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Vilma <V…@hotbox.ru> writes: > It also considers sex to be for procreation and not lust based reasons but > in todays society the majority reason for sex is desire and fun and > bonding. I think it is more New Testamnet where sex is considered ok > between man and wife for reasons other than babies. I can’t quote passages > but this is what I’ve been led to understand from previous reading.
OK. I’m still wondering whether there are NT passages which indicate that inviting a third person into the marriage bed is a sin. The fact that the early church tolerated polygamy doesn’t rule out the existence of such passages (since most religions have tolerated a certain amount of hypocrisy anyway) but I’d still like to know what they are. Doug
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On 29 Oct 2004 09:37:23 -0700, Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovet…@yahoo.com> wrote:
<Snip> > If you want a secondary citation (rather than documentation of > multiply maried Christians), here is an article from the National > Catholic Reporter which mentions that "by the third century, > _Bishops_ were denied the right to a second marriage!" > http://www.natcath.org/NCR_Online/archives/041202/041202s.htm
If you make the assumption that it’s the "right to a second marriage" and not just concubinage. > And here is another from a Catholic source (explaning why the author > believes the NT prohibits polygamy) which refers to the fact that > polygamy continued to be practiced by priests up through the > middle ages. > http://catholic-legate.com/qa/polygamy.html > Now you may want to cavil that the second and third wives were > technically concubines (at least for priests) but I don’t find that a > particularly important distinction in this context.
If you read your own quote: "And, again, keeping in mind that Scriptural Greek is much more precise than modern English, look at what the Lord says earlier in this very passage (in Matt 19:4-5), where He quotes the text of Genesis, saying "Have you not read …’the TWO shall become ONE flesh.’ Jesus quotes Genesis, which speaks of "the two" becoming "one," and then adds that no additional human being (no "anthropos") may separate, or come between, these "two." This alone illustrates why (despite the examples of Abraham, Jacob, David, and Solomon, etc.) polygamy was never accepted in the Church. And, atop all this, as I touched on above, polygamy was simply not recognized by imperial Roman law. Rather, in a 1st Century Greco-Roman context (which is clearly the cultural context of 1 Tim 3:2), any woman that a man might keep, in addition to his wife, was seen only as a concubine …and thus an extra-marital relationship, per Jesus’ reference to "unchastity" / "fornication" / "unlawful marriage" in Matt 19:9. …And thus not something which the Church could permit in any shape or form, let alone in terms of candidates for the episcopate." You will really have to do much better than this. Polygamy is very strictly defined. If you’d like to amend your statement, feel free. -Tony — "If the grass appears to be greener on the other side of the fence, it’s time to fertilize your lawn!" Want to jump start your marriage? Consider a Marriage Encounter weekend. Check out http://www.wwme.org for more information.
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Vilma <V…@hotbox.ru> writes: > On 28 Oct 2004 08:03:07 -0700, Caren wrote: > > Is it immoral to bring a 3rd (or more) partner into the bedroom when > > both partners consent to it? Although it’s not cheating (in the > > literal sense of hiding something), is it still considered cheating? > If you have a belief in a christian based God then yes it is cheating. Even > if you believe personally that it is ok (and it doesn’t bother you or your > husband/wife) it is still cheating in the eyes of God.
Can you explain why? Polygyny certainly coexisted with the early Christian church. > On a personal note I have been involved in such a relationship in the past > and did not find it was successful for all parties involved. Somebody > always seems to get left out or is jealous of another involved. I have > found it is the quickest way to end a relationship or put strain on it.
