Christianity QA » Christian God » Are your friends going to hell?
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Don’t you care about your friends? If you are a Christian and haven’t made sure they are saved, you aren’t loving them as you do yourself. Your desire to not offend them may be the greatest hurt you could do to them. You could be God’s tool intended to reach them, and He may not bring anyone else. Are you willing to let your friends or family members go to hell? Relax, there is no hell or gods. Enjoy life and stop spending your time fearing death. Everyone dies eventually. Do you believe in air that you cannot see? Do you believe in electrons that no one has seen? Do you believe in pluto’s existence? For all you know, Nasa is lying to you. You don’t have to believe Nasa or anyone else to see Pluto. You can see it for yourself with a telescope. Hey…in fact a little bit of looking for yourself can get you quite far! His mind only thinks 1-way. I would put his IQ at around 60.
Well, it pays to be a little generous I guess.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <snip to Are you sure enough of eternity to believe that life that began from the eternal breath of God could die? Oh, boy, does THAT beg a lot of questions….. I CANNOT believe that I’m doing this, since I AM a Christian, believe that God created the universe and us, but K.C., how about being logical? Just a little bit? You aren’t going to reach anyone this way. The proof of the existance of God is personal, entirely subjective; unmistakable when it is felt, but all you can do to spread the gospel is to say ‘come and look, go, ask God’. Arguing gets you nowhere at all. Certainly THESE arguments don’t. You aren’t going to reach anyone by attacking the gospel. Ah, but I’m not. I’m critiquing your method of spreading it, and believe it or not, there is a difference. God doesn’t exist because we believe. True. So? We believe because God exists. Facile, but clever couplet.. Everyone knows it in their hearts. It is not subjective but objective. Those are two diametrically opposed statements. You realize that, right? Your faith is in a fairy tale that you won’t share with others. I don’t share? My dear K.C., I’ll bet I’ve knocked on more doors and taught more people personally than you have posted usenet posts. (looking) Well, perhaps not, but I’ve done my share. My faith is in the God that died for sinners. Those sinners I will continue to try to reach, no matter what wet blankets you try to throw on the Holy Spirit’s flame. Actually, I’m simply trying to teach you how to do a better job. You may not LIKE this, but just because I don’t agree with you about your methods does not automatically mean that I am A: inexperienced, B. atheist, (or even ‘not Christian’) C stupid or D; headed for hell. Indeed, all it means is that I have been trained in missionary work. I belong to a church that, whether you agree with it or not, or even whether you think it is CHRISTIAN or not, you would have to agree is VERY good at missionary work. We know what works. Indeed, no matter what else is thought of us, nobody has ever accused us of not being good missionaries for our beliefs. It’s not the gospel I am criticizing here. It’s your method of spreading it. I’m trying to do you a favor. On the other hand, considering that your version is probably something I don’t agree with completely, perhaps I should let you stumble along with your own methods. After all, I can always do it my way and teach all the people you have annoyed. When, that is, the bad taste has worn off and they are actually ready to listen. Diana
Diana, here is what I see. You aren’t witnessing yourself and instead are spending your time on my thread telling me what I am doing wrong. K.C. http://providential-plan.com/providence.html
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Relax, there is no hell or gods. Dear God, please let me be there when he gets the word .. Well, comfort ye in this…no matter which one of you is right about this, you are the only one who will be able to say ‘I told you so". Which is as far toward Pascal as I’m willing to go. 
Not so. You seem to have forgotten the third option; if there is a god and it turns out to be other than the Christian god then both will be in trouble. Though the Christian will really be in for it for worshiping a false god. .. All religions, with their gods, demigods, prophets, messiahs and saints, are the product of the fancy and credulity of men who have not yet reached the full development and complete possession of their intellectual powers. — Mikhail Bakunin, God and the State – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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To say that you know there is a "creator" is hogwash. You get your reasoning from a 2,000 year old book written by man when he thought the earth was flat and the sun revolved around the earth. Your cosmology is hellenist not hebraist ..
But what about santa clause?
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Relax, there is no hell or gods.
I agree but obsessive compulsives dont have a second to relax. They aint gonna get it. Enjoy life and stop spending your time fearing death. Everyone dies eventually.
