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And batty and illogical as ever…  Truly pitiful. Jeff

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –      "The following exchanges indicate that      Jewish political forces likely sponsored      the terrorist bombing of the Alfred P.      Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma      City on April 19, 1995"      The neo-Nazi’s are back !      The DataRat Data "RAT" is right. Here is the post that you clipped. –JM London Organization: Deja.com The following exchanges indicate that Jewish political forces likely sponsored the terrorist bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995. Equally troubling, NASA was apparently part of a massive cover-up to conceal scientific information indicating that multiple bombs were used to detonate the blast which took the lives of 167 U.S. citizens. In addition, Jewish political interests attempted, unsuccessfully, to link British historian David Irving to the bombing. It should be noted that Zionists have committed near identical acts of terrorism in the past. In 1946, Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel, in Jerusalem, killing 91 soldiers and civilians. Former Israeli prime minister  Menachem Begin was commander of the group responsible for that heinous act. The terrorist group responsible for the bombing of the King David Hotel was Irgun Zvai Leumi (Hebrew: National Military Organization). Joseph London Have you seen "Brood of Vipers: How Zionists Killed President Kennedy?" http://www.jfkmontreal.com Newsgroups: alt.true- crime,alt.thebird,alt.revisionism,alt.conspiracy.jfk <snip I followed those links on the OK bombing. What are your thoughts on who was behind it, and what the motive might be? Was this linked to Ruby Ridge and/or  Waco at all, in your opinion? Keep in mind, I am a Canadian, and don’t know very much about all these things. David Martin replied: Well look how it has been used.  April 19 has been completely stolen from right-thinking Americans outraged over Waco. A year of so after the OKC bombing I attended a special program held in a small room of the U.S. Capitol Building.  The occasion was the presentation of a check for a considerable sum of money to the Mayor of Oklahoma City to help the "healing process" or some such after the horrific bombing.  To the right as one entered the room was a table with lots of literature spread out on a table, literature that suggested that the bombing was a manifestation of "hate" and "intolerance" of the sort one sees among militia and anti-government types.  Hosting the ceremony and presenting the check from their fund-raising campaign was the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai Brith. Killing History The plutocracy that rules us Is afraid of the American past, Were we to reclaim our heritage Their dominion would not last. The spirit of independence, The belief in equality, The love of human freedom That resides in you and me, They’re all now nothing but obstacles Standing in their way, So we just hate the government Is what they like to say, And who’s to contradict them, How can we make folks hear, When they’ve grabbed all the megaphones And filled us all with fear, A fear of one another, Fear between white and black, A fear of strong convictions, Fear of a terrorist attack? Now that you know the purpose Of the game our rulers play, You can see clearly whose agents Are Nichols and Tim McVeigh.                             DC Dave And this is from the back of the dust jacket of "A Force Upon the Plain" by Kenneth S. Stern. At 9:02 A.M. on April 19, 1995, when many parents had just dropped their children at the second-floor day center of the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City, a truck bomb went off, shredding the front of the building, leaving behins bloody rubble and at least 167 dead. It was the worst terrorist attack and the most egregious mass murder in American history.  It was also a warning shot by those who would make civil war in America. Nine days before the blast I had issued a report entitled "Militias: A Growing Danger" that stated that this movement "is quickly spreading and has all the ingredients to lead to disaster….Some people connected with this movement advocate killing government officials.  They may attempt such an act." News reports since April 19th, 1995, have revealed that those accused of the bombing had connections to and share the ideology of the militia movement. Americans now are aware that there are people who call themselves "patriots" yet would commit terrorist acts.  But we still need to understand why, and what drew thousands of Americans to these private armies ready to make war with American government…  from A FORCE UPON THE PLAIN The truth is, the convicted bombers were never members of any militia and the government demonstrated no interest at all in finding out who else might have been involved in the bombing. The dust jacket goes on to tell us that Kenneth S. Stern is the American Jewish Commttee’s expert on hate and hate groups. Enough said.  This book is a wonderful example of propaganda overreach. Check out the readers’ comments on amazon.com. They’re not fooling many people. DC Dave Author of "America’s Dreyfus Affair, the Case of the Death of Vincent Foster" & "Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression" http://thebird.org/host/dcdave Have you seen http://www.fbicover-up.com ? Joseph London added: There are other reasons to suspect Zionist involvement in the terrorist bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995. Shortly after the bombing, there was controversy within the scientific community over two seismographs located near the bomb site that recorded two events, not just one. This prompted speculation that there was a "second bomb" in addition to convicted terrorist Timothy McVeigh’s so- called truck bomb. On October 8, 1996, a team of mostly–if not all–Jewish scientists concluded that the seismograms were "consistent with a single impulsive energy source." The scientists were: Thomas L. Holzer (team leader) Trond Ryberg Gary S. Fuis Thomas M. Brocher Christopher M. Dietel Joe B. Fletcher [NOTE: The conclusion of Thomas L. Holzer et al. was published in an article entitled, "Seismograms Offer Insight Into Oklahoma City Bombing," which appeared in EOS (Earth Observing System), Volume 77, Number 41, October 8, 1996. EOS is a scientific organization under NASA. The cited EOS journal is published by the American Geophysical Union.] Thomas L. Holzer et al. based their conclusion on seismic recordings of the demolition of the Murrah Building on May 23, 1995. The scientific issues are somewhat complex, but it appears that these scientists broke a golden rule of science: Never draw a scientific conclusion based on something that cannot be duplicated. The Murrah Building could only be destroyed one time, along with any evidence it may have contained. As we know, the bombing of the Murrah Building would not be the first time Israeli terrorists have blown up a building and killed scores of civilians. The following is Salvador Astucia’s description of the bombing of the King David Hotel in 1946: ". . . Menachem Begin, was the commander of another Zionist terrorist group, Irgun Zvai Leumi (Hebrew: National Military Organization), from 1943 to 1948. On July 22, 1946, the Irgun blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, killing 91 soldiers and civilians (British, Arab, and Jewish). On April 9, 1947, Irgun commandos assaulted the Arab village of Dayr Yasin, killing all 254 of its inhabitants." (Salvador Astucia, "Brood of Vipers: How Zionists Killed President Kennedy," http://www.jfkmontreal.com ) I wonder if Dr. Cyril Wecht can pull another "magic bullet theory" out of his hat regarding the Oklahoma City Bombing? Joseph London — Have you seen "Brood of Vipers: How Zionists Killed President Kennedy?" http://www.jfkmontreal.com

