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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Tony Miller wrote: > On 8 Feb 2005 10:37:29 -0800, MsLiz > <care…@msn.com> wrote: > > Tony Miller wrote: > >> On 7 Feb 2005 19:45:11 -0800, MsLiz > >> <care…@msn.com> wrote: > >> > Decency Advocate wrote: > >> >> Thought some of you folks in here would like info on a psychology > >> > radio > >> >> call-in program whereby Psychologists disect problems give very > > good > >> >> advice to Callers with marital/family difficulties .. some being > > very > >> >> huge.  I catch it everyday and have learned alot . > >> >> Here is their nationwide radio station Listing along with the > > times > >> > that > >> >> its aired for your locale : > >> >> Address:http://www.cloudtownsend.com/Events/Radio.htm > >> > INteresting how you omitted that it’s a faith based show.  I detest > >> > sneakiness. > >> So what? > >> -Tony > >> — > >> "If the grass appears to be greener on the other side of the fence, > > it’s time > >> to fertilize your lawn!" > >> Want to jump start your marriage?  Consider a Marriage Encounter > > weekend. > >> Check out http://www.wwme.org for more information. > > I wasn’t talking to you but since you asked…. > > If were to give a link to  a "psychology" show and it was strictly > > through a Jewish perspective, I would mention that being that I don’t > > want to mislead anyone who expects it to be a psychological approach > > rather than a faith based approach. > You believe psychological approaches cannot be faith based?

I beleive that it is a biased form of counseling however, if it upfront, open and honest that it is faith baised then whoever chooses it makes no difference to me.  I just don’t like agencies that don’t advertise it before they suck you in. > > It appears that my personal feelings touched one of your nerves, just > No, you just seem to be "religophobic".

Nah, I really don’t care what others practice, honestly.  I respect people’s choices. What I don’t care for is sneakiness and deception. I’m not sure why this concept is so hard to comprehend in this post. > > as the OP touched one of mine.  It reminds me of how some of the so > > called "crisis pregnancy" centers lure women in and scare the bejeebees > > out of them by showing them a picture as a fetus.  They advertise > So how would a picture of a fetus (especially one peacefully sucking his > or her thumb in the womb) scare someone?  Does it scare you?

Tony you’re not addressing the issue.  It’s plain and simple.  If someone, an agency, a therapist or a dentist has a practice where it is based on Christianity, I really have no interest in choosing that person.  It’s not my thing.  I don’t hate it nor do I even care enough about it to dislike it, I want to believe in what I believe and not be deceived in order to get me in the door.  Period!  Please don’t misinterpret and label me as something that I am not.  I married men who are not Jewish and one was raised in a church and the other as a Christian Scientist.  Neither of them practiced their religion when we married.  I would not have married them if they did.  We all have choices.  A choice or feeling does not equate to fear. > > themselves as caring, empathic and always there to help a young woman > > experiencing an unplanned pregnancy (in a gentle environment). Then > > out comes the bible. > Gentle, caring and the Bible are not mutually exclusive.

I knew that you ‘d argue how "I feel". > I don’t think you have a lot of experience with crisis pregnancy centers, > since you are so against adoption and appear to be an advocate of killing > children in the womb, but hey, it takes all kinds.  See Tony, it’s

