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It is good that people are now recognising the demons that are working in DW Suiter. You do not need to argue with the demons but rebuke and cast them out like Jesus Christ our Saviour did. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sorry DW you are of Satan following the lies of Calvin, not the teachings of the church Christ founded. Sola scriptura Jn 21:25 … not everything is in the Bible. 2 Thess 2:15; 2 Tim 2:2; 1 Cor 11:2; 1 Thess 2:13 … Paul speaks of oral tradition. Acts 2:42 … early Christians followed apostolic tradition. 2 Pet 3:16 … Bible hard to understand, get distorted. 2 Jn 1:12; 3 Jn 1:13-14 … more oral tradition. 2 Pet 1:20-21 … against personal interpretation. Acts 8:31 … guidance needed to interpret scriptures. Sola fide Jas 2:14-26 … what good is faith w/o works? Heb 10:26 … must avoid sin. Jas 5:20 … "earning" forgiveness. Lk 6:46; Mt 7:21; Mt 19:16-21 … must do will of God. 1 Cor 9:27 … "buffet my body …" Phil 2:12; 2 Cor 5:10; Rom 2:6-10, 13, 3:31; Mt 25:32-46; Gal 6:6-10 … works have merit. 1 Jn 2:3-4; 1 Jn 3:24; 1 Jn 5:3 … keep commandments. Salvation (once and for all?) 1 Cor 9:27 … after preaching … I myself disqualified. 1 Cor 10:12 … thinks that he stands … lest he fall. Phil 2:12 … work out salvation with fear and trembling. Heb 4:1 … fear of failing to reach salvation. 1 Jn 5:16,17 … some sins are mortal, some not. Rom 11:21,22 … spare branches, continue or be cut off. Pax And here is the difference, you are of Catholicism, I am of God. You misread Bam. I have total faith and trust in the Living God. He is the potter, I am merely the clay. So do I, DW. That’s why I’m Catholic. — Bruce "Soli Deo gloria"
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Be sorry for yourself, that you are separated from God, alienated from God by false religious doctrines. You are a fool, being fooled by the enemy of God; the religionist who has seated himself in the seat of God, pretending he is God to mankind. This reality of the abomination of the desolate is your god of this world of evil; of fallen mankind. You are a religionist and have the same mind and spirit as those who crucified Christ. Indeed, you crucify Christ anew. Ha Davar Elohim
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sorry DW you are of Satan following the lies of Calvin, not the teachings of the church Christ founded. Sola scriptura Jn 21:25 … not everything is in the Bible. 2 Thess 2:15; 2 Tim 2:2; 1 Cor 11:2; 1 Thess 2:13 … Paul speaks of oral tradition. Acts 2:42 … early Christians followed apostolic tradition. 2 Pet 3:16 … Bible hard to understand, get distorted. 2 Jn 1:12; 3 Jn 1:13-14 … more oral tradition. 2 Pet 1:20-21 … against personal interpretation. Acts 8:31 … guidance needed to interpret scriptures. Sola fide Jas 2:14-26 … what good is faith w/o works? Heb 10:26 … must avoid sin. Jas 5:20 … "earning" forgiveness. Lk 6:46; Mt 7:21; Mt 19:16-21 … must do will of God. 1 Cor 9:27 … "buffet my body …" Phil 2:12; 2 Cor 5:10; Rom 2:6-10, 13, 3:31; Mt 25:32-46; Gal 6:6-10 … works have merit. 1 Jn 2:3-4; 1 Jn 3:24; 1 Jn 5:3 … keep commandments. Salvation (once and for all?) 1 Cor 9:27 … after preaching … I myself disqualified. 1 Cor 10:12 … thinks that he stands … lest he fall. Phil 2:12 … work out salvation with fear and trembling. Heb 4:1 … fear of failing to reach salvation. 1 Jn 5:16,17 … some sins are mortal, some not. Rom 11:21,22 … spare branches, continue or be cut off. Pax And here is the difference, you are of Catholicism, I am of God. You misread Bam. I have total faith and trust in the Living God. He is the potter, I am merely the clay. So do I, DW. That’s why I’m Catholic. — Bruce "Soli Deo gloria"
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Sorry DW you are of Satan following the lies of Calvin, not the teachings of the church Christ founded. Sola scriptura Jn 21:25 … not everything is in the Bible. 2 Thess 2:15; 2 Tim 2:2; 1 Cor 11:2; 1 Thess 2:13 … Paul speaks of oral tradition. Acts 2:42 … early Christians followed apostolic tradition. 2 Pet 3:16 … Bible hard to understand, get distorted. 2 Jn 1:12; 3 Jn 1:13-14 … more oral tradition. 2 Pet 1:20-21 … against personal interpretation. Acts 8:31 … guidance needed to interpret scriptures. Sola fide Jas 2:14-26 … what good is faith w/o works? Heb 10:26 … must avoid sin. Jas 5:20 … "earning" forgiveness. Lk 6:46; Mt 7:21; Mt 19:16-21 … must do will of God. 1 Cor 9:27 … "buffet my body …" Phil 2:12; 2 Cor 5:10; Rom 2:6-10, 13, 3:31; Mt 25:32-46; Gal 6:6-10 … works have merit. 1 Jn 2:3-4; 1 Jn 3:24; 1 Jn 5:3 … keep commandments. Salvation (once and for all?) 1 Cor 9:27 … after preaching … I myself disqualified. 1 Cor 10:12 … thinks that he stands … lest he fall. Phil 2:12 … work out salvation with fear and trembling. Heb 4:1 … fear of failing to reach salvation. 1 Jn 5:16,17 … some sins are mortal, some not. Rom 11:21,22 … spare branches, continue or be cut off. Pax