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     "The following exchanges indicate that      Jewish political forces likely sponsored      the terrorist bombing of the Alfred P.      Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma      City on April 19, 1995"      The neo-Nazi’s are back !      The DataRat

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     "The following exchanges indicate that      Jewish political forces likely sponsored      the terrorist bombing of the Alfred P.      Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma      City on April 19, 1995"      The neo-Nazi’s are back !      The DataRat

Data "RAT" is right. Here is the post that you clipped. –JM London Organization: Deja.com The following exchanges indicate that Jewish political forces likely sponsored the terrorist bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995. Equally troubling, NASA was apparently part of a massive cover-up to conceal scientific information indicating that multiple bombs were used to detonate the blast which took the lives of 167 U.S. citizens. In addition, Jewish political interests attempted, unsuccessfully, to link British historian David Irving to the bombing. It should be noted that Zionists have committed near identical acts of terrorism in the past. In 1946, Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel, in Jerusalem, killing 91 soldiers and civilians. Former Israeli prime minister  Menachem Begin was commander of the group responsible for that heinous act. The terrorist group responsible for the bombing of the King David Hotel was Irgun Zvai Leumi (Hebrew: National Military Organization). Joseph London Have you seen "Brood of Vipers: How Zionists Killed President Kennedy?" http://www.jfkmontreal.com Newsgroups: alt.true- crime,alt.thebird,alt.revisionism,alt.conspiracy.jfk <snip I followed those links on the OK bombing. What are your thoughts on who was behind it, and what the motive might be? Was this linked to Ruby Ridge and/or  Waco at all, in your opinion? Keep in mind, I am a Canadian, and don’t know very much about all these things.