Yes, this seems like the better question here. Not "is it moral," but "is it wise?" (And maybe "is it practical?") If this was one of my life goals, these are the points I’d be concerned about. (snip summary of experience) Doug
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On 28 Oct 2004 21:18:50 -0700, Doug Anderson wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Vilma <V…@hotbox.ru> writes: >> On 28 Oct 2004 08:03:07 -0700, Caren wrote: >>> Is it immoral to bring a 3rd (or more) partner into the bedroom when >>> both partners consent to it? Although it’s not cheating (in the >>> literal sense of hiding something), is it still considered cheating? >> If you have a belief in a christian based God then yes it is cheating. Even >> if you believe personally that it is ok (and it doesn’t bother you or your >> husband/wife) it is still cheating in the eyes of God. > Can you explain why? Polygyny certainly coexisted with the early > Christian church. >> On a personal note I have been involved in such a relationship in the past >> and did not find it was successful for all parties involved. Somebody >> always seems to get left out or is jealous of another involved. I have >> found it is the quickest way to end a relationship or put strain on it. > Yes, this seems like the better question here. Not "is it moral," but > "is it wise?" (And maybe "is it practical?") If this was one of my > life goals, these are the points I’d be concerned about. > (snip summary of experience) > Doug
I guess you could argue this, but it’s a matter of interpretation, it says that this sort of thing is forbidden in the bible. 10 commandments on adultery and elsewhere. It doesn’t say "thou shalt not commit adultery unless all parties concerned don’t mind". If you see it from God’s point of view then he considers it adultery.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Vilma <V…@hotbox.ru> writes: > On 28 Oct 2004 21:18:50 -0700, Doug Anderson wrote: > > Vilma <V…@hotbox.ru> writes: > >> On 28 Oct 2004 08:03:07 -0700, Caren wrote: > >>> Is it immoral to bring a 3rd (or more) partner into the bedroom when > >>> both partners consent to it? Although it’s not cheating (in the > >>> literal sense of hiding something), is it still considered cheating? > >> If you have a belief in a christian based God then yes it is cheating. Even > >> if you believe personally that it is ok (and it doesn’t bother you or your > >> husband/wife) it is still cheating in the eyes of God. > > Can you explain why? Polygyny certainly coexisted with the early > > Christian church. > >> On a personal note I have been involved in such a relationship in the past > >> and did not find it was successful for all parties involved. Somebody > >> always seems to get left out or is jealous of another involved. I have > >> found it is the quickest way to end a relationship or put strain on it. > > Yes, this seems like the better question here. Not "is it moral," but > > "is it wise?" (And maybe "is it practical?") If this was one of my > > life goals, these are the points I’d be concerned about. > > (snip summary of experience) > I guess you could argue this, but it’s a matter of interpretation, it says > that this sort of thing is forbidden in the bible. 10 commandments on > adultery and elsewhere. It doesn’t say "thou shalt not commit adultery > unless all parties concerned don’t mind".
I think you have to ask what the bible meant by adultery. The 10 commandments are Old Testament territory. And certainly the Old Testament condoned polygamy. King David, for example. Furthermore, you have stories like Abraham, Sarah, and Hagar. > If you see it from God’s point of > view then he considers it adultery.
Who is it who knows what god’s point of view is? Doug
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"Vilma" <V…@hotbox.ru> wrote in message
news:k1kheygufpaf.1nc6jx22fopky.dlg@40tude.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On 28 Oct 2004 21:18:50 -0700, Doug Anderson wrote: > > Vilma <V…@hotbox.ru> writes: > >> On 28 Oct 2004 08:03:07 -0700, Caren wrote: > >>> Is it immoral to bring a 3rd (or more) partner into the bedroom when > >>> both partners consent to it? Although it’s not cheating (in the > >>> literal sense of hiding something), is it still considered cheating? > >> If you have a belief in a christian based God then yes it is cheating. Even > >> if you believe personally that it is ok (and it doesn’t bother you or your > >> husband/wife) it is still cheating in the eyes of God. > > Can you explain why? Polygyny certainly coexisted with the early > > Christian church. > >> On a personal note I have been involved in such a relationship in the past > >> and did not find it was successful for all parties involved. Somebody > >> always seems to get left out or is jealous of another involved. I have > >> found it is the quickest way to end a relationship or put strain on it. > > Yes, this seems like the better question here. Not "is it moral," but > > "is it wise?" (And maybe "is it practical?") If this was one of my > > life goals, these are the points I’d be concerned about. > > (snip summary of experience) > > Doug > I guess you could argue this, but it’s a matter of interpretation, it says > that this sort of thing is forbidden in the bible. 10 commandments on > adultery and elsewhere. It doesn’t say "thou shalt not commit adultery > unless all parties concerned don’t mind". If you see it from God’s point of > view then he considers it adultery.
Are Mormons Christians?