It is tragic that these people waste their lives with Hebrew voodoo hobgoblinism and trying to control everyone’s life like dictators. Its pathetic. They are already in hell and full of existential pains. They cant help it because of religion. Makes em stupid. CHALLENGING CHRISTIANITY’S STORY OF ITSELF When the victors who write history lie:
http://community-2.webtv.net/Tales_of_the_Western_World/RL/ HUMOR – HUMOR – HUMOR – HUMOR – …….:-)) THE POST ELECTION 2004 MAP:
http://community-2.webtv.net/Tales_of_the_Western_World/2004/ EGYPT, IRAN, SAUDI ARABIA, PAKISTAN, SINGAPORE, MALAYSIA AND BENGLADESH ARE RED STATES, TOO!!!
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Relax, there is no hell or gods. I agree but obsessive compulsives dont have a second to relax. They aint gonna get it. Enjoy life and stop spending your time fearing death. Everyone dies eventually. It is tragic that these people waste their lives with Hebrew voodoo hobgoblinism and trying to control everyone’s life like dictators. Its pathetic. They are already in hell and full of existential pains. They cant help it because of religion. Makes em stupid.
I Disagree. They are not "stupid". Until 6 years ago, I followed the christian clan, I was (at the time) the only one in my family to question our beliefs. The low point of my life was when my mother said " You must be Satan if you won’t do as we do. " Yeah, I’m the Freak.
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Relax, there is no hell or gods. Dear God, please let me be there when he gets the word ..
Well, comfort ye in this…no matter which one of you is right about this, you are the only one who will be able to say ‘I told you so". Which is as far toward Pascal as I’m willing to go.
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Oh, so the bible doesn’t say or infer this? Wow George, you’re just full of it, aren’t you?
Dude, speakers imply; readers infer. Your grammar is about on the same level as your rejoinders ..
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<snip to Are you sure enough of eternity to believe that life that began from the eternal breath of God could die? Oh, boy, does THAT beg a lot of questions….. I CANNOT believe that I’m doing this, since I AM a Christian, believe that God created the universe and us, but K.C., how about being logical? Just a little bit? You aren’t going to reach anyone this way. The proof of the existance of God is personal, entirely subjective; unmistakable when it is felt, but all you can do to spread the gospel is to say ‘come and look, go, ask God’. Arguing gets you nowhere at all. Certainly THESE arguments don’t. You aren’t going to reach anyone by attacking the gospel.
Ah, but I’m not. I’m critiquing your method of spreading it, and believe it or not, there is a difference. God doesn’t exist because we believe.
True. So? We believe because God exists.
Facile, but clever couplet.. Everyone knows it in their hearts. It is not subjective but objective.
Those are two diametrically opposed statements. You realize that, right? Your faith is in a fairy tale that you won’t share with others.
I don’t share? My dear K.C., I’ll bet I’ve knocked on more doors and taught more people personally than you have posted usenet posts. (looking) Well, perhaps not, but I’ve done my share. My faith is in the God that died for sinners. Those sinners I will continue to try to reach, no matter what wet blankets you try to throw on the Holy Spirit’s flame.
Actually, I’m simply trying to teach you how to do a better job. You may not LIKE this, but just because I don’t agree with you about your methods does not automatically mean that I am A: inexperienced, B. atheist, (or even ‘not Christian’) C stupid or D; headed for hell. Indeed, all it means is that I have been trained in missionary work. I belong to a church that, whether you agree with it or not, or even whether you think it is CHRISTIAN or not, you would have to agree is VERY good at missionary work. We know what works. Indeed, no matter what else is thought of us, nobody has ever accused us of not being good missionaries for our beliefs. It’s not the gospel I am criticizing here. It’s your method of spreading it. I’m trying to do you a favor. On the other hand, considering that your version is probably something I don’t agree with completely, perhaps I should let you stumble along with your own methods. After all, I can always do it my way and teach all the people you have annoyed. When, that is, the bad taste has worn off and they are actually ready to listen. Diana
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To say that you know there is a "creator" is hogwash. You get your reasoning from a 2,000 year old book written by man when he thought the earth was flat and the sun revolved around the earth. Your cosmology is hellenist not hebraist ..