David Martin replied: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well look how it has been used.  April 19 has been completely stolen from right-thinking Americans outraged over Waco. A year of so after the OKC bombing I attended a special program held in a small room of the U.S. Capitol Building.  The occasion was the presentation of a check for a considerable sum of money to the Mayor of Oklahoma City to help the "healing process" or some such after the horrific bombing.  To the right as one entered the room was a table with lots of literature spread out on a table, literature that suggested that the bombing was a manifestation of "hate" and "intolerance" of the sort one sees among militia and anti-government types.  Hosting the ceremony and presenting the check from their fund-raising campaign was the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai Brith. Killing History The plutocracy that rules us Is afraid of the American past, Were we to reclaim our heritage Their dominion would not last. The spirit of independence, The belief in equality, The love of human freedom That resides in you and me, They’re all now nothing but obstacles Standing in their way, So we just hate the government Is what they like to say, And who’s to contradict them, How can we make folks hear, When they’ve grabbed all the megaphones And filled us all with fear, A fear of one another, Fear between white and black, A fear of strong convictions, Fear of a terrorist attack? Now that you know the purpose Of the game our rulers play, You can see clearly whose agents Are Nichols and Tim McVeigh.                             DC Dave And this is from the back of the dust jacket of "A Force Upon the Plain" by Kenneth S. Stern. At 9:02 A.M. on April 19, 1995, when many parents had just dropped their children at the second-floor day center of the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City, a truck bomb went off, shredding the front of the building, leaving behins bloody rubble and at least 167 dead. It was the worst terrorist attack and the most egregious mass murder in American history.  It was also a warning shot by those who would make civil war in America. Nine days before the blast I had issued a report entitled "Militias: A Growing Danger" that stated that this movement "is quickly spreading and has all the ingredients to lead to disaster….Some people connected with this movement advocate killing government officials.  They may attempt such an act." News reports since April 19th, 1995, have revealed that those accused of the bombing had connections to and share the ideology of the militia movement. Americans now are aware that there are people who call themselves "patriots" yet would commit terrorist acts.  But we still need to understand why, and what drew thousands of Americans to these private armies ready to make war with American government…  from A FORCE UPON THE PLAIN The truth is, the convicted bombers were never members of any militia and the government demonstrated no interest at all in finding out who else might have been involved in the bombing. The dust jacket goes on to tell us that Kenneth S. Stern is the American Jewish Commttee’s expert on hate and hate groups. Enough said.  This book is a wonderful example of propaganda overreach. Check out the readers’ comments on amazon.com. They’re not fooling many people. DC Dave Author of "America’s Dreyfus Affair, the Case of the Death of Vincent Foster" & "Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression" http://thebird.org/host/dcdave Have you seen http://www.fbicover-up.com ?

Joseph London added: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There are other reasons to suspect Zionist involvement in the terrorist bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995. Shortly after the bombing, there was controversy within the scientific community over two seismographs located near the bomb site that recorded two events, not just one. This prompted speculation that there was a "second bomb" in addition to convicted terrorist Timothy McVeigh’s so- called truck bomb. On October 8, 1996, a team of mostly–if not all–Jewish scientists concluded that the seismograms were "consistent with a single impulsive energy source." The scientists were: Thomas L. Holzer (team leader) Trond Ryberg Gary S. Fuis Thomas M. Brocher Christopher M. Dietel Joe B. Fletcher [NOTE: The conclusion of Thomas L. Holzer et al. was published in an article entitled, "Seismograms Offer Insight Into Oklahoma City Bombing," which appeared in EOS (Earth Observing System), Volume 77, Number 41, October 8, 1996. EOS is a scientific organization under NASA. The cited EOS journal is published by the American Geophysical Union.] Thomas L. Holzer et al. based their conclusion on seismic recordings of the demolition of the Murrah Building on May 23, 1995. The scientific issues are somewhat complex, but it appears that these scientists broke a golden rule of science: Never draw a scientific conclusion based on something that cannot be duplicated. The Murrah Building could only be destroyed one time, along with any evidence it may have contained. As we know, the bombing of the Murrah Building would not be the first time Israeli terrorists have blown up a building and killed scores of civilians. The following is Salvador Astucia’s description of the bombing of the King David Hotel in 1946: ". . . Menachem Begin, was the commander of another Zionist terrorist group, Irgun Zvai Leumi (Hebrew: National Military Organization), from 1943 to 1948. On July 22, 1946, the Irgun blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, killing 91 soldiers and civilians (British, Arab, and Jewish). On April 9, 1947, Irgun commandos assaulted the Arab village of Dayr Yasin, killing all 254 of its inhabitants." (Salvador Astucia, "Brood of Vipers: How Zionists Killed President Kennedy," http://www.jfkmontreal.com ) I wonder if Dr. Cyril Wecht can pull another "magic bullet theory" out of his hat regarding the Oklahoma City Bombing? Joseph London — Have you seen "Brood of Vipers: How Zionists Killed President Kennedy?" http://www.jfkmontreal.com

