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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   Unfortunately, wiccans do worship Satan in a round about way..and they   don’t even realize it…there is NO goddess…NO mother earth…and their   beliefs are one of Satans deceptions and I bet he is laughing his ass   off….this is NOT an attack on wiccans, but the truth sometimes is   painful  Typical.  Just Typical of the "one true religion" crap that has bathed  this planet in blood since Abraham walked out of Ur.  If the man had stayed home more, this world might’v become a lot  friendlier place.  But here we are, back at the old excuse for the burning times:  Anyone  not just like me, anyone who doesn’t believe just like me, works for  SATAN.  oooooooh.  scary.  Not buying it.  No dice.  Non Serviam, kiddo.  I can’t tell you what path to walk, but I know that blind obedience to  the imams of one of the Abrahamic religions sure isn’t mine.  Not an attack…yeah right.   When do you bring out the matches?  Don

"It’s not YWH I hate, It’s his fan club"                 (don’t remember where I got this)         This is a stupid question, but why do so few here seem to be willing to dissolve the only true evil, intolerance?(I say dissolve because to fight is to foster intolerance)  I don’t care what you talk to for guidance, or what bloody rituals you profess, so long as you keep it to yourself.  Peace can only come through kindness.                                         My karma’s run over your dogma                                                 FEAR NO ART                                                         LIve, Love, and Laugh forever                                                 The Faery Dancer

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kaliyuga 49960721 AA1 ||Unfortunately, wiccans do worship Satan in a round about way..and they ||don’t even realize it…there is NO goddess…NO mother earth…and their ||beliefs are one of Satans deceptions and I bet he is laughing his ass ||off….this is NOT an attack on wiccans, but the truth sometimes is painful I think this person’s text is, if overblown, valuable to respond to in an open-minded manner.  remember, it is their language.  through entering into their post we encounter what *they* mean, not what you may infer.  I can do something