inherent in you to criticize my feelings while I’m not criticizing yours.  I’m simply letting you know how "I" feel. Tony, it’s really senseless for you to assume to know my reality.  I have enough experience with these centers to know that I don’t send clients there if they want to get educated about all of their options. I know enough about them to know that they don’t advertise that they don’t offer all 3 options.  I have applied for counseling jobs at Bethany and New Hope (knowing that they were affiliated with some religion but wasn’t sure which).  They felt that I was qualified and were ready to hire me until the last moment when they asked….YOu do attend church every Sunday, right?  I said, well accutally I"m Jewish so no, I don’t attend church.  They informed me that attending church was a requirement, which was not in the ad and they also told me that at their agency not only do their adoptive parents have to go to church, but no adoptive families can adopt with out attending church, no families can adopt if they already have a child and a few other requirements that blew me away.  So actually it was the agency that rejected me.  Talk about religionphobia! > > I know that it’s senseless to discuss this with you Tony since we are > > on opposite sides of the fence, but I don’t like deception.  You can > > have whatever belief you have and do whatever you choose to do in life, > > but don’t mislead others on your journey.  That’s my outlook.  And we > > don’t agree.  Feel free to scream out curse words and tell me how > > stupid I am.  Your MO is easy to predict. > No, I don’t think you’re stupid, and that’s what makes it so

frightening. Well you ‘ve called me stupid in the past amongst other things and I find it difficult to have an adult conversation with you.  This is as close to one that we’ve ever had and I do appreciate it. > I’m going to have a Jeanne Dixon moment and predict that within 4 years, > the abomination of Roe v. Wade will be overturned, and the legality of > abortion will be sent to the people.

I wish that I could predict the future. > Things will change.

I hope that they do and for the better I might add.  Of course "the better" means different things to each of us.  That won’t change. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> -Tony > — > "If the grass appears to be greener on the other side of the fence, it’s time > to fertilize your lawn!" > Want to jump start your marriage?  Consider a Marriage Encounter weekend. > Check out http://www.wwme.org for more information.

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On 8 Feb 2005 10:37:29 -0800, MsLiz – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<care…@msn.com> wrote: > Tony Miller wrote: >> On 7 Feb 2005 19:45:11 -0800, MsLiz >> <care…@msn.com> wrote: >> > Decency Advocate wrote: >> >> Thought some of you folks in here would like info on a psychology >> > radio >> >> call-in program whereby Psychologists disect problems give very > good >> >> advice to Callers with marital/family difficulties .. some being > very >> >> huge.  I catch it everyday and have learned alot . >> >> Here is their nationwide radio station Listing along with the > times >> > that >> >> its aired for your locale : >> >> Address:http://www.cloudtownsend.com/Events/Radio.htm >> > INteresting how you omitted that it’s a faith based show.  I detest >> > sneakiness. >> So what? >> -Tony >> — >> "If the grass appears to be greener on the other side of the fence, > it’s time >> to fertilize your lawn!" >> Want to jump start your marriage?  Consider a Marriage Encounter > weekend. >> Check out http://www.wwme.org for more information. > I wasn’t talking to you but since you asked…. > If were to give a link to  a "psychology" show and it was strictly > through a Jewish perspective, I would mention that being that I don’t > want to mislead anyone who expects it to be a psychological approach > rather than a faith based approach.

You believe psychological approaches cannot be faith based? > It appears that my personal feelings touched one of your nerves, just

No, you just seem to be "religophobic". > as the OP touched one of mine.  It reminds me of how some of the so > called "crisis pregnancy" centers lure women in and scare the bejeebees > out of them by showing them a picture as a fetus.  They advertise

So how would a picture of a fetus (especially one peacefully sucking his or her thumb in the womb) scare someone?  Does it scare you? > themselves as caring, empathic and always there to help a young woman > experiencing an unplanned pregnancy (in a gentle environment).  Then > out comes the bible.

Gentle, caring and the Bible are not mutually exclusive. I don’t think you have a lot of experience with crisis pregnancy centers, since you are so against adoption and appear to be an advocate of killing children in the womb, but hey, it takes all kinds. > I know that it’s senseless to discuss this with you Tony since we are > on opposite sides of the fence, but I don’t like deception.  You can > have whatever belief you have and do whatever you choose to do in life, > but don’t mislead others on your journey.  That’s my outlook.  And we > don’t agree.  Feel free to scream out curse words and tell me how > stupid I am.  Your MO is easy to predict.