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On 28 Oct 2004 21:18:50 -0700, Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovet…@yahoo.com> wrote: > Vilma <V…@hotbox.ru> writes: >> On 28 Oct 2004 08:03:07 -0700, Caren wrote: >> > Is it immoral to bring a 3rd (or more) partner into the bedroom when >> > both partners consent to it? Although it’s not cheating (in the >> > literal sense of hiding something), is it still considered cheating? >> If you have a belief in a christian based God then yes it is cheating. Even >> if you believe personally that it is ok (and it doesn’t bother you or your >> husband/wife) it is still cheating in the eyes of God. > Can you explain why? Polygyny certainly coexisted with the early > Christian church.
Where do you find this? (Cites, please). -Tony — "If the grass appears to be greener on the other side of the fence, it’s time to fertilize your lawn!" Want to jump start your marriage? Consider a Marriage Encounter weekend. Check out http://www.wwme.org for more information.
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On 28 Oct 2004 23:52:11 -0700, Doug Anderson wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Vilma <V…@hotbox.ru> writes: >> On 28 Oct 2004 21:18:50 -0700, Doug Anderson wrote: >>> Vilma <V…@hotbox.ru> writes: >>>> On 28 Oct 2004 08:03:07 -0700, Caren wrote: >>>>> Is it immoral to bring a 3rd (or more) partner into the bedroom when >>>>> both partners consent to it? Although it’s not cheating (in the >>>>> literal sense of hiding something), is it still considered cheating? >>>> If you have a belief in a christian based God then yes it is cheating. Even >>>> if you believe personally that it is ok (and it doesn’t bother you or your >>>> husband/wife) it is still cheating in the eyes of God. >>> Can you explain why? Polygyny certainly coexisted with the early >>> Christian church. >>>> On a personal note I have been involved in such a relationship in the past >>>> and did not find it was successful for all parties involved. Somebody >>>> always seems to get left out or is jealous of another involved. I have >>>> found it is the quickest way to end a relationship or put strain on it. >>> Yes, this seems like the better question here. Not "is it moral," but >>> "is it wise?" (And maybe "is it practical?") If this was one of my >>> life goals, these are the points I’d be concerned about. >>> (snip summary of experience) >> I guess you could argue this, but it’s a matter of interpretation, it says >> that this sort of thing is forbidden in the bible. 10 commandments on >> adultery and elsewhere. It doesn’t say "thou shalt not commit adultery >> unless all parties concerned don’t mind". > I think you have to ask what the bible meant by adultery. The 10 > commandments are Old Testament territory. And certainly the Old > Testament condoned polygamy. King David, for example. Furthermore, > you have stories like Abraham, Sarah, and Hagar. >> If you see it from God’s point of >> view then he considers it adultery. > Who is it who knows what god’s point of view is? > Doug
It also considers sex to be for procreation and not lust based reasons but in todays society the majority reason for sex is desire and fun and bonding. I think it is more New Testamnet where sex is considered ok between man and wife for reasons other than babies. I can’t quote passages but this is what I’ve been led to understand from previous reading.
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On 29 Oct 2004 09:37:23 -0700, Doug Anderson wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Tony Miller <t…@cigardiary.com> writes: >> On 28 Oct 2004 21:18:50 -0700, Doug Anderson >> <ethelthelogremovet…@yahoo.com> wrote: > (snip) >>> Can you explain why? Polygyny certainly coexisted with the early >>> Christian church. >> Where do you find this? (Cites, please). > My original question to Vilma was "on what basis does Christianity > consider having a third person in the marriage bed a sin?" (A question > for which I’m still hoping for an answer, presumably from the NT, > since I don’t think there is an answer for this from the OT.) > As far as my assertion that the early church tolerated polygamy, > Christianity is an interesting religion with an interesting history. > You should try reading up on it. > Paul forbade polygamy, but before that, not only was it tolerated, > but _priests_ could have more than one wife! (And they continued to do > so afterwards.) > I think it was Pelagius who decided that Church property could not be > inherited by the offspring of priests. > Marriage lists from 600 AD aren’t on the internet – so if you really > are interested in this, I suggest getting some books on history of the > early and medieval Christian church that deal with the changing sexual > practices of the Church. > If you want a secondary citation (rather than documentation of > multiply maried Christians), here is an article from the National > Catholic Reporter which mentions that "by the third century, > _Bishops_ were denied the right to a second marriage!" > http://www.natcath.org/NCR_Online/archives/041202/041202s.htm > And here is another from a Catholic source (explaning why the author > believes the NT prohibits polygamy) which refers to the fact that > polygamy continued to be practiced by priests up through the > middle ages. > http://catholic-legate.com/qa/polygamy.html > Now you may want to cavil that the second and third wives were > technically concubines (at least for priests) but I don’t find that a > particularly important distinction in this context. > Doug