David Martin responded: Now let me get this straight.  This EOS organization that published the "scientific" study concluding that there was only one explosion at the Murrah Building is a part of NASA?  So the feds, once again, have cleared the feds of any wrongdoing.  And why the unseemly haste to demolish the quite substantial and reparable remains of the building in the first place? Could there purpose have been to:

Joseph London replied: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You are absolutely correct. The feds cleared the feds of wrongdoing. The EOS is the "centerpiece of

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The following exchanges indicate that Jewish political forces likely sponsored the terrorist bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995. Equally troubling, NASA was apparently part of a massive cover-up to conceal scientific information indicating that multiple bombs were used to detonate the blast which took the lives of 167 U.S. citizens. In addition, Jewish political interests attempted, unsuccessfully, to link British historian David Irving to the bombing. It should be noted that Zionists have committed near identical acts of terrorism in the past. In 1946, Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel, in Jerusalem, killing 91 soldiers and civilians. Former Israeli prime minister  Menachem Begin was commander of the group responsible for that heinous act. The terrorist group responsible for the bombing of the King David Hotel was Irgun Zvai Leumi (Hebrew: National Military Organization). Joseph London Have you seen "Brood of Vipers: How Zionists Killed President Kennedy?" http://www.jfkmontreal.com Newsgroups: alt.true- crime,alt.thebird,alt.revisionism,alt.conspiracy.jfk <snip I followed those links on the OK bombing. What are your thoughts on who was behind it, and what the motive might be? Was this linked to Ruby Ridge and/or  Waco at all, in your opinion? Keep in mind, I am a Canadian, and don’t know very much about all these things.

David Martin replied: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well look how it has been used.  April 19 has been completely stolen from right-thinking Americans outraged over Waco. A year of so after the OKC bombing I attended a special program held in a small room of the U.S. Capitol Building.  The occasion was the presentation of a check for a considerable sum of money to the Mayor of Oklahoma City to help the "healing process" or some such after the horrific bombing.  To the right as one entered the room was a table with lots of literature spread out on a table, literature that suggested that the bombing was a manifestation of "hate" and "intolerance" of the sort one sees among militia and anti-government types.  Hosting the ceremony and presenting the check from their fund-raising campaign was the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai Brith. Killing History The plutocracy that rules us Is afraid of the American past, Were we to reclaim our heritage Their dominion would not last. The spirit of independence, The belief in equality, The love of human freedom That resides in you and me, They’re all now nothing but obstacles Standing in their way, So we just hate the government Is what they like to say, And who’s to contradict them, How can we make folks hear, When they’ve grabbed all the megaphones And filled us all with fear, A fear of one another, Fear between white and black, A fear of strong convictions, Fear of a terrorist attack? Now that you know the purpose Of the game our rulers play, You can see clearly whose agents Are Nichols and Tim McVeigh.                             DC Dave And this is from the back of the dust jacket of "A Force Upon the Plain" by Kenneth S. Stern. At 9:02 A.M. on April 19, 1995, when many parents had just dropped their children at the second-floor day center of the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City, a truck bomb went off, shredding the front of the building, leaving behins bloody rubble and at least 167 dead. It was the worst terrorist attack and the most egregious mass murder in American history.  It was also a warning shot by those who would make civil war in America. Nine days before the blast I had issued a report entitled "Militias: A Growing Danger" that stated that this movement "is quickly spreading and has all the ingredients to lead to disaster….Some people connected with this movement advocate killing government officials.  They may attempt such an act." News reports since April 19th, 1995, have revealed that those accused of the bombing had connections to and share the ideology of the militia movement. Americans now are aware that there are people who call themselves "patriots" yet would commit terrorist acts.  But we still need to understand why, and what drew thousands of Americans to these private armies ready to make war with American government…  from A FORCE UPON THE PLAIN The truth is, the convicted bombers were never members of any militia and the government demonstrated no interest at all in finding out who else might have been involved in the bombing. The dust jacket goes on to tell us that Kenneth S. Stern is the American Jewish Commttee’s expert on hate and hate groups. Enough said.  This book is a wonderful example of propaganda overreach. Check out the readers’ comments on amazon.com. They’re not fooling many people. DC Dave Author of "America’s Dreyfus Affair, the Case of the Death of Vincent Foster" & "Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression" http://thebird.org/host/dcdave Have you seen http://www.fbicover-up.com ?