No, I don’t think you’re stupid, and that’s what makes it so frightening. I’m going to have a Jeanne Dixon moment and predict that within 4 years, the abomination of Roe v. Wade will be overturned, and the legality of abortion will be sent to the people. Things will change. -Tony — "If the grass appears to be greener on the other side of the fence, it’s time to fertilize your lawn!" Want to jump start your marriage?  Consider a Marriage Encounter weekend. Check out http://www.wwme.org for more information.

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On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 16:35:20 -0800, pixelfreak – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<n…@dot.com> wrote: > On 2005-02-08 04:30:11 -0800, Tony Miller <t…@cigardiary.com> said: >> On 7 Feb 2005 19:45:11 -0800, MsLiz <care…@msn.com> wrote: >>> Decency Advocate wrote: >>>> Thought some of you folks in here would like info on a psychology >>> radio >>>> call-in program whereby Psychologists disect problems give very good >>>> advice to Callers with marital/family difficulties .. some being very >>>> huge.  I catch it everyday and have learned alot . >>>> Here is their nationwide radio station Listing along with the times >>> that >>>> its aired for your locale : >>> INteresting how you omitted that it’s a faith based show.  I detest >>> sneakiness. >> So what? >> -Tony > false pretense.

The guy said that it was a good psychology radio talk show.  So if the guy is religious, so what.  It might still be a good psychology radio talk show. Dr. Laura is a "psychology show" that’s faith based.     -Tony — "If the grass appears to be greener on the other side of the fence, it’s time to fertilize your lawn!" Want to jump start your marriage?  Consider a Marriage Encounter weekend. Check out http://www.wwme.org for more information.

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Decency Advocate wrote: > ‘INteresting how you omitted that it’s a faith based show. I detest > sneakiness.’ > ME:  It goes without saying.  Any call in radio show that trys to help > with marriage problems has ‘faith’ in the sanctity of marriage .  You > have FAITH in the marriage institution dont you ?

Okay, I’ll change the word to Christian based.  And no, not every marriage is Christian based.  Not all counseling is Christian based. Not all adoption agencies are Christian based.  A radio show that is Christian based is going to have a slant.  If you happend to believe in that stuff, go for it.  I just find it offensive when someone leads me somewhere without mentioning that is has something to do with Jesus.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Decency Advocate wrote: > ‘I really wasn’t addressing anyone in particular. I was stating that I > don’t care what path anyone takes, just don’t mislead others on the > journey. What am I missing here?’ > Liz,  Whether or not one follows the Christian faith or not, this Radio > Show has very useful information regarding the topics of marital > struggles, divorce, family issues, adultery, etc…. I dont feel i was > misleading anyone by posting info on a good Radio Talk Show Program with > callers who have legitimate concerns that we can all learn and grow > from.   If it happened to be a ‘Secular’ Radio Call in Show that > promoted healthy suggestions and advice (which is impossible of our > present culture..) , then i would have suggested it too.

I don’t doubt that you find it helpful.  All I said is that if were going to mention helping others and it had a religious twist, no matter what the religion _I_ would mention it to my audience.  For some reason you’re missing my point.  I guess it’s not worth repeating myself. Enjoy your show!  I"m sure that some in here will enjoy it too.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -pixelfreak wrote: > On 2005-02-08 14:39:37 -0800, DecencyAdvoc…@webtv.net (Decency > Advocate) said: > <snip> > > struggles, divorce, family issues, adultery, etc…. I dont feel i was > > misleading anyone by posting info on a good Radio Talk Show Program with > > callers who have legitimate concerns that we can all learn and grow > > from.   If it happened to be a ‘Secular’ Radio Call in Show that > > promoted healthy suggestions and advice (which is impossible of our > > present culture..) , then i would have suggested it too. > So what are these impossibilities that are inherent to ‘present > culture’  with respect to secular radio?? > I’m getting the feeling that I’m looking down a straw. > — > thepixelfreak

