Christianity QA

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He stops me, and starts ranting about how Christians saved themselves for marriage and that I needed to go to church to give

penitence for my sins and how could I possibly think of such *dirty things*, and as this is going on I think to myself, "Why would I believe in a religion that tries to make you feel guilty about walking into the condom aisle by mistake." <snip As I can see how you would become irate at this person’s outburst, perhaps it is not his belief in God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, but his inability to apply his religious beliefs.  This man has "issues" there is no doubt. But his religion is not to blame. Do you think we could help these poor lost souls if we started handing out flyers about how they too can find PEACE?  Hee, hee.  All joking aside, I hate it that I can not openly share my excitement and love for our Wiccan ways, and that is exactly the reason I try so damn hard to stay respectful of other people’s beliefs.  Next time just say "May the Devine Goddess and God bless your soul!"  I love seeing how people react to that. . .

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I think I need some anti- venin now….. ever thought about therapy for these issues you seem to have? Christians are so fucking arrogant because they think it’s their duty in life to save our souls! I don’t need my soul saved. Fuck I’d rather go to Valhalla and drink and fight in Ragnarok when I die.

Some are, yes. Yaweh is the ultimate sadist! He is so jealous and greedy he doesn’t want people to worship other idols or pictures of people on coins.

Yaweh is God or Jesus?  <I can never figure out the names…. they don’t mean anything to me.  If this is Jesus… please get your statements right… the bible says God doesn’t want you to carve idols… Jesus said nothing of it….. if it Jesus… okie dokie. This is why Catholics are closer to paganism because they believe in idolatry. God is laughing his ass off! He knows we can’t follow his rules because they are impossible not to break. Oh yes we can look at a woman, but we cannot by his sick edicts of puritanism touch and make love to a woman for pleasure. Taste don’t enjoy! Touch, but do not feel! Think, but don’t imagine ect. Talk about sadism and jealousy huh?

Uhmm… in the Old Testament…. it was wuite all right for men to look and touch women…. men were encouraged to have multiple wives…. marriage is a New Testament thing…. same with Puritanism…. the same Puritans who settled North America to escape persecution on English soil. I do agree that the Christian God is sadistic.. who else would put a man through torture for a bet?  And it’s already been established that he’s a jealous god….. what’s your point? -Ronna-

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Yaweh is the ultimate sadist! He is so jealous and greedy he doesn’t want people to worship other idols or pictures of people on coins. This is why Catholics are closer to paganism because they believe in idolatry. God is laughing his ass off! He knows we can’t follow his rules because they are impossible not to break. Oh yes we can look at a woman, but we cannot by his sick edicts of puritanism touch and make love to a woman for pleasure. Taste don’t enjoy! Touch, but do not feel! Think, but don’t imagine ect. Talk about sadism and jealousy huh?

You’ve watched _Devil’s Advocate_ one too many times, dear.  Take a valium. Hawke And floating somewhere between pain and tears, you’re there between my love and fear, where noone hears, and I’ve got nothing, no strength left to watch you fall, nothing left at all…..When you flow through me, surround me and light the dark, brand me and leave your mark, my aching heart, is breaking again. -Ofra Haza, "My Aching Heart" SSB-B Diplomatic Corps – Champaign County, IL

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I really wish I could do that snippet thing, because I definitely saw things in this string I feel are worth commenting on. Anyhow, I digress.  Being someone who is on a path of the spirit, and who largely follows pagan tenets, I have a real problem with all of the pagan-chritian bashing. How come nobody ever mentions Muslims? Probably because you were’nt brought up around it, but 2/3 of the world was, and they have killed as many as the Christians, and are way more influential to thier followers than the Vatican is. Again, I digress. However, Chrisianity and the Muslims have another thing in common- they are both a very definite way towards enlightenment with power, beauty and mysticism galore, only they have been so convoluted by men that they have turned into a deathtrap of rigidity for most followers. We should be open to our Christian brothers and sisters and offer help from stagnation. If we continue to knock them, we perpetuate the situation as it exists. Do you hate a friend when they are sick? C’mon, folks.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I really wish I could do that snippet thing, because I definitely saw things in this string I feel are worth commenting on.  Being someone who is on a path of the spirit, and who largely follows pagan tenets, I have a real problem with all of the pagan-chritian bashing. How come nobody ever mentions Muslims? Probably because you were’nt brought up around it, but 2/3 of the world was, and they have killed as many as the Christians, and are way more influential to thier followers than the Vatican is. Again, I digress. However, Chrisianity and the Muslims have another thing in common- they are both a very definite way towards enlightenment with power, beauty and mysticism galore, only they have been so convoluted by men that they have turned into a deathtrap of rigidity for most followers. We should be open to our Christian brothers and sisters and offer help from stagnation. If we continue to knock them, we perpetuate the situation as it exists. Do you hate a friend when they are sick? C’mon, folks.