or http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/4074.asp
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On 29 Oct 2004 09:37:23 -0700, Doug Anderson wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Tony Miller <t…@cigardiary.com> writes: >> On 28 Oct 2004 21:18:50 -0700, Doug Anderson >> <ethelthelogremovet…@yahoo.com> wrote: > (snip) >>> Can you explain why? Polygyny certainly coexisted with the early >>> Christian church. >> Where do you find this? (Cites, please). > My original question to Vilma was "on what basis does Christianity > consider having a third person in the marriage bed a sin?" (A question > for which I’m still hoping for an answer, presumably from the NT, > since I don’t think there is an answer for this from the OT.) > As far as my assertion that the early church tolerated polygamy, > Christianity is an interesting religion with an interesting history. > You should try reading up on it. > Paul forbade polygamy, but before that, not only was it tolerated, > but _priests_ could have more than one wife! (And they continued to do > so afterwards.) > I think it was Pelagius who decided that Church property could not be > inherited by the offspring of priests. > Marriage lists from 600 AD aren’t on the internet – so if you really > are interested in this, I suggest getting some books on history of the > early and medieval Christian church that deal with the changing sexual > practices of the Church. > If you want a secondary citation (rather than documentation of > multiply maried Christians), here is an article from the National > Catholic Reporter which mentions that "by the third century, > _Bishops_ were denied the right to a second marriage!" > http://www.natcath.org/NCR_Online/archives/041202/041202s.htm > And here is another from a Catholic source (explaning why the author > believes the NT prohibits polygamy) which refers to the fact that > polygamy continued to be practiced by priests up through the > middle ages. > http://catholic-legate.com/qa/polygamy.html > Now you may want to cavil that the second and third wives were > technically concubines (at least for priests) but I don’t find that a > particularly important distinction in this context. > Doug
This site touches on it http://www.scripturessay.com/q75.html
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Tony Miller <t…@cigardiary.com> writes: > On 29 Oct 2004 09:37:23 -0700, Doug Anderson > <ethelthelogremovet…@yahoo.com> wrote: > <Snip> > > If you want a secondary citation (rather than documentation of > > multiply maried Christians), here is an article from the National > > Catholic Reporter which mentions that "by the third century, > > _Bishops_ were denied the right to a second marriage!" > > http://www.natcath.org/NCR_Online/archives/041202/041202s.htm > If you make the assumption that it’s the "right to a second marriage" > and not just concubinage.
OK then. The early Christian church allowed concubines in addition to one wife. To me that isn’t distinct from polygamy in any important way. And as far as the original question went (Vilma’s claim that Christianity considers inviting extra people into the marital bed a sin) it is a completely irrelevant distinction. > > And here is another from a Catholic source (explaning why the author > > believes the NT prohibits polygamy) which refers to the fact that > > polygamy continued to be practiced by priests up through the > > middle ages. > > http://catholic-legate.com/qa/polygamy.html > > Now you may want to cavil that the second and third wives were > > technically concubines (at least for priests) but I don’t find that a > > particularly important distinction in this context. > If you read your own quote:
(snip quote) The quote is why is _shouldn’t_ be tolerated. The history is that it _was_ tolerated. > You will really have to do much better than this.
No, I won’t. > Polygamy is very strictly defined. If you’d like to amend your > statement, feel free.
So you _are_ caviling about whether having multiple concubines is polygamy? Alright, if you wish. Doug
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On 28 Oct 2004 08:03:07 -0700, Caren wrote: > Is it immoral to bring a 3rd (or more) partner into the bedroom when > both partners consent to it? Although it’s not cheating (in the > literal sense of hiding something), is it still considered cheating?
If you have a belief in a christian based God then yes it is cheating. Even if you believe personally that it is ok (and it doesn’t bother you or your husband/wife) it is still cheating in the eyes of God. On a personal note I have been involved in such a relationship in the past and did not find it was successful for all parties involved. Somebody always seems to get left out or is jealous of another involved. I have found it is the quickest way to end a relationship or put strain on it. I was involved with a soon to be wed couple and the female became extremely jealous of me and stated so and it caused untold damage to their relationship. I was too young/naive to realise the harm it was doing at the time but I’m older and wiser now. To be honest I only went along with it because she was my bestfriend and I did not want to say no because it might spoil our friendship. I found neither of them attractive (I gave it my all though) but had low self-esteem and was young and tractable. Looking back they had dropped a million hints and other inappropriate behaviour that someone less naive would have recognised right away but I was oblivious. I wouldn’t do that sort of relationshp again in a million years. You also have to consider the implications to your family.