Thank you for the comic relief.  Sheesh, do I need a megaphone???  :-)

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Thought some of you folks in here would like info on a psychology radio call-in program whereby Psychologists disect problems give very good advice to Callers with marital/family difficulties .. some being very huge.  I catch it everyday and have learned alot . Here is their nationwide radio station Listing along with the times that its aired for your locale : Address:http://www.cloudtownsend.com/Events/Radio.htm

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Decency Advocate wrote: > Thought some of you folks in here would like info on a psychology radio > call-in program whereby Psychologists disect problems give very good > advice to Callers with marital/family difficulties .. some being very > huge.  I catch it everyday and have learned alot . > Here is their nationwide radio station Listing along with the times that > its aired for your locale : > Address:http://www.cloudtownsend.com/Events/Radio.htm

Or you can watch Frasier.

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On 2005-02-08 14:39:37 -0800, DecencyAdvoc…@webtv.net (Decency Advocate) said: <snip> > struggles, divorce, family issues, adultery, etc…. I dont feel i was > misleading anyone by posting info on a good Radio Talk Show Program with > callers who have legitimate concerns that we can all learn and grow > from.   If it happened to be a ‘Secular’ Radio Call in Show that > promoted healthy suggestions and advice (which is impossible of our > present culture..) , then i would have suggested it too.

So what are these impossibilities that are inherent to ‘present culture’  with respect to secular radio?? I’m getting the feeling that I’m looking down a straw. — thepixelfreak

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If you look far enuf down that straw, you may see dave’s fundy brain (DA now being just the latest of a long line of names he hides under)

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She has NO faith in an uneducated sneaky fundy like you and your ilk dave (why not tell pixel how long you were married, but as he nevers answers a question it was only two years)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Bill in Co. wrote: > MsLiz wrote: > > Bill in Co. wrote: > >> MsLiz wrote: > >>> Tony Miller wrote: > >>>> On 7 Feb 2005 19:45:11 -0800, MsLiz > >>>> <care…@msn.com> wrote: > >>>>> Decency Advocate wrote: > >>>>>> Thought some of you folks in here would like info on a psychology > radio > >>>>>> call-in program whereby Psychologists disect problems give very good > >>>>>> advice to Callers with marital/family difficulties .. some being very > >>>>>> huge.  I catch it everyday and have learned alot . > >>>>>> Here is their nationwide radio station Listing along with the times > that > >>>>>> its aired for your locale : > >>>>>> Address:http://www.cloudtownsend.com/Events/Radio.htm > >>>>> INteresting how you omitted that it’s a faith based show.  I detest > >>>>> sneakiness. > >>>> So what? > >>>> -Tony > >>>> — > >>>> "If the grass appears to be greener on the other side of the fence, > it’s > >>>> time to fertilize your lawn!" > >>>> Want to jump start your marriage?  Consider a Marriage Encounter > weekend. > >>>> Check out http://www.wwme.org for more information. > >>> I wasn’t talking to you but since you asked…. > >>> If were to give a link to  a "psychology" show and it was strictly > >>> through a Jewish perspective, I would mention that being that I don’t > >>> want to mislead anyone who expects it to be a psychological approach > >>> rather than a faith based approach. > >>> It appears that my personal feelings touched one of your nerves, just > >>> as the OP touched one of mine.  It reminds me of how some of the so > >>> called "crisis pregnancy" centers lure women in and scare the bejeebees > >>> out of them by showing them a picture as a fetus.  They advertise > >>> themselves as caring, empathic and always there to help a young woman > >>> experiencing an unplanned pregnancy (in a gentle environment). Then > >>> out comes the bible. > >>> I know that it’s senseless to discuss this with you Tony since we are > >>> on opposite sides of the fence, but I don’t like deception.  You can > >>> have whatever belief you have and do whatever you choose to do in life, > >>> but don’t mislead others on your journey.  That’s my outlook. > >> Mislead????    LOL.     (WHO is following Tony on his journey)? > > I don’t understand your question(s). > You told him not to mislead others.    WHAT others (if ANY) are you thinking > of, that would or could be so easily misled by him on his journey (per > above)?