1. The Muslims aren’t the ones raging in the streets in front of clinics or holding recruitment rallies in sports stadiums or coming to my door now and then to see if I’ve found Jesus yet. (I haven’t, in case you’re wondering.) 2. While their religion is every bit as misogynistic as Christianity, they tend to confine that aspect to their homes and places like Afghanistan, where an entire nation can suffer at the hands of the Taliban’s theocratic blundering. (Most of the doctors and teachers, for instance, were women, but women are no longer allowed to work publicly.) They aren’t in our faces over here and so go generally unnoticed. 3. While I agree that some forms of religious worship should qualify as mental illness, I am not fond of the idea of associating with those so stricken. Maybe I didn’t make myself clear in previous messages… I don’t hate them. I just don’t want to hang out with them or allow them to dictate the terms by which I must live in this world. — The Original Wicca Works! at:  http://www.atlantic.net/~wiccan/  Articles-Jewelry-Tiles-Chalices-Poetry-ClipArt-Other(!)Stuff       – Four boxes to be used in defense of Liberty:      Soap, Ballot, Jury, and Ammo. Use in that order.

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: Ambrose Bierce defined Christian as one who believes the teachings of Christ : to be admirably suited to the spiritual needs of somebody else; and one who : follows the teachings of Christ insofar as they don’t inconvenience living a : life : of sin. : I also liked his definition of Infidel: In New York, one who does not follow : the teachings of Christ; in Constantinople, one who does. : Bright Blessings:  -Neil- *LOL* IIRC it was in the Dictionary of the Devil or something like that? Bierce was a fierce (sorry.. bad pun..) cynic.. my kinda guy! B.B. Colin. — Wake not the sleeping Bengal tiger, lest you become his dinner.

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: Christians are so fucking arrogant because they think it’s their duty in : life to save our souls! I don’t need my soul saved. Fuck I’d rather go : to Valhalla and drink and fight in Ragnarok when I die. I feel the same way about fundie Christians too.. I’d rather be in hell than in heaven with them.. oooh.. : Yaweh is the ultimate sadist! : He is so jealous and greedy he doesn’t want people to worship other : idols or pictures of people on coins. This is why Catholics are closer : to paganism because they believe in idolatry. God is laughing his ass Well.. no.. we don’t actually believe in idolatry (by my definition of ‘idolatry’ anyway.. you might have a different idea of what it is). Our statues and images are tools to focus our attention, much like the sigils in other symbologies in the Pagan religions. : off! He knows we can’t follow his rules because they are impossible not : to break. Oh yes we can look at a woman, but we cannot by his sick : edicts of puritanism touch and make love to a woman for pleasure. Taste : don’t enjoy! : Touch, but do not feel! Think, but don’t imagine ect. Talk about sadism : and jealousy huh? These are rules put in place by men. Our God is not as bad as many "Christians" make Him out to be. Brightest Blessings, Colin. — Wake not the sleeping Bengal tiger, lest you become his dinner.

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Having stopped their contemplations on the mystery of life & uttered the following: : Ambrose Bierce defined Christian as one who believes the teachings of Christ : to be admirably suited to the spiritual needs of somebody else; and one who : follows the teachings of Christ insofar as they don’t inconvenience living a : life : of sin. : I also liked his definition of Infidel: In New York, one who does not follow : the teachings of Christ; in Constantinople, one who does. : Bright Blessings:  -Neil- *LOL* IIRC it was in the Dictionary of the Devil or something like that? Bierce was a fierce (sorry.. bad pun..) cynic.. my kinda guy!

Aye, & the complete version is on line & worth the time to download & print out.  Whenever the blahs strike, a few pages of Ambrose will set you straight. ABNORMAL, adj.  Not conforming to standard.  In matters of  thought and conduct, to be independent is to be abnormal, to be abnormal is to be detested. Wherefore the lexicographer adviseth a striving toward the straiter [sic] resemblance of the Average Man than he hath to himself. Who so attaineth thereto shall have peace, the prospect of death and the hope of Hell.                           Devils dictionary  Two hands working do more than a thousand clasped in prayer the politically incorrect walksalone at ala net

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think to myself, "Why would I believe in a religion that tries to make you feel guilty about walking into the condom aisle by mistake." So casually, I told this man to (pardon my french) Fuck Off, and went about my business.

