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I haven’t been participating in the NG’s for a few days because I have been finshing up my web page  The Bible Light . It has MANY Reformed Calvinist resources on allot of different subjects. If you have ever wondered, "what is a Calvinist" or what are "the Doctrines of Grace" this web page will hopefully answer your questions. It includes subjects such as: Baptism The Trinity TULIP (The Doctrines of Grace) Arminianism Calvinism Sola Scriptura and much more ! Take a few minutes to check it out. Blessings, Adam

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –      "I have been finshing up my web page      The Bible Light . It has MANY Reformed      Calvinist resources…"      The DataRat visited this web site.  From      what your favorite rodent saw, it is full of      good information.   Bro. Rat particularly      liked the "Arguments Against the Trinity"      page in the Trinity section.

 http://www.biblelight.faithweb.com//trinity.htm I am still going to organize that section and add more links when I get more time.      You can view this web site at:      http://www.biblelight.faithweb.com//index.htm                                      The DataRat      .

Blessings, Adam

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     "I have been finshing up my web page      The Bible Light . It has MANY Reformed      Calvinist resources…"      The DataRat visited this web site.  From      what your favorite rodent saw, it is full of      good information.   Bro. Rat particularly      liked the "Arguments Against the Trinity"      page in the Trinity section.      You can view this web site at:      http://www.biblelight.faithweb.com//index.htm                                      The DataRat      .

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –      "I have been finshing up my web page      The Bible Light . It has MANY Reformed      Calvinist resources…"      The DataRat visited this web site.  From      what your favorite rodent saw, it is full of      good information.   Bro. Rat particularly      liked the "Arguments Against the Trinity"      page in the Trinity section.      You can view this web site at:      http://www.biblelight.faithweb.com//index.htm                                      The DataRat

I heartily agree with the Genovan Rodent. This site is an excellent resource for anyone who wants to know HOW to give answer concerning reason for the hope that is in you, with gentleness and respect. I highly recommend it. In Christ, Rev. Mike  Bugal Heartland Chapel Ministries http://home.earthlink.net/~revmikeb/ HCM Internet Radio (NEW) http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/5349/ ICQ#3839265

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I haven’t been participating in the NG’s for a few days because I have been finshing up my web page  The Bible Light . It has MANY Reformed Calvinist resources on allot of different subjects. If you have ever wondered, "what is a Calvinist" or what are "the Doctrines of Grace" this web page will hopefully answer your questions. It includes subjects such as: Baptism The Trinity TULIP (The Doctrines of Grace) Arminianism Calvinism Sola Scriptura and much more ! Take a few minutes to check it out. Blessings, Adam

Good stuff, Adam.  Well done.

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Did Jesus Christ preach Calvinism? Do you really think that God could expect anyone to understand a doctrine as tedious as Calvinism? Do Calvinists understand Calvinism? Does anyone understand Calvinism? Did Calvin know what he was talking about? BAM   I haven’t been participating in the NG’s for a few days because I have been finshing   up my web page  The Bible Light . It has MANY Reformed Calvinist resources on allot   of different subjects. If you have ever wondered, "what is a Calvinist" or what are "the Doctrines of Grace" this web page will hopefully answer your questions.   It includes subjects such as:   Baptism   The Trinity   TULIP (The Doctrines of Grace)   Arminianism   Calvinism   Sola Scriptura   and much more !   Take a few minutes to check it out.   Blessings,   Adam

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Did Jesus Christ preach Calvinism? Do you really think that God could expect anyone to understand a doctrine as tedious as Calvinism? Do Calvinists understand Calvinism? Does anyone understand Calvinism? Did Calvin know what he was talking about? BAM

Calvinism: religious mental masturbation about the unknowable by the foolishly arrogant. A doctrine best known for its charismatic leader, John "Everyone’s going to hell but me!" Calvin, a convicted pederast and shoplifter.   – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – no. i see posts saying *are mormons christians?* so i thought i would ask if baptists are christians…  it seems to be a reasonable question, in this context… i still have not received an answer… i believe that both mormons & baptists *claim* to be christians, but whether either one (or any other so-called christian denomination, for that matter) is actually practicing anything close to what jesus taught is certainly debatable. in my opinion, any religious denomination which is hostile to gay people is NOT practicing true christianity…  it is the sadness in my heart over this state of affairs, not hatred, that you must have been reading into my words…