I"m not looking to name people if that’s what you’re getting at.  In general, I like people to be up front.  If you’re a faith based agency…say so.  If your method of counseling is faith based, say so. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >>> And we don’t agree.  Feel free to scream out curse words and tell me how > >>> stupid I am.  Your MO is easy to predict.

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‘but I don’t like deception. You can have whatever belief you have and do whatever you choose to do in life, but don’t mislead others on your journey. That’s my outlook. ‘ ME:  The Radio Show is Christian Psychology ;  what is ’sneaky’ about that ??   You believe in a Creator same as everyone else on earth because it is inherent in our being to know that there MUST be a Creator for all the super-complexity we see around us ; and that also includes our Inner Being and the way we are wired up.  Listening to Christian Psychology is a very refreshing change from the adverse cultural teachings on irresponsibility issues such as divorce if you ‘feel’ like it,  have sex with whomever you ‘feel’ like,  morality is what YOU ‘think’ it is,  and … elevate  yourself thru hedonism because you are your own ‘god’.    When i posted that Radio Station Listing, it was to help those who struggle with thier marriage , or, from going thru a divorce ; because it has a distinctive Christian flavor to it shouldnt be frowned upon….once this nation embraced the God of this Universe and his principles for right living.  Its quite apparent what happens to society when a huge number of people turn their eyes away from God and his commands meant for our own protection.

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On 2005-02-08 04:30:11 -0800, Tony Miller <t…@cigardiary.com> said: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On 7 Feb 2005 19:45:11 -0800, MsLiz <care…@msn.com> wrote: >> Decency Advocate wrote: >>> Thought some of you folks in here would like info on a psychology >> radio >>> call-in program whereby Psychologists disect problems give very good >>> advice to Callers with marital/family difficulties .. some being very >>> huge.  I catch it everyday and have learned alot . >>> Here is their nationwide radio station Listing along with the times >> that >>> its aired for your locale : >> INteresting how you omitted that it’s a faith based show.  I detest >> sneakiness. > So what? > -Tony

false pretense. — thepixelfreak

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‘INteresting how you omitted that it’s a faith based show. I detest sneakiness.’ ME:  It goes without saying.  Any call in radio show that trys to help with marriage problems has ‘faith’ in the sanctity of marriage .  You have FAITH in the marriage institution dont you ?