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"Tony Miller" <t…@cigardiary.com> wrote in message
news:slrnco4ko3.uff.tony@home.cigardiary.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On 28 Oct 2004 21:18:50 -0700, Doug Anderson > <ethelthelogremovet…@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Vilma <V…@hotbox.ru> writes: >>> On 28 Oct 2004 08:03:07 -0700, Caren wrote: >>> > Is it immoral to bring a 3rd (or more) partner into the bedroom when >>> > both partners consent to it? Although it’s not cheating (in the >>> > literal sense of hiding something), is it still considered cheating? >>> If you have a belief in a christian based God then yes it is cheating. >>> Even >>> if you believe personally that it is ok (and it doesn’t bother you or >>> your >>> husband/wife) it is still cheating in the eyes of God. >> Can you explain why? Polygyny certainly coexisted with the early >> Christian church. > Where do you find this? (Cites, please). > -Tony
http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Polygamy — JWB
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Tony Miller <t…@cigardiary.com> writes: > On 28 Oct 2004 21:18:50 -0700, Doug Anderson > <ethelthelogremovet…@yahoo.com> wrote:
(snip) > > Can you explain why? Polygyny certainly coexisted with the early > > Christian church. > Where do you find this? (Cites, please).
My original question to Vilma was "on what basis does Christianity consider having a third person in the marriage bed a sin?" (A question for which I’m still hoping for an answer, presumably from the NT, since I don’t think there is an answer for this from the OT.) As far as my assertion that the early church tolerated polygamy, Christianity is an interesting religion with an interesting history. You should try reading up on it. Paul forbade polygamy, but before that, not only was it tolerated, but _priests_ could have more than one wife! (And they continued to do so afterwards.) I think it was Pelagius who decided that Church property could not be inherited by the offspring of priests. Marriage lists from 600 AD aren’t on the internet – so if you really are interested in this, I suggest getting some books on history of the early and medieval Christian church that deal with the changing sexual practices of the Church. If you want a secondary citation (rather than documentation of multiply maried Christians), here is an article from the National Catholic Reporter which mentions that "by the third century, _Bishops_ were denied the right to a second marriage!" http://www.natcath.org/NCR_Online/archives/041202/041202s.htm And here is another from a Catholic source (explaning why the author believes the NT prohibits polygamy) which refers to the fact that polygamy continued to be practiced by priests up through the middle ages. http://catholic-legate.com/qa/polygamy.html Now you may want to cavil that the second and third wives were technically concubines (at least for priests) but I don’t find that a particularly important distinction in this context. Doug
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Is it immoral to bring a 3rd (or more) partner into the bedroom when both partners consent to it? Although it’s not cheating (in the literal sense of hiding something), is it still considered cheating?
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in article 3754f0b3.0410280703.4847e…@posting.google.com, Caren at care…@msn.com wrote on 10/28/04 9:03 AM: > Is it immoral to bring a 3rd (or more) partner into the bedroom when > both partners consent to it? Although it’s not cheating (in the > literal sense of hiding something), is it still considered cheating?
I think you’ll need a ruling from The Bill on this. Maybe it would just rate a Scarlet A-.
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"Caren" <care…@msn.com> wrote in message
news:3754f0b3.0410280703.4847e62d@posting.google.com… > Is it immoral to bring a 3rd (or more) partner into the bedroom when > both partners consent to it? Although it’s not cheating (in the > literal sense of hiding something), is it still considered cheating?
To me, no. It is only cheating if your partner does not consent to it. In other words, "open marriages" are not "cheating".
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Michael <erosewa…@ziplip.com> writes: > in article 3754f0b3.0410280703.4847e…@posting.google.com, Caren at > care…@msn.com wrote on 10/28/04 9:03 AM: > > Is it immoral to bring a 3rd (or more) partner into the bedroom when > > both partners consent to it? Although it’s not cheating (in the > > literal sense of hiding something), is it still considered cheating? > I think you’ll need a ruling from The Bill on this. Maybe it would just rate > a Scarlet A-.