Baptists are the high school drop-out, leisure-suited, used-car selling, trailer-park denizens of Christianity. Forgive them for they do not know what they do.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  Did Jesus Christ preach Calvinism? Great question Bam! A simple search through the book of John reveals Jesus did in fact preach what is now known as Calvinism Total Depravity 19: And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. (John 3:19) 44: No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. (John 6:44) (see chapters 9 and 11 also) Unconditional Election 37: All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. (John 6:37) 16: Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you. (John 15:16) 2: As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. (John 17:2) Particular Redemption 11: I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. 15: As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. (John 10:11;15) 13: Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. (John 15:13) Effectual Grace 37: All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. (John 6:37) 16: And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. 17: Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. (John 10:16;17) Perseverance of the Saints 39: And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. (John 6:39) 27: My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29: My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand. (John 10:27-29) Do you really think that God could expect anyone to understand a doctrine as tedious as Calvinism? Yes Do Calvinists understand Calvinism? Yes. But not at first, we all reject it. Does anyone understand Calvinism? Did Calvin know what he was talking about? Yes and so did MANY people in History. BAM

Blessings, Adam

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Calvinism: religious mental masturbation about the unknowable by the foolishly arrogant. A doctrine best known for its charismatic leader, John "Everyone’s going to hell but me!" Calvin, a convicted pederast and shoplifter.

John Calvin was a convicted foot doctor??? — Recipes in the Sky: http://members.xoom.com/utahna26 A Voice in the Wilderness: http://members.xoom.com/kaelwyn7

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – no. i see posts saying *are mormons christians?* so i thought i would ask if baptists are christians…  it seems to be a reasonable question, in this context… i still have not received an answer… i believe that both mormons & baptists *claim* to be christians, but whether either one (or any other so-called christian denomination, for that matter) is actually practicing anything close to what jesus taught is certainly debatable. in my opinion, any religious denomination which is hostile to gay people is NOT practicing true christianity…  it is the sadness in my heart over this state of affairs, not hatred, that you must have been reading into my words… Baptists are the high school drop-out, leisure-suited, used-car selling, trailer-park denizens of Christianity. Forgive them for they do not know what they do.

Shame on you.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – no. i see posts saying *are mormons christians?* so i thought i would ask if baptists are christians…  it seems to be a reasonable question, in this context… i still have not received an answer… i believe that both mormons & baptists *claim* to be christians, but whether either one (or any other so-called christian denomination, for that matter) is actually practicing anything close to what jesus taught is certainly debatable. in my opinion, any religious denomination which is hostile to gay people is NOT practicing true christianity…  it is the sadness in my heart over this state of affairs, not hatred, that you must have been reading into my words… Baptists are the high school drop-out, leisure-suited, used-car selling, trailer-park denizens of Christianity. Forgive them for they do not know what they do. Shame on you.

I agree.  I once had a very good Christian discussion with a Mormon. After reading of the PCUSA funding of pagan fertility sophia goddess worship and gender challenged worship re-imaging denying the diversity between men and women and the possibility of ordination of rebellious non repentant sinners, she asked, *Are Presbyterians still Christian?* Yet many Presbyterians consider Mormons a cult. True Christians follow God’s Word as taught and affirmed by Jesus Christ, not the traditions of men and certainly not gender confused legalistic fictions, fertility goddess worship, sexual immorality of the temple prostitutes, and Liberation Theology. However, any Christian demonimation that calls the choice of a sinful lifestyle an acceptable alternative lifestyle is not practicing love, but rebellion to God’s Word and Jesus’s teachings.  Christ did not teach anyone to be tolerant to sin, but to abjectly reject it.  Love is following the commandments and statues of God, to the last jot and tittle as Jesus Christ affirmed. — May God Bless You, Michael Character Counts.  It is not hypocritical to set a high goal and occasionally fail.  It is hypocritical to set a low goal and occasionally succeed.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Did Jesus Christ preach Calvinism? Do you really think that God could expect anyone to understand a doctrine as tedious as Calvinism? Do Calvinists understand Calvinism? Does anyone understand Calvinism? Did Calvin know what he was talking about? BAM Calvinism: religious mental masturbation about the unknowable by the foolishly arrogant. A doctrine best known for its charismatic leader, John "Everyone’s going to hell but me!" Calvin, a convicted pederast and shoplifter.