This is not "Christianity"  - this is an individual.  An individual being a bit of a pushy moron, thrusting his neurosis and bias on unsuspecting strangers.  Had he approached me in the same manner, not only would I have told him to get a Life, but might have inquired as to the status of the levels of his obviously necessary psychotropic drugs in his bloodstream. Time to take another dose, buddy… If a Pagan offended me in some way, and I claimed that they were representative of all Pagans, now, that wouldn’t be right would it? Sure, there are a lot of nut cases out there.  Sure some of them might have been exposed to Christianity at some point in their life.  But the key here is that sitting in a pew every day in church does not make you a Christian. There’s more to it than that. Anyhow, Blessings be upon you, Love, Lisa http://www.javanet.com/~lanat/webdesign2.htm Lanat Enterprises Web Site Design

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WELL SAID!! Blessings, Rowan Hawthorne – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Sure, there are a lot of nut cases out there.  Sure some of them might have been exposed to Christianity at some point in their life.  But the key here is that sitting in a pew every day in church does not make you a Christian. There’s more to it than that. Anyhow, Blessings be upon you, Love, Lisa http://www.javanet.com/~lanat/webdesign2.htm Lanat Enterprises Web Site Design

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One bright sunny day, I decided to go to Wal-Mart. Casually, I began glancing here and there, when I realize that I had wandered into the condom/pregnancy test aisle. I slowly turn around and there is this strange man staring at me as if I had committed some heinous crime. So I slowly try to walk around him. He stops me, and starts ranting about how Christians saved themselves for marriage and that I needed to go to church to give penitence for my sins and how could I possibly think of such *dirty things*, and as this is going on I think to myself, "Why would I believe in a religion that tries to make you feel guilty about walking into the condom aisle by mistake."  So casually, I told this man to (pardon my french) Fuck Off, and went about my business.

You didn’t happen to ask why he was hanging around the condom aisle, did you? It’s fun when they sputter and turn red. — The Original Wicca Works! at:  http://www.atlantic.net/~wiccan/  Articles-Jewelry-Tiles-Chalices-Poetry-ClipArt-Other(!)Stuff       – Four boxes to be used in defense of Liberty:      Soap, Ballot, Jury, and Ammo. Use in that order.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – One bright sunny day, I decided to go to Wal-Mart. Casually, I began glancing here and there, when I realize that I had wandered into the condom/pregnancy test aisle. I slowly turn around and there is this strange man staring at me as if I had committed some heinous crime. So I slowly try to walk around him. He stops me, and starts ranting about how Christians saved themselves for marriage and that I needed to go to church to give penitence for my sins and how could I possibly think of such *dirty things*, and as this is going on I think to myself, "Why would I believe in a religion that tries to make you feel guilty about walking into the condom aisle by mistake." So casually, I told this man to (pardon my french) Fuck Off, and went about my business.

Sounds like an experience I had.  Cept it was at my front door.  It was a few weeks after I had just moved into my new apt, when two women showed up at my door.  They were Jehovah Witnesses.  They immediately assumed I was Christian and started talking about how they could help me understand the bible better.  Like they are authorities on it or something.  Oh and how they understand that there are so many religions out there.  Hubby and I simply told them, that’s real nice…good luck on your quest and then he shut the door before they could say anything else.  We were in the middle of dinner, so we didn’t feel like explaining who we are.  It was annoying though, that they just assume I’m a Christian.  Most actually do, y’kno until you tell them. Moon Dancer

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Christians are so fucking arrogant because they think it’s their duty in life to save our souls! I don’t need my soul saved. Fuck I’d rather go to Valhalla and drink and fight in Ragnarok when I die. Yaweh is the ultimate sadist! He is so jealous and greedy he doesn’t want people to worship other idols or pictures of people on coins. This is why Catholics are closer to paganism because they believe in idolatry. God is laughing his ass off! He knows we can’t follow his rules because they are impossible not to break. Oh yes we can look at a woman, but we cannot by his sick edicts of puritanism touch and make love to a woman for pleasure. Taste don’t enjoy! Touch, but do not feel! Think, but don’t imagine ect. Talk about sadism and jealousy huh? – Ryan

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