Joseph London added: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There are other reasons to suspect Zionist involvement in the terrorist bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995. Shortly after the bombing, there was controversy within the scientific community over two seismographs located near the bomb site that recorded two events, not just one. This prompted speculation that there was a "second bomb" in addition to convicted terrorist Timothy McVeigh’s so- called truck bomb. On October 8, 1996, a team of mostly–if not all–Jewish scientists concluded that the seismograms were "consistent with a single impulsive energy source." The scientists were: Thomas L. Holzer (team leader) Trond Ryberg Gary S. Fuis Thomas M. Brocher Christopher M. Dietel Joe B. Fletcher [NOTE: The conclusion of Thomas L. Holzer et al. was published in an article entitled, "Seismograms Offer Insight Into Oklahoma City Bombing," which appeared in EOS (Earth Observing System), Volume 77, Number 41, October 8, 1996. EOS is a scientific organization under NASA. The cited EOS journal is published by the American Geophysical Union.] Thomas L. Holzer et al. based their conclusion on seismic recordings of the demolition of the Murrah Building on May 23, 1995. The scientific issues are somewhat complex, but it appears that these scientists broke a golden rule of science: Never draw a scientific conclusion based on something that cannot be duplicated. The Murrah Building could only be destroyed one time, along with any evidence it may have contained. As we know, the bombing of the Murrah Building would not be the first time Israeli terrorists have blown up a building and killed scores of civilians. The following is Salvador Astucia’s description of the bombing of the King David Hotel in 1946: ". . . Menachem Begin, was the commander of another Zionist terrorist group, Irgun Zvai Leumi (Hebrew: National Military Organization), from 1943 to 1948. On July 22, 1946, the Irgun blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, killing 91 soldiers and civilians (British, Arab, and Jewish). On April 9, 1947, Irgun commandos assaulted the Arab village of Dayr Yasin, killing all 254 of its inhabitants." (Salvador Astucia, "Brood of Vipers: How Zionists Killed President Kennedy," http://www.jfkmontreal.com ) I wonder if Dr. Cyril Wecht can pull another "magic bullet theory" out of his hat regarding the Oklahoma City Bombing? Joseph London — Have you seen "Brood of Vipers: How Zionists Killed President Kennedy?" http://www.jfkmontreal.com

David Martin responded: Now let me get this straight.  This EOS organization that published the "scientific" study concluding that there was only one explosion at the Murrah Building is a part of NASA?  So the feds, once again, have cleared the feds of any wrongdoing.  And why the unseemly haste to demolish the quite substantial and reparable remains of the building in the first place? Could there purpose have been to:

Joseph London replied: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You are absolutely correct. The feds cleared the feds of wrongdoing. The EOS is the "centerpiece of NASA

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