Oh, so the bible doesn’t say or infer this? Wow George, you’re just full of it, aren’t you?
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Relax, there is no hell or gods. Dear God, please let me be there when he gets the word ..
LOL! Wow Georgie, you really don’t understand the man when he says there is no hell or gods. When you die George, you’ll just be another road kill for the vultures of life to enjoy.
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Relax, there is no hell or gods.
Dear God, please let me be there when he gets the word ..
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To say that you know there is a "creator" is hogwash. You get your reasoning from a 2,000 year old book written by man when he thought the earth was flat and the sun revolved around the earth.
Your cosmology is hellenist not hebraist ..
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Don’t you care about your friends? If you are a Christian and haven’t made sure they are saved, you aren’t loving them as you do yourself. Your desire to not offend them may be the greatest hurt you could do to them. You could be God’s tool intended to reach them, and He may not bring anyone else. Are you willing to let your friends or family members go to hell? Relax, there is no hell or gods. Enjoy life and stop spending your time fearing death. Everyone dies eventually. To say there is no creator is to say there is no creation. Well, yeah. Your existence is proof of a designer. No, it’s proof of existance. Besides, are you sure you won’t die? I believe that what he said is ‘everyone dies eventually’. Do you also not believe in ghosts or demons or such? Do you? Do you believe in air that you cannot see? Try being in someplace without air and see if you believe in it’s existance. Do you believe in electrons that no one has seen? Er, we can see them; we see their effects.. Do you believe in pluto’s existence? What, the dog? For all you know, Nasa is lying to you. You take many things on faith, yet you don’t know for sure. This is the only thing you’ve said so far I agree with. Faith is something everybody uses. Are you sure enough of eternity to believe that life that began from the eternal breath of God could die? Oh, boy, does THAT beg a lot of questions….. I CANNOT believe that I’m doing this, since I AM a Christian, believe that God created the universe and us, but K.C., how about being logical? Just a little bit? You aren’t going to reach anyone this way. The proof of the existance of God is personal, entirely subjective; unmistakable when it is felt, but all you can do to spread the gospel is to say ‘come and look, go, ask God’. Arguing gets you nowhere at all. Certainly THESE arguments don’t. You aren’t going to reach anyone by attacking the gospel. God doesn’t exist because we believe. We believe because God exists. Everyone knows it in their hearts. It is not subjective but objective. Your faith is in a fairy tale that you won’t share with others. My faith is in the God that died for sinners. Those sinners I will continue to try to reach, no matter what wet blankets you try to throw on the Holy Spirit’s flame. You need psychological help.
Don’t we all? ;-) Jonathan
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Don’t you care about your friends? If you are a Christian and haven’t made sure they are saved, you aren’t loving them as you do yourself. Your desire to not offend them may be the greatest hurt you could do to them. You could be God’s tool intended to reach them, and He may not bring anyone else. Are you willing to let your friends or family members go to hell? Relax, there is no hell or gods. Enjoy life and stop spending your time fearing death. Everyone dies eventually. To say there is no creator is to say there is no creation. Well, yeah. Your existence is proof of a designer. No, it’s proof of existance. Besides, are you sure you won’t die? I believe that what he said is ‘everyone dies eventually’. Do you also not believe in ghosts or demons or such? Do you? Do you believe in air that you cannot see? Try being in someplace without air and see if you believe in it’s existance. Do you believe in electrons that no one has seen? Er, we can see them; we see their effects.. Do you believe in pluto’s existence? What, the dog? For all you know, Nasa is lying to you. You take many things on faith, yet you don’t know for sure. This is the only thing you’ve said so far I agree with. Faith is something everybody uses. Are you sure enough of eternity to believe that life that began from the eternal breath of God could die? Oh, boy, does THAT beg a lot of questions….. I CANNOT believe that I’m doing this, since I AM a Christian, believe that God created the universe and us, but K.C., how about being logical? Just a little bit? You aren’t going to reach anyone this way. The proof of the existance of God is personal, entirely subjective; unmistakable when it is felt, but all you can do to spread the gospel is to say ‘come and look, go, ask God’. Arguing gets you nowhere at all. Certainly THESE arguments don’t. You aren’t going to reach anyone by attacking the gospel. God doesn’t exist because we believe. We believe because God exists. Everyone knows it in their hearts. It is not subjective but objective. Your faith is in a fairy tale that you won’t share with others. My faith is in the God that died for sinners. Those sinners I will continue to try to reach, no matter what wet blankets you try to throw on the Holy Spirit’s flame.