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‘I really wasn’t addressing anyone in particular. I was stating that I don’t care what path anyone takes, just don’t mislead others on the journey. What am I missing here?’ Liz,  Whether or not one follows the Christian faith or not, this Radio Show has very useful information regarding the topics of marital struggles, divorce, family issues, adultery, etc…. I dont feel i was misleading anyone by posting info on a good Radio Talk Show Program with callers who have legitimate concerns that we can all learn and grow from.   If it happened to be a ‘Secular’ Radio Call in Show that promoted healthy suggestions and advice (which is impossible of our present culture..) , then i would have suggested it too.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Bill in Co. wrote: > MsLiz wrote: > > Bill in Co. wrote: > >> MsLiz wrote: > >>> Tony Miller wrote: > >>>> On 7 Feb 2005 19:45:11 -0800, MsLiz > >>>> <care…@msn.com> wrote: > >>>>> Decency Advocate wrote: > >>>>>> Thought some of you folks in here would like info on a psychology > radio > >>>>>> call-in program whereby Psychologists disect problems give very good > >>>>>> advice to Callers with marital/family difficulties .. some being very > >>>>>> huge.  I catch it everyday and have learned alot . > >>>>>> Here is their nationwide radio station Listing along with the times > that > >>>>>> its aired for your locale : > >>>>>> Address:http://www.cloudtownsend.com/Events/Radio.htm > >>>>> INteresting how you omitted that it’s a faith based show.  I detest > >>>>> sneakiness. > >>>> So what? > >>>> -Tony > >>>> — > >>>> "If the grass appears to be greener on the other side of the fence, > it’s > >>>> time to fertilize your lawn!" > >>>> Want to jump start your marriage?  Consider a Marriage Encounter > weekend. > >>>> Check out http://www.wwme.org for more information. > >>> I wasn’t talking to you but since you asked…. > >>> If were to give a link to  a "psychology" show and it was strictly > >>> through a Jewish perspective, I would mention that being that I don’t > >>> want to mislead anyone who expects it to be a psychological approach > >>> rather than a faith based approach. > >>> It appears that my personal feelings touched one of your nerves, just > >>> as the OP touched one of mine.  It reminds me of how some of the so > >>> called "crisis pregnancy" centers lure women in and scare the bejeebees > >>> out of them by showing them a picture as a fetus.  They advertise > >>> themselves as caring, empathic and always there to help a young woman > >>> experiencing an unplanned pregnancy (in a gentle environment). Then > >>> out comes the bible. > >>> I know that it’s senseless to discuss this with you Tony since we are > >>> on opposite sides of the fence, but I don’t like deception.  You can > >>> have whatever belief you have and do whatever you choose to do in life, > >>> but don’t mislead others on your journey.  That’s my outlook. > >> Mislead????    LOL.     (WHO is following Tony on his journey)? > > I don’t understand your question(s). > You told him not to mislead others.    WHAT others (if ANY) are you thinking > of, that would or could be so easily misled by him on his journey (per > above)? > >>> And we don’t agree.  Feel free to scream out curse words and tell me how > >>> stupid I am.  Your MO is easy to predict.

I really wasn’t addressing anyone in particular.  I was stating that I don’t care what path anyone takes, just don’t mislead others on the journey.  What am I missing here?

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -MsLiz wrote: > Bill in Co. wrote: >> MsLiz wrote: >>> Tony Miller wrote: >>>> On 7 Feb 2005 19:45:11 -0800, MsLiz >>>> <care…@msn.com> wrote: >>>>> Decency Advocate wrote: >>>>>> Thought some of you folks in here would like info on a psychology radio >>>>>> call-in program whereby Psychologists disect problems give very good >>>>>> advice to Callers with marital/family difficulties .. some being very >>>>>> huge.  I catch it everyday and have learned alot . >>>>>> Here is their nationwide radio station Listing along with the times that >>>>>> its aired for your locale : >>>>>> Address:http://www.cloudtownsend.com/Events/Radio.htm >>>>> INteresting how you omitted that it’s a faith based show.  I detest >>>>> sneakiness. >>>> So what? >>>> -Tony >>>> — >>>> "If the grass appears to be greener on the other side of the fence, it’s >>>> time to fertilize your lawn!" >>>> Want to jump start your marriage?  Consider a Marriage Encounter weekend. >>>> Check out http://www.wwme.org for more information. >>> I wasn’t talking to you but since you asked…. >>> If were to give a link to  a "psychology" show and it was strictly >>> through a Jewish perspective, I would mention that being that I don’t >>> want to mislead anyone who expects it to be a psychological approach >>> rather than a faith based approach. >>> It appears that my personal feelings touched one of your nerves, just >>> as the OP touched one of mine.  It reminds me of how some of the so >>> called "crisis pregnancy" centers lure women in and scare the bejeebees >>> out of them by showing them a picture as a fetus.  They advertise >>> themselves as caring, empathic and always there to help a young woman >>> experiencing an unplanned pregnancy (in a gentle environment). Then >>> out comes the bible. >>> I know that it’s senseless to discuss this with you Tony since we are >>> on opposite sides of the fence, but I don’t like deception.  You can >>> have whatever belief you have and do whatever you choose to do in life, >>> but don’t mislead others on your journey.  That’s my outlook. >> Mislead????    LOL.     (WHO is following Tony on his journey)? > I don’t understand your question(s).