Warning:  This is the troll aka "Goldberg", "Goldbush" and "Fred Ferguson." Disregard all posts. — GoldRush For Scriptures & Christian Studies visit http://www.mlode.com/~jrrush

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – no. i see posts saying *are mormons christians?* so i thought i would ask if baptists are christians…  it seems to be a reasonable question, in this context… i still have not received an answer… i believe that both mormons & baptists *claim* to be christians, but whether either one (or any other so-called christian denomination, for that matter) is actually practicing anything close to what jesus taught is certainly debatable. in my opinion, any religious denomination which is hostile to gay people is NOT practicing true christianity…  it is the sadness in my heart over this state of affairs, not hatred, that you must have been reading into my words… Baptists are the high school drop-out, leisure-suited, used-car selling, trailer-park denizens of Christianity. Forgive them for they do not know what they do.

Warning:  This is the troll aka "Goldbug," "Goldbush" "Fred Ferguson," and "Randy Larson". — GoldRush For Scriptures & Christian Studies visit http://www.mlode.com/~jrrush

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John 15:16 wrote Great question Bam! A simple search through the book of John reveals Jesus did in fact preach what is now known as Calvinism Total Depravity 19: And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. (John 3:19) 44: No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. (John 6:44) You call this "total depravity"? Perhaps I’ll call myself a glutton for eating a blueberry.

Yes I do. Now do you have a real arguement against these Scriptures?or are you just wasting my time? Particular Redemption 11: I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. 15: As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. (John 10:11;15) 13: Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. (John 15:13) You must be kidding with the above

Yeah real funny joke!!! eh? Effectual Grace 37: All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. (John 6:37) 16: And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. 17: Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. (John 10:16;17) Once again I see no connection

I wouldn’t expect *you* to see any connection. Blessings, Adam  http://www.biblelight.faithweb.com//index.htm

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John 15:16 wrote Great question Bam! A simple search through the book of John reveals Jesus did in fact preach what is now known as Calvinism Total Depravity 19: And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and

men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. (John 3:19) 44: No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him:

and I will raise him up at the last day. (John 6:44) You call this "total depravity"? Perhaps I’ll call myself a glutton for eating a blueberry. 37: All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to

me I will in no wise cast out. (John 6:37) 16: Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye

should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you. (John 15:16) 2: As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal

life to as many as thou hast given him. (John 17:2) This does not mean 1) that one cannot resist grace or 2) that anyone can be certain whether or not he *is* of the elect. If this were so, Paul would not have had reservations about his own salvation. Once again, your theory is outside of the Bible and it was never taught universally. Particular Redemption 11: I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. 15: As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. (John 10:11;15) 13: Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. (John 15:13) You must be kidding with the above Effectual Grace 37: All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to

me I will in no wise cast out. (John 6:37) 16: And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must

bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. 17: Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. (John 10:16;17)

Once again I see no connection Perseverance of the Saints 39: And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. (John 6:39) 27: My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29: My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand. (John 10:27-29) This is not unorthodox – no argument here. It’s the spiritual myopia of the Calvinists that’s wrong. Do you really think that God could expect anyone to understand a doctrine

as tedious as Calvinism? Yes

OK – does one NEED to understand it? If so why? Do Calvinists understand Calvinism? Yes. But not at first, we all reject it.

Until you see the benefits of declaring yourself one of the elect? Does anyone understand Calvinism? Did Calvin know what he was talking

about? Yes and so did MANY people in History.

Really? What history? The history of Pottersville Presbyterian Church? BAM

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Calvinism: religious mental masturbation about the unknowable by the foolishly arrogant. A doctrine best known for its charismatic leader, John "Everyone’s going to hell but me!" Calvin, a convicted pederast and shoplifter. John Calvin was a convicted foot doctor???

What?  He was a podiatrist also? — Carl Funk   "nil illegitimi carborundum"     ICQ#16282427  a.a atheist #1229        member, EAC Decryption Squad to bypass my SPAM-deflector, it helps if you realize I am asthmatic.  i.e.  no SMOKING please!

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Warning:  This is the troll aka "Goldberg", "Goldbush" and "Fred Ferguson." Disregard all posts.

I thought his slam on calvinism was pretty accurate.