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – And here is the difference, you are of Catholicism, I am of God. You misread Bam. I have total faith and trust in the Living God. He is the potter, I am merely the clay. So do I, DW. That’s why I’m Catholic. — Bruce "Soli Deo gloria"
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And here is the difference, you are of Catholicism, I am of God.
Oh brother, it’s getting deep now….what a joke…. — Bruce In the immortal words of Bugs Bunny, "What a maroon"…
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God has only one church, the invisible church of the firstborn, of the spirit and not of the physical, for this is the temple of the Holy Spirit of God; the one and only House of God where God dwells.
I guess we don’t believe the same thing. But something tells me, you’re an inch away from the Church. God calls you Bam, to come out from among them unto Him. It is God who is the Creator; the Teacher; The Father; The Provider, of all the needs of man. What house are the religions of man able to build that could contain God?
I believe Jesus referred to the Temple as "My Father’s House". There is none. God does not dwell among the dead, nor the dead works of mankind. Without the Holy Spirit of God all are dead. If one has the Holy Spirit of God, he is the living temple of this Spirit who dwells within him, and this is the House where God dwells and has placed His name. It is the house that God has built. Unless God builds the house it shall not stand but shall fall. Unless God creates the mind and spirit in mankind, he is none of God’s. Unless God teaches man His Truth man is void and empty of the Truth from God. God is the only Author and Teacher of Truth. By His works alone, mankind is saved.
Can’t really argue, here. You see Bam, God has no need for religions of man and has not established these; man has established religion as a substitute for the Living God I speak of. Think for a moment; what is there God cannot provide Himself by His works of promise?
I think you’re arguing an irrelevant point. I don’t believe in the Church because I think God "needs" it. I believe it because I believe God established it. The Grace of God comes from Himself by His promise Bam. Do you understand what God has promised and do you believe He is able to fulfill His
promises? Yes, if I stay faithful to His Church. Regards, BAM
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yes. But without the Church I wouldn’t know who God is or what God wants with me. How about the Bible? The Church reads the Bible to you. Another option might be reading it yourself. Don’t really need the church to tell you who God is or what he wants with you. They have the same guidebook available to them that you do. I have to give credit where credit’s due. I wouldn’t have survived on my own. Then you’re relying on the church for emotional/social/psychological reasons and that’s great. That’s all part of the "fellowship" the bible refers to that is so important for everyone to have. I don’t think the other guy was saying don’t have any church. I think he was saying you can get to God directly too… you don’t have to go through the church to get to him. I need the grace of the sacraments If you’re of the Christian Faith then you have the Grace of God through Christ’s death on the cross. Sacraments are just rituals to help you remember that and appreciate it. Its not the sacraments that bring you grace, its what they point to. This item too, is attainable completely independant of human rituals. Thats the beauty of christianity. and a roadmap to get through this life into the next. See response # 1 above. They’ve got the same roadmap you do. There isn’t anything up their robes hiding that you don’t know about which you need them for.