You told him not to mislead others.    WHAT others (if ANY) are you thinking of, that would or could be so easily misled by him on his journey (per above)? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>> And we don’t agree.  Feel free to scream out curse words and tell me how >>> stupid I am.  Your MO is easy to predict.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -MsLiz wrote: > Tony Miller wrote: >> On 7 Feb 2005 19:45:11 -0800, MsLiz >> <care…@msn.com> wrote: >>> Decency Advocate wrote: >>>> Thought some of you folks in here would like info on a psychology radio >>>> call-in program whereby Psychologists disect problems give very good >>>> advice to Callers with marital/family difficulties .. some being very >>>> huge.  I catch it everyday and have learned alot . >>>> Here is their nationwide radio station Listing along with the times that >>>> its aired for your locale : >>>> Address:http://www.cloudtownsend.com/Events/Radio.htm >>> INteresting how you omitted that it’s a faith based show.  I detest >>> sneakiness. >> So what? >> -Tony >> — >> "If the grass appears to be greener on the other side of the fence, it’s time >> to fertilize your lawn!" >> Want to jump start your marriage?  Consider a Marriage Encounter weekend. >> Check out http://www.wwme.org for more information. > I wasn’t talking to you but since you asked…. > If were to give a link to  a "psychology" show and it was strictly > through a Jewish perspective, I would mention that being that I don’t > want to mislead anyone who expects it to be a psychological approach > rather than a faith based approach. > It appears that my personal feelings touched one of your nerves, just > as the OP touched one of mine.  It reminds me of how some of the so > called "crisis pregnancy" centers lure women in and scare the bejeebees > out of them by showing them a picture as a fetus.  They advertise > themselves as caring, empathic and always there to help a young woman > experiencing an unplanned pregnancy (in a gentle environment).  Then > out comes the bible. > I know that it’s senseless to discuss this with you Tony since we are > on opposite sides of the fence, but I don’t like deception.  You can > have whatever belief you have and do whatever you choose to do in life, > but don’t mislead others on your journey.  That’s my outlook.

Mislead????    LOL.     (WHO is following Tony on his journey)? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> And we don’t agree.  Feel free to scream out curse words and tell me how > stupid I am.  Your MO is easy to predict.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Bill in Co. wrote: > MsLiz wrote: > > Tony Miller wrote: > >> On 7 Feb 2005 19:45:11 -0800, MsLiz > >> <care…@msn.com> wrote: > >>> Decency Advocate wrote: > >>>> Thought some of you folks in here would like info on a psychology radio > >>>> call-in program whereby Psychologists disect problems give very good > >>>> advice to Callers with marital/family difficulties .. some being very > >>>> huge.  I catch it everyday and have learned alot . > >>>> Here is their nationwide radio station Listing along with the times > that > >>>> its aired for your locale : > >>>> Address:http://www.cloudtownsend.com/Events/Radio.htm > >>> INteresting how you omitted that it’s a faith based show.  I detest > >>> sneakiness. > >> So what? > >> -Tony > >> — > >> "If the grass appears to be greener on the other side of the fence, it’s > time > >> to fertilize your lawn!" > >> Want to jump start your marriage?  Consider a Marriage Encounter weekend. > >> Check out http://www.wwme.org for more information. > > I wasn’t talking to you but since you asked…. > > If were to give a link to  a "psychology" show and it was strictly > > through a Jewish perspective, I would mention that being that I don’t > > want to mislead anyone who expects it to be a psychological approach > > rather than a faith based approach. > > It appears that my personal feelings touched one of your nerves, just > > as the OP touched one of mine.  It reminds me of how some of the so > > called "crisis pregnancy" centers lure women in and scare the bejeebees > > out of them by showing them a picture as a fetus.  They advertise > > themselves as caring, empathic and always there to help a young woman > > experiencing an unplanned pregnancy (in a gentle environment). Then > > out comes the bible. > > I know that it’s senseless to discuss this with you Tony since we are > > on opposite sides of the fence, but I don’t like deception.  You can > > have whatever belief you have and do whatever you choose to do in life, > > but don’t mislead others on your journey.  That’s my outlook. > Mislead????    LOL.     (WHO is following Tony on his journey)?