Very good! Caren: "Consent" is a funny word to me. It can carry a lot of different meanings like: "This is something my spouse really wants, and I’m not OK with it, but I’m willing to go along." Assuming consent means something more positive than that, I’d say no, it isn’t "cheating." But in my relationship the things that I care about most are honesty and emotional fidelity. So I wouldn’t consider something which didn’t violate those principles to be cheating. (Somehow in spite of this, my wife and my invitation to Marisa Tomei remains unacknowledged.) Doug
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JWB wrote in news:2ucm94F28lb4cU1@uni-berlin.de: > "Caren" <care…@msn.com> wrote in message > news:3754f0b3.0410280703.4847e62d@posting.google.com… >> Is it immoral to bring a 3rd (or more) partner into the bedroom when >> both partners consent to it? Although it’s not cheating (in the >> literal sense of hiding something), is it still considered cheating? > To me, no. It is only cheating if your partner does not consent to it. > In other words, "open marriages" are not "cheating".
I have already mentioned that if you’re in an open relationship, that I don’t consider it "cheating". Whether I find it moral or not, is another question. I wouldn’t expect to have other people’s morals imposed upon me, so I wouldn’t impose my views on others. That said *for me* it would be an immoral act. — Cal~ Change me to myself for email :-)
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"Caren" <care…@msn.com> wrote in message
news:3754f0b3.0410280703.4847e62d@posting.google.com… > Is it immoral to bring a 3rd (or more) partner into the bedroom when > both partners consent to it? Although it’s not cheating (in the > literal sense of hiding something), is it still considered cheating?
Sounds interesting, tell me more. Seriously, I am a moral relativist. I believe that all determinations of what is moral are dependent upon the circumstances. In your example it is definitely not cheating.
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"Caren" <care…@msn.com> wrote in message
news:3754f0b3.0410280703.4847e62d@posting.google.com… > Is it immoral to bring a 3rd (or more) partner into the bedroom when > both partners consent to it? Although it’s not cheating (in the > literal sense of hiding something), is it still considered cheating?
According to whom? Not according to my own personal set of morals. Hitting people is morally wrong, unless you have their consent (are into BSDM, e.g., or a boxer). I’m pretty sure it’d be biblical adultery, though. Morality and ethics is an interesting branch of philosophy, by the way. Something I’d like to do more reading on one of these days.
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On 28 Oct 2004 08:03:07 -0700, Caren <care…@msn.com> wrote: > Is it immoral to bring a 3rd (or more) partner into the bedroom when > both partners consent to it? Although it’s not cheating (in the > literal sense of hiding something), is it still considered cheating?
Planning something, Caren? 
-Tony — "If the grass appears to be greener on the other side of the fence, it’s time to fertilize your lawn!" Want to jump start your marriage? Consider a Marriage Encounter weekend. Check out http://www.wwme.org for more information.
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"Caren" <care…@msn.com> wrote in message
news:3754f0b3.0410280703.4847e62d@posting.google.com… > Is it immoral to bring a 3rd (or more) partner into the bedroom when > both partners consent to it? Although it’s not cheating (in the > literal sense of hiding something), is it still considered cheating?
No. So long as everyone involved is a consenting adult, whatever you want to do is fine. B
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>Is it immoral to bring a 3rd (or more) partner into the bedroom when >both partners consent to it? Although it’s not cheating (in the >literal sense of hiding something), is it still considered cheating?
No, I would not say that is cheating, assuming that both partners really want it (as opposed to one partner coercising the other, in which case I’d still say it isn’t cheating, but is wrong on a different level). Sheila
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -DrLith wrote: > "Caren" <care…@msn.com> wrote in message > news:3754f0b3.0410280703.4847e62d@posting.google.com… > > Is it immoral to bring a 3rd (or more) partner into the bedroom when > > both partners consent to it? Although it’s not cheating (in the > > literal sense of hiding something), is it still considered cheating? > According to whom? Not according to my own personal set of morals. Hitting > people is morally wrong, unless you have their consent (are into BSDM, e.g., > or a boxer). I’m pretty sure it’d be biblical adultery, though. Morality and > ethics is an interesting branch of philosophy, by the way. Something I’d > like to do more reading on one of these days.
Start with the book Origins of Virtue. jen
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