You need psychological help.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Don’t you care about your friends? If you are a Christian and haven’t made sure they are saved, you aren’t loving them as you do yourself. Your desire to not offend them may be the greatest hurt you could do to them. You could be God’s tool intended to reach them, and He may not bring anyone else. Are you willing to let your friends or family members go to hell? Relax, there is no hell or gods. Enjoy life and stop spending your time fearing death. Everyone dies eventually. To say there is no creator is to say there is no creation. Well, yeah. Your existence is proof of a designer. No, it’s proof of existance. Besides, are you sure you won’t die? I believe that what he said is ‘everyone dies eventually’. Do you also not believe in ghosts or demons or such? Do you? Do you believe in air that you cannot see? Try being in someplace without air and see if you believe in it’s existance. Do you believe in electrons that no one has seen? Er, we can see them; we see their effects.. Do you believe in pluto’s existence? What, the dog? For all you know, Nasa is lying to you. You take many things on faith, yet you don’t know for sure. This is the only thing you’ve said so far I agree with. Faith is something everybody uses. Are you sure enough of eternity to believe that life that began from the eternal breath of God could die? Oh, boy, does THAT beg a lot of questions….. I CANNOT believe that I’m doing this, since I AM a Christian, believe that God created the universe and us, but K.C., how about being logical? Just a little bit? You aren’t going to reach anyone this way. The proof of the existance of God is personal, entirely subjective; unmistakable when it is felt, but all you can do to spread the gospel is to say ‘come and look, go, ask God’. Arguing gets you nowhere at all. Certainly THESE arguments don’t.
You aren’t going to reach anyone by attacking the gospel. God doesn’t exist because we believe. We believe because God exists. Everyone knows it in their hearts. It is not subjective but objective. Your faith is in a fairy tale that you won’t share with others. My faith is in the God that died for sinners. Those sinners I will continue to try to reach, no matter what wet blankets you try to throw on the Holy Spirit’s flame. K.C. http://providential-plan.com/providence.html P.S. Who have you witnessed to today?
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Don’t you care about your friends? If you are a Christian and haven’t made sure they are saved, you aren’t loving them as you do yourself. Your desire to not offend them may be the greatest hurt you could do to them. You could be God’s tool intended to reach them, and He may not bring anyone else. Are you willing to let your friends or family members go to hell? Relax, there is no hell or gods. Enjoy life and stop spending your time fearing death. Everyone dies eventually. Do you believe in air that you cannot see? Do you believe in electrons that no one has seen? Do you believe in pluto’s existence? For all you know, Nasa is lying to you. You don’t have to believe Nasa or anyone else to see Pluto. You can see it for yourself with a telescope. Hey…in fact a little bit of looking for yourself can get you quite far! His mind only thinks 1-way. I would put his IQ at around 60.
So, don’t answer my post but respond to others? Go back and answer my lost post to you. K.C. http://providential-plan.com/providence.html
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Don’t you care about your friends? If you are a Christian and haven’t made sure they are saved, you aren’t loving them as you do yourself. Your desire to not offend them may be the greatest hurt you could do to them. You could be God’s tool intended to reach them, and He may not bring anyone else. Are you willing to let your friends or family members go to hell? Relax, there is no hell or gods. Enjoy life and stop spending your time fearing death. Everyone dies eventually. Do you believe in air that you cannot see? Do you believe in electrons that no one has seen? Do you believe in pluto’s existence? For all you know, Nasa is lying to you.