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: I agree.  I once had a very good Christian discussion with a Mormon. : After reading of the PCUSA funding of pagan fertility sophia goddess : worship and gender challenged worship re-imaging denying the diversity : between men and women and the possibility of ordination of rebellious non : repentant sinners, she asked, *Are Presbyterians still Christian?* "Sophia" is not a goddess; "sophia" is Greek for wisdom.  The Greek term "Hagia Sophia" does not mean "Saint Sophia" it means "Sacred Wisdom." It’s one of the titles of Christ. Frank "If it weren’t for the Christians we would all be Christian" Ghandi

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: I agree.  I once had a very good Christian discussion with a Mormon. : After reading of the PCUSA funding of pagan fertility sophia goddess : worship and gender challenged worship re-imaging denying the diversity : between men and women and the possibility of ordination of rebellious non : repentant sinners, she asked, *Are Presbyterians still Christian?* "Sophia" is not a goddess; "sophia" is Greek for wisdom.  The Greek term "Hagia Sophia" does not mean "Saint Sophia" it means "Sacred Wisdom." It’s one of the titles of Christ. Frank

Perhaps among the gnostics… *Sophia* certainly is Greek for "wisdom," but that does not negate the fact that "Sophia" is used as a proper name for certain persons, whether human or mythological goddesses.  And the PCUSA certainly held a conference in 1993 [the so-called "Re-imaging Conference"] and the context was *worship* toward "Our Maker Sophia".  Worship was given in a ritual called "Milk and Honey" where the participants [United Methodists, Presbyterian USA and Lutheran (ELCA)] called on "Goddess Sophia" to come and "replace traditional Christianity" [*Presbyterian Layman*, January-February 1994]. Like a ship coming into port, certain participants of the conference made the claim that "of course" they weren’t worshipping a goddess. "Sophia" doesn’t represent a Goddess but "merely" wisdom, very much like the Wisdom spoken of in Proverbs 8 [the feminine Hebrew word for wisdom is used in this passage] (See *Washington Post*, 4 June 1994, p. C8). This is complete dishonesty on the part of the participants.   The *entire* context of the Re-imaging conference was to invoke *worship* of a pagan goddess, *Sophia*, apart from any semantical games to deny it.   Gnosticism has *long* worshipped "Mother Wisdom," or Sophia ["Sophia" was the fallen creator of the earth, wind, fire, air and water, and the mother of the "evil demiurge," the Lord God of the Old Testament (and New, to be precise) See *Ungodly Rage*, Steicken, p. 162]. Regarding this "Re-imaging" conference and the *worship* of the *Goddess* Sophia that took place there, Elizabeth Actemier, feminist and professor at Union Theological Seminary in Richmond, VA, commented "Some women have reacted (to injustices to women) with justifiable rage, but what they are really doing is constructing a new church, a new religion. It is an entirely different religion than the Christian faith" (See *The Atlanta Journal- Constitution*, 22 May 1994, p. D2). So, yes, "sophia" is Greek for wisdon; and *yes*, the Re-imaging Conference certainly worshipped the *goddess* Sophia; and no, it is not Christ whom they call upon by doing so. "If it weren’t for the Christians we would all be Christian" Ghandi

Replace the word "Christian" with "Jew" and you see the prejudiced hate behind the remark.  Intolerance, hate and hypocrisy all in one! *And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed*                               –[Acts 13:48] "We should pray that our enemies be converted and become our friends, and if not, that their doing and designing be bound to fail and have no success and that their persons perish rather than the Gospel and the Kingdom of Christ."                                - Martin Luther

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Warning:  This is the troll aka "Goldberg", "Goldbush" and "Fred Ferguson." Disregard all posts. I thought his slam on calvinism was pretty accurate.

For some reason, that does not surprise us.  Shows your level of discernment . . . — GoldRush For Scriptures & Christian Studies visit http://www.mlode.com/~jrrush

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I thought his slam on calvinism was pretty accurate. For some reason, that does not surprise us.  Shows your level of discernment . . .

Translation: Goldrush cannot tolerate anyone who has studied the Scriptures and is not deceived by his calvinist deception.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "Translation: Goldrush cannot tolerate anyone who has studied the Scriptures and is not deceived by his calvinist deception." Translation:  I am really an apostle of Satan.  I can interpret the Bible ~any~ way that ~I~ and my loony whacko cultists see fit.  We contend that a person need not be saved by God to comprehend the wonders of the heavenlies. Unfortunately, I am totally ignorant of both the truths of Scripture, and the doctrinal system as compiled from those Scriptures by Calvin.  I hate Christians, and anything to do with God.  I am also unable to argue at a reasonable level of clarity, demonstrate links between my stupid statements concerning faith and the Scriptures, and ultimately, must resort to school-yard tactics to ’square’ away with true Christians.

Good Translation! you are fluent in stupid speak? LOL TigerMan

Blessings, Adam  http://www.biblelight.faithweb.com//index.htm

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