I don’t understand your question(s). – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > And we don’t agree.  Feel free to scream out curse words and tell me how > > stupid I am.  Your MO is easy to predict.

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EVERYTHING DAVE DOES IS SNEAKY >From his changing his web name more often than I change my underware,

to making up a new webtv address to agree whth his own posts when no one else will

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Tony Miller wrote: > On 7 Feb 2005 19:45:11 -0800, MsLiz > <care…@msn.com> wrote: > > Decency Advocate wrote: > >> Thought some of you folks in here would like info on a psychology > > radio > >> call-in program whereby Psychologists disect problems give very good > >> advice to Callers with marital/family difficulties .. some being very > >> huge.  I catch it everyday and have learned alot . > >> Here is their nationwide radio station Listing along with the times > > that > >> its aired for your locale : > >> Address:http://www.cloudtownsend.com/Events/Radio.htm > > INteresting how you omitted that it’s a faith based show.  I detest > > sneakiness. > So what? > -Tony > — > "If the grass appears to be greener on the other side of the fence, it’s time > to fertilize your lawn!" > Want to jump start your marriage?  Consider a Marriage Encounter weekend. > Check out http://www.wwme.org for more information.

I wasn’t talking to you but since you asked…. If were to give a link to  a "psychology" show and it was strictly through a Jewish perspective, I would mention that being that I don’t want to mislead anyone who expects it to be a psychological approach rather than a faith based approach. It appears that my personal feelings touched one of your nerves, just as the OP touched one of mine.  It reminds me of how some of the so called "crisis pregnancy" centers lure women in and scare the bejeebees out of them by showing them a picture as a fetus.  They advertise themselves as caring, empathic and always there to help a young woman experiencing an unplanned pregnancy (in a gentle environment).  Then out comes the bible. I know that it’s senseless to discuss this with you Tony since we are on opposite sides of the fence, but I don’t like deception.  You can have whatever belief you have and do whatever you choose to do in life, but don’t mislead others on your journey.  That’s my outlook.  And we don’t agree.  Feel free to scream out curse words and tell me how stupid I am.  Your MO is easy to predict.

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Or dave can get out some of his kiddy porn

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Decency Advocate wrote: > Thought some of you folks in here would like info on a psychology radio > call-in program whereby Psychologists disect problems give very good > advice to Callers with marital/family difficulties .. some being very > huge.  I catch it everyday and have learned alot . > Here is their nationwide radio station Listing along with the times that > its aired for your locale : > Address:http://www.cloudtownsend.com/Events/Radio.htm

INteresting how you omitted that it’s a faith based show.  I detest sneakiness.

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On 7 Feb 2005 19:45:11 -0800, MsLiz – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<care…@msn.com> wrote: > Decency Advocate wrote: >> Thought some of you folks in here would like info on a psychology > radio >> call-in program whereby Psychologists disect problems give very good >> advice to Callers with marital/family difficulties .. some being very >> huge.  I catch it everyday and have learned alot . >> Here is their nationwide radio station Listing along with the times > that >> its aired for your locale : >> Address:http://www.cloudtownsend.com/Events/Radio.htm > INteresting how you omitted that it’s a faith based show.  I detest > sneakiness.

So what? -Tony — "If the grass appears to be greener on the other side of the fence, it’s time to fertilize your lawn!" Want to jump start your marriage?  Consider a Marriage Encounter weekend. Check out http://www.wwme.org for more information.

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