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That’s all. I will ‘get’ her tomorrow for the weekend, but she’s had performances on the nights I’m allowed to call her, so she hasn’t been there.  I was actually going to the performance last night but DH had to work late.  Last weekend was her New Orleans trip so I am eager to hear how it went. I did talk to her tonight for just a minute before she had to leave. She asked if it’s OK if she called me back later.  hee hee With hope and heart, Kathleen

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(((HUGS)))…I bet you can’t wait to see her this weekend Jennifer

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On Thu, 2 May 2002 17:13:58 -0500, "Kathleen" <blitz1…@msn.com> wrote: >That’s all.

{{{{Kathleen}}}} Kitten =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= You can always tell a Texan, but you can’t tell him much.  - Chris Wall =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Courage, Real courage, is no quick fix.  It doesn’t come in a bottle or a pill, It comes from discipline.  From taking everything life hands you and being your best either because of it or in spite of it. — Ty Murray =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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> >That’s all. > {{{{Kathleen}}}} > Kitten

Thanks Kitten.  She never called back…  I hate it when that happens! I skipped my Thursday night meeting because she said she would – but I know she’s busy, and since Dad and SM sit there and listen when I call, I figure they would throw a fit if she wanted to call and make her uncomfortable if she did. Does that sound like a vent?  How on earth are you supposed to forgive people like this for being such assholes? I’m reading this book called "The Bait of Satan" (Christian book of course) that is all about resentments and how we have to release the offender and *not* take offense even when it was intended.  Guess I better get back to reading.  ;-) With hope and hearat, Kathleen

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> (((HUGS)))…I bet you can’t wait to see her this weekend > Jennifer

I know!!  Tomorrow night is one of her last steel drum performances! They wouldn’t allow her to take 2 periods of band, and in order to be in steel drums you have to be in a regular band class too, so I am treating it like it’s the last one. Was that a vent too?  I keep thinking I’m getting so much better, more peaceful, and free about this stuff. Acceptance, surrender.  Acceptance, surrender.  Repeat as needed. With hope and heart, Kathleen

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On Thu, 2 May 2002 17:13:58 -0500, "Kathleen" <blitz1…@msn.com> wrote: > I did talk to her tonight for just a minute before she had to leave. > She asked if it’s OK if she called me back later.  hee hee

(((hugs))).  I know you’ll enjoy your time with her this weekend.  Sorry this is so hard.

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On Thu, 2 May 2002 21:21:58 -0500, "Kathleen" <blitz1…@msn.com> wrote: >> >That’s all. >> {{{{Kathleen}}}} >> Kitten >Thanks Kitten.  She never called back…  I hate it when that happens! >I skipped my Thursday night meeting because she said she would – but I >know she’s busy, and since Dad and SM sit there and listen when I >call, I figure they would throw a fit if she wanted to call and make >her uncomfortable if she did. >Does that sound like a vent?  How on earth are you supposed to forgive >people like this for being such assholes?

It’s hard, isn’t it. >I’m reading this book called "The Bait of Satan" (Christian book of >course) that is all about resentments and how we have to release the >offender and *not* take offense even when it was intended.  Guess I >better get back to reading.  ;-)

<shudder> I tend to have an aversion to books that try to blame things on Satan. They tend to minimize this thing called "Free Will." A book on letting go that I like is "The Wisdom of Letting Go: The Path of the Wounded Soul" by Father Leo Booth.  Fr. Leo is an Episcopalian (sp?)  minister (I think it’s Episcopalian – whatever it is in England). Thank you for posting abt the book you’re reading and reminding me abt Fr. Leo’s book.  OS has slid back into a very angry and agressive mode lately, although not nearly what he was like 6 months ago.  I think I’ll have him read Fr. Leo’s chapter on Violence.  It starts out as follows:  = = = <it>  How can I let go of these feelings of violence?  They are who I am.  </it> For some years I’ve been explaining how religious abuse tells you what you are not, and it is spirituality that tells you who you are! <it> We are not violent.  </it> We are, I believe, human beings made in the image of God, the God of Love.  Because I believe this, I also believe our essential nature is love.  = = = I think maybe this particular chapter will be helpful for OS. We have an extra copy of the book (around here, somewhere) if you’d like to borrow it. Kitten =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= You can always tell a Texan, but you can’t tell him much.  - Chris Wall =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Courage, Real courage, is no quick fix.  It doesn’t come in a bottle or a pill, It comes from discipline.  From taking everything life hands you and being your best either because of it or in spite of it. — Ty Murray =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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"Kathleen" <blitz1…@msn.com> wrote in message

news:aasdtr$df6i2$1@ID-108718.news.dfncis.de… > That’s all. > I will ‘get’ her tomorrow for the weekend, but she’s had performances > on the nights I’m allowed to call her, so she hasn’t been there.  I > was actually going to the performance last night but DH had to work > late.  Last weekend was her New Orleans trip so I am eager to hear how > it went. > I did talk to her tonight for just a minute before she had to leave. > She asked if it’s OK if she called me back later.  hee hee > With hope and heart, > Kathleen

(((Kathleen)))  I don’t know what else to do except hug you…hope it helped.. Barb — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 – Release Date: 4/19/2002

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> >I’m reading this book called "The Bait of Satan" (Christian book of > >course) that is all about resentments and how we have to release the > >offender and *not* take offense even when it was intended.  Guess I > >better get back to reading.  ;-) > <shudder> > I tend to have an aversion to books that try to blame things on Satan. > They tend to minimize this thing called "Free Will."

Yes, I know exactly what you mean.  I have gotten a lot out of this book though.  I am getting good at "Take what you can use and leave the rest" with these type of books, but so far this one hasn’t irked me in that way.  :-) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> A book on letting go that I like is "The Wisdom of Letting Go: The > Path of the Wounded Soul" by Father Leo Booth.  Fr. Leo is an > Episcopalian (sp?)  minister (I think it’s Episcopalian – whatever it > is in England). > Thank you for posting abt the book you’re reading and reminding me abt > Fr. Leo’s book.  OS has slid back into a very angry and agressive mode > lately, although not nearly what he was like 6 months ago.  I think > I’ll have him read Fr. Leo’s chapter on Violence.  It starts out as > follows: >  = = = > <it>  How can I let go of these feelings of violence?  They are who I > am.  </it> > For some years I’ve been explaining how religious abuse tells you what > you are not, and it is spirituality that tells you who you are! > <it> We are not violent.  </it> > We are, I believe, human beings made in the image of God, the God of > Love.  Because I believe this, I also believe our essential nature is > love. >  = = = > I think maybe this particular chapter will be helpful for OS. > We have an extra copy of the book (around here, somewhere) if you’d > like to borrow it. > Kitten

If you happen to come across it I would love to read it!  That is exactly what our sermon was on this morning – love.  It was titled "taming the tongue" but the bottom line was that if you are not behaving and speaking from love, then it is not God.  And also (because we just had a very high stress election day with half of our town wanting to abolish the 2yo city government) about how if we don’t love our neighbor, we aren’t obeying God’s 2nd most important rule. With hope and heart, Kathleen, who didn’t intend on getting off on a religious tangent

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