That’s where your wrong. Yhe Catholic road map contains a more direct route. If it weren’t for the Catholic Church, you would even have your map with an indirect route. — Bruce "Soli Deo gloria"
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God has only one church, the invisible church of the firstborn, of the spirit and not of the physical, for this is the temple of the Holy Spirit of God; the one and only House of God where God dwells. God calls you Bam, to come out from among them unto Him. It is God who is the Creator; the Teacher; The Father; The Provider, of all the needs of man. What house are the religions of man able to build that could contain God? There is none. God does not dwell among the dead, nor the dead works of mankind. Without the Holy Spirit of God all are dead. If one has the Holy Spirit of God, he is the living temple of this Spirit who dwells within him, and this is the House where God dwells and has placed His name. It is the house that God has built. Unless God builds the house it shall not stand but shall fall. Unless God creates the mind and spirit in mankind, he is none of God’s. Unless God teaches man His Truth man is void and empty of the Truth from God. God is the only Author and Teacher of Truth. By His works alone, mankind is saved. You see Bam, God has no need for religions of man and has not established these; man has established religion as a substitute for the Living God I speak of. Think for a moment; what is there God cannot provide Himself by His works of promise? The Grace of God comes from Himself by His promise Bam. Do you understand what God has promised and do you believe He is able to fulfill His promises? Do you understand the law of religion is the law of sin which man is set free from by the law of God? Paul explains the matter in this way; 13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith. 14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect: 15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. 16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all, 17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were. 18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be. 19 And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old, neither yet the deadness of Sarah’s womb: 20 He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God; 21 And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform. 22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness. 23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him; 24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; 25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification. 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: 2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. 3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; 4 And patience, experience; and experience, hope: 5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us. 6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die. 8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. 11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement. 12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: 13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. 15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. 16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification. 17 For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) 18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. 19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. 20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: 21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord. 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? 3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: 6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. 7 For he that is dead is freed from sin. 8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: 9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. 10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. 11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. 12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. 13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. 14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. 15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. 16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? 17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. 18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. 19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness. 20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness. 21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death. 22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. 7:1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth? 2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. 3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. 4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. 5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. 6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter. 7 What shall we say then? is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. 8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead. 9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. 10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. 11 For sin, taking occasion
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And here is the difference, you are of Catholicism, I am of God.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You misread Bam. I have total faith and trust in the Living God. He is the potter, I am merely the clay. So do I, DW. That’s why I’m Catholic. — Bruce "Soli Deo gloria"
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You misread Bam. I have total faith and trust in the Living God. He is the potter, I am merely the clay.
So do I, DW. That’s why I’m Catholic. — Bruce "Soli Deo gloria"
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You misread Bam. I have total faith and trust in the Living God. He is the potter, I am merely the clay.
Well said, DW. Now when God calls you to His Catholic Church don’t drag your heels. We won’t let you down. BAM
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How about the Bible? The Church reads the Bible to you. Another option might be reading it yourself. Don’t really need the church to tell you who God is or what he wants with you. They have the same guidebook available to them that you do.
Because if I read the Bible only, without the Church, I might leave myself open to knuckleheads like you. I have to give credit where credit’s due. I wouldn’t have survived on my own. Then you’re relying on the church for emotional/social/psychological reasons and that’s great. That’s all part of the "fellowship" the bible refers to that is so important for everyone to have. I don’t think the other guy was saying don’t have any church. I think he was saying you can get to God directly too… you don’t have to go through the church to get to him.
You make me sick. I rely on the Church because it is the Mystical Body of Christ. The Bible is ours, and you have no business reading it or interpreting it. I need the grace of the sacraments If you’re of the Christian Faith then you have the Grace of God through Christ’s death on the cross. Sacraments are just rituals to help you remember that and appreciate it. Its not the sacraments that bring you grace, its what they point to. This item too, is attainable completely independant of human rituals. Thats the beauty of christianity.
You know nothing. Shaddap. I trust the Church more than myself. You should too! I think you’re mixing the term "Church" with "God".
No egghead. I meant what I said. They can provide emotional, mental, psychological, moral support, and much more, but ill be damned if Im going to put my trust in a bunch of humans (the Church) over trusting God directly. Don’t confuse the terms. God is not the Church.