You don’t have to believe Nasa or anyone else to see Pluto. You can see it for yourself with a telescope. Hey…in fact a little bit of looking for yourself can get you quite far! -Rhyme
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Don’t you care about your friends? If you are a Christian and haven’t made sure they are saved, you aren’t loving them as you do yourself. Your desire to not offend them may be the greatest hurt you could do to them. You could be God’s tool intended to reach them, and He may not bring anyone else. Are you willing to let your friends or family members go to hell? Relax, there is no hell or gods. Enjoy life and stop spending your time fearing death. Everyone dies eventually. Do you believe in air that you cannot see? Do you believe in electrons that no one has seen? Do you believe in pluto’s existence? For all you know, Nasa is lying to you. You don’t have to believe Nasa or anyone else to see Pluto. You can see it for yourself with a telescope. Hey…in fact a little bit of looking for yourself can get you quite far!
His mind only thinks 1-way. I would put his IQ at around 60.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Don’t you care about your friends? If you are a Christian and haven’t made sure they are saved, you aren’t loving them as you do yourself. Your desire to not offend them may be the greatest hurt you could do to them. You could be God’s tool intended to reach them, and He may not bring anyone else. Are you willing to let your friends or family members go to hell? Relax, there is no hell or gods. Enjoy life and stop spending your time fearing death. Everyone dies eventually. To say there is no creator is to say there is no creation.
Well, yeah. Your existence is proof of a designer.
No, it’s proof of existance. Besides, are you sure you won’t die?
I believe that what he said is ‘everyone dies eventually’. Do you also not believe in ghosts or demons or such?
Do you? Do you believe in air that you cannot see?
Try being in someplace without air and see if you believe in it’s existance. Do you believe in electrons that no one has seen?
Er, we can see them; we see their effects.. Do you believe in pluto’s existence?
What, the dog? For all you know, Nasa is lying to you. You take many things on faith, yet you don’t know for sure.
This is the only thing you’ve said so far I agree with. Faith is something everybody uses. Are you sure enough of eternity to believe that life that began from the eternal breath of God could die?
Oh, boy, does THAT beg a lot of questions….. I CANNOT believe that I’m doing this, since I AM a Christian, believe that God created the universe and us, but K.C., how about being logical? Just a little bit? You aren’t going to reach anyone this way. The proof of the existance of God is personal, entirely subjective; unmistakable when it is felt, but all you can do to spread the gospel is to say ‘come and look, go, ask God’. Arguing gets you nowhere at all. Certainly THESE arguments don’t.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Don’t you care about your friends? If you are a Christian and haven’t made sure they are saved, you aren’t loving them as you do yourself. Your desire to not offend them may be the greatest hurt you could do to them. You could be God’s tool intended to reach them, and He may not bring anyone else. Are you willing to let your friends or family members go to hell? Relax, there is no hell or gods. Enjoy life and stop spending your time fearing death. Everyone dies eventually. To say there is no creator is to say there is no creation. To say that you know there is a "creator" is hogwash. You get your reasoning from a 2,000 year old book written by man when he thought the earth was flat and the sun revolved around the earth.
That’s not actually what the bible says. In fact, it was a corrupt church (at the time) that suggested that unbiblical theory. However, the bible talks of the "circle of the earth" long before science confirmed the bible as true in regards to it. However, you didn’t acknowledge that things were, in fact, created. Your existence is proof of a designer. It’s called evolution. The earth is Billions of years old, the human species is less than 2 million years old. Wake up. What nationality is your adam & eve characters? Where did all the races come from? Does your imaginary sky pixy condone incest?
Even Darwin believed in God. Thomas Paine that wrote a critique of Christianity also said that atheists were fools, since we were all created from something. Something cannot come from nothing, unless it is made by a Higher Power. Science, in fact, is built on the idea that energy doesn’t get created anymore, only changes from form to form. Therefore, evolution hasn’t created anything. Besides, are you sure you won’t die? I am sure that I will, along with everyone else. Maybe sooner if you facist fearmongers keep up your holy wars, slaughtering people by the
thousands. In fact, all the peace organizations that have ever existed, started with Christians, and it was a Christian USA that defeated Hitler (FDR praying nationally on the air on D-Day). – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Do you also not believe in ghosts or demons or such? That is correct. No santa clause, easter bunny or tooth fairy either. Do you believe in air that you cannot see? Yes, I breathe it all the time. Do you believe in electrons that no one has seen? Does your house have electricity or do you use candles for light? Do you believe in pluto’s existence? For all you know, Nasa is lying to you. Do you believe the moon exists? Have you ever taken an IQ test? You take many things on faith, yet you don’t know for sure. Are you sure enough of eternity to believe that life that began from the eternal breath of God could die? Do all species go to your imaginary "heaven" or just the human
species? In fact, they will go to heaven. The bible talks of Jesus riding a horse and talks of other animals there as well (such as a lion and a lamb). K.C. http://providential-plan.com/providence.html
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Don’t you care about your friends? If you are a Christian and haven’t made sure they are saved, you aren’t loving them as you do yourself. Your desire to not offend them may be the greatest hurt you could do to them. You could be God’s tool intended to reach them, and He may not bring anyone else. Are you willing to let your friends or family members go to hell? Relax, there is no hell or gods. Enjoy life and stop spending your time fearing death. Everyone dies eventually. To say there is no creator is to say there is no creation.
