you trying to fool?  Murder IS sin, even if your idea of god is behind the whole thing.  Now, come back and talk about tolerance, acceptance, and defending one’s pursuit of happiness, and we can drop this discussion for good.  I’ll be waiting. We are approaching the Feast of Unleavened Bread which requires that leaven be put out of our homes for 7 days. This pictures the removal of sin in our lives.

Good!  I hope you are one to practice what you preach. If you are a homosexual, you had better repent of this sin just as the adulterer needs to repent of his.

If you are christian, you had better repent of your hatred and intolerance for your neighbor, and learn to love your neighbor as yourself.  According to the bible, it is NOT up to us to judge right and wrong, not even as it is written in the bible. This should NOT be your cause as a christian! Hope this helps.

Yes, I hope it does! psi In your light I learn how to love. In your beauty, how to make poems. You dance inside my chest, where no one sees you, but sometimes I do, and that sight becomes this art"                                   -Rumi Live fast!  Be a spark and glow a while!  You’ll be dead a long, long time!  - Bob Geldof

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The Lord is my Shepherd and He knows I’m Gay http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Heights/1734

What makes you doubt that your Lord hasn’t sent me to WAKE YOU UP and tell you to quit engaging in your filthy abominations which pollute the entire land that He gave us? Or is it that you are worshipping the wrong Lord.  The Lord who can’t fill your mind with His Holy Spirit so that a degrading thought like homosexuality would be an abomination to you.  Your Lord is probably the one so many worhship today and is not the real Jesus Christ but this angel of light — SATAN THE DEVIL!! Now put your filth away and act normal! DRWWARE as in BE-WARE

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If all homosexuals were put to death, this plague and all its effects would be removed from society.

How so? — — If we don’t trust her with a choice, how can we trust her with a child? —

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Someone typed the following in a post to this newsgroup: Or, as most people believe who have studied the subject most of their lives — something no one in Scripture ever did — homosexuality is just a normal variant in human sexuality… indeed, in the sexuality of a great many other species created by God. J If all homosexuals were put to death, this plague and all its effects would be removed from society. Sounds cold but in the overall scheme of things it is the best solution for all concerned. And that is not a solution from Adolf Hitler but from your Creator. Read His book. He doesn’t wimp out when it comes to getting rid of sin. We are approaching the Feast of Unleavened Bread which requires that leaven be put out of our homes for 7 days. This pictures the removal of sin in our lives. If you are a homosexual, you had better repent of this sin just as the adulterer needs to repent of his. Hope this helps.

  okay if your sinless I volenteer you to cast the frist stone okay sir.  As a christian and an amirican such an action would be answerable to both god and man’s law.

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Where does the Bible say we are to observe the Feast of the unleavened bread?  

http://bible.gospelcom.net/bible?passage=Lev+23%3A6-8&version=KJV Where does it say to put leaven out of the house for 7 days?

http://bible.gospelcom.net/bible?passage=Ex+12%3A19&version=KJV Indeed when was Christ crucified, that we may at least celebrate at

the right time?   Christ was crucified on the 14th, buried at the end of the 14th day just before sunset and was resurrected 72 hours at the end of the weekly Sabbath.   Could you post the reference that tells us to celebrate "Easter" at all?

No I can’t because Easter is a pagan celebration. The one reference in the Bible to Easter in the King James Version is actually a mistranslation — it should have been Passover instead. We are commanded to keep the Passover and not Easter.   http://bible.gospelcom.net/bible?passage=1Cor+11%3A23-26&version=KJV – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Thanks in advance.

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– Someone typed the following in a post to this newsgroup: – – Or, as most people believe who have studied the subject most of their – lives — something no one in Scripture ever did — homosexuality is just a – normal variant in human sexuality… indeed, in the sexuality of a great – many other species created by God. J – – If all homosexuals were put to death, this plague and all its – effects would be removed from society. – – Sounds cold but in the overall scheme of things it is the best solution – for all concerned. – – And that is not a solution from Adolf Hitler but from your Creator.   – Read His book. – – He doesn’t wimp out when it comes to getting rid of sin. – – We are approaching the Feast of Unleavened Bread which – requires that leaven be put out of our homes for 7 days. – – This pictures the removal of sin in our lives. Ex. 21:12 He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death. Ex. 21:15 And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death. Ex. 21:16 And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death. Ex. 21:17 And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death Ex. 31:14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. Ex. 31:15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. Ex. 35:2 Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death. Lev. 20:9 For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him. Lev. 20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man

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