And you are nothing. I reject every word you’ve said. BAM
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Herein we differ for my faith and trust is in God alone. Take care Bam and be well. DW Suiter
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yes, I have gained. God is Faithful and True to His Word of promise. Indeed. God has never let me down Bam. I believe you. He is sufficient to supply all my needs. Assuredly so. I do not need the RCC or any religion of man. Well I’m glad you separated the two. Thanks for the offer. Have you considered only God ? Yes. But without the Church I wouldn’t know who God is or what God wants with me. I have to give credit where credit’s due. I wouldn’t have survived on my own. I need the grace of the sacraments, and a roadmap to get through this life into the next. I trust the Church more than myself. You should too! BAM
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Herein we differ for my faith and trust is in God alone.
But you must have complete trust in yourself to make this statement, and that’s where we differ. I neither trust you nor myself to any high degree. But I do trust the Church. Take care Bam and be well.
Et tu, DW. BAM
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You misread Bam. I have total faith and trust in the Living God. He is the potter, I am merely the clay.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Herein we differ for my faith and trust is in God alone. But you must have complete trust in yourself to make this statement, and that’s where we differ. I neither trust you nor myself to any high degree. But I do trust the Church. Take care Bam and be well. Et tu, DW. BAM
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Yes. But without the Church I wouldn’t know who God is or what God wants with me.
How about the Bible? The Church reads the Bible to you. Another option might be reading it yourself. Don’t really need the church to tell you who God is or what he wants with you. They have the same guidebook available to them that you do. I have to give credit where credit’s due. I wouldn’t have survived on my own.
Then you’re relying on the church for emotional/social/psychological reasons and that’s great. That’s all part of the "fellowship" the bible refers to that is so important for everyone to have. I don’t think the other guy was saying don’t have any church. I think he was saying you can get to God directly too… you don’t have to go through the church to get to him. I need the grace of the sacraments
If you’re of the Christian Faith then you have the Grace of God through Christ’s death on the cross. Sacraments are just rituals to help you remember that and appreciate it. Its not the sacraments that bring you grace, its what they point to. This item too, is attainable completely independant of human rituals. Thats the beauty of christianity. and a roadmap to get through this life into the next.
See response # 1 above. They’ve got the same roadmap you do. There isn’t anything up their robes hiding that you don’t know about which you need them for. I trust the Church more than myself. You should too!
I think you’re mixing the term "Church" with "God". The Church isn’t god. The church is a physical gathering of people who have faith in God. They can provide emotional, mental, psychological, moral support, and much more, but ill be damned if Im going to put my trust in a bunch of humans (the Church) over trusting God directly. Don’t confuse the terms. God is not the Church. HairlossTalk.com http://www.HairlossTalk.com/ An honest look at what works in the fight to stop hair loss. Before & After Photos, Discussion Forum, Product Reviews, Live Chat, Interviews, and more…
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Yes, I have gained. God is Faithful and True to His Word of promise.
Indeed. God has never let me down Bam.
I believe you. He is sufficient to supply all my needs.
Assuredly so. I do not need the RCC or any religion of man. Well I’m glad you separated the two. Thanks for the offer. Have you considered only God ?
Yes. But without the Church I wouldn’t know who God is or what God wants with me. I have to give credit where credit’s due. I wouldn’t have survived on my own. I need the grace of the sacraments, and a roadmap to get through this life into the next. I trust the Church more than myself. You should too! BAM
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A chuckle has been elicited. Yes, I have gained. God is Faithful and True to His Word of promise. God has never let me down Bam. He is sufficient to supply all my needs. I do not need the RCC or any religion of man. Thanks for the offer. Have you considered only God ? Take care. DW Suiter
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How are you Bam? I hope all is well with you and yours. DW, how’re things? Hope you have acheived the wisdom you have been seeking these past few years and have thrown your soul into the Catholic Church! We won’t let ‘ya down. BAM
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A chuckle has been elicited. Yes, I have gained. God is Faithful and True to His Word of promise. God has never let me down Bam. He is sufficient to supply all my needs. I do not need the RCC or any religion of man. Thanks for the offer. Have you considered only God ? Take care. DW Suiter
I did!!! that’s why I converted to bcome Catholic!!! — Bruce "Soli Deo gloria" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How are you Bam? I hope all is well with you and yours. DW, how’re things? Hope you have acheived the wisdom you have been seeking these past few years and have thrown your soul into the Catholic Church! We won’t let ‘ya down. BAM
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How are you Bam? I hope all is well with you and yours.
DW, how’re things? Hope you have acheived the wisdom you have been seeking these past few years and have thrown your soul into the Catholic Church! We won’t let ‘ya down. BAM
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Last one there’s a rotten egg. BAM
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How are you Bam? I hope all is well with you and yours. DW Suiter
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