To say that you know there is a "creator" is hogwash. You get your reasoning from a 2,000 year old book written by man when he thought the earth was flat and the sun revolved around the earth. Your existence is proof of a designer.
It’s called evolution. The earth is Billions of years old, the human species is less than 2 million years old. Wake up. What nationality is your adam & eve characters? Where did all the races come from? Does your imaginary sky pixy condone incest? Besides, are you sure you won’t die?
I am sure that I will, along with everyone else. Maybe sooner if you facist fearmongers keep up your holy wars, slaughtering people by the thousands. Do you also not believe in ghosts or demons or such?
That is correct. No santa clause, easter bunny or tooth fairy either. Do you believe in air that you cannot see?
Yes, I breathe it all the time. Do you believe in electrons that no one has seen?
Does your house have electricity or do you use candles for light? Do you believe in pluto’s existence? For all you know, Nasa is lying to you.
Do you believe the moon exists? Have you ever taken an IQ test? You take many things on faith, yet you don’t know for sure. Are you sure enough of eternity to believe that life that began from the eternal breath of God could die?
Do all species go to your imaginary "heaven" or just the human species? Wake up!
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Don’t you care about your friends? If you are a Christian and haven’t made sure they are saved, you aren’t loving them as you do yourself. Your desire to not offend them may be the greatest hurt you could do to them. You could be God’s tool intended to reach them, and He may not bring anyone else. Are you willing to let your friends or family members go to hell?
Relax, there is no hell or gods. Enjoy life and stop spending your time fearing death. Everyone dies eventually.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Don’t you care about your friends? If you are a Christian and haven’t made sure they are saved, you aren’t loving them as you do yourself. Your desire to not offend them may be the greatest hurt you could do to them. You could be God’s tool intended to reach them, and He may not bring anyone else. Are you willing to let your friends or family members go to hell? Relax, there is no hell or gods. Enjoy life and stop spending your time fearing death. Everyone dies eventually.
To say there is no creator is to say there is no creation. Your existence is proof of a designer. Besides, are you sure you won’t die? Do you also not believe in ghosts or demons or such? Do you believe in air that you cannot see? Do you believe in electrons that no one has seen? Do you believe in pluto’s existence? For all you know, Nasa is lying to you. You take many things on faith, yet you don’t know for sure. Are you sure enough of eternity to believe that life that began from the eternal breath of God could die? K.C. http://providential-plan.com/providence.html
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Don’t you care about your friends? If you are a Christian and haven’t made sure they are saved, you aren’t loving them as you do yourself. Your desire to not offend them may be the greatest hurt you could do to them. You could be God’s tool intended to reach them, and He may not bring anyone else. Are you willing to let your friends or family members go to hell? Mention Jesus to your friends. The life you bring into eternity may be standing right next to you. Kirk Cameron has a show called Way of the Master that comes on Monday nights on TBN (6 central). One of the illustrations he uses is that of a fireman going into a burning building. If you see your friend..or for that matter a stanger…in a building on fire, don’t you go in an try to save them. Why, then, wouldn’t you save your friends from the fires of hell? Another illustration he uses is a man in a plane that is going down. Wouldn’t you, standing nearby, make sure he puts on a parachute? Why, then, would you let your friends and family fall into eternity without the Eternal Security of Jesus Christ. Don’t you love them? Think about it. K.C. http://providential-plan.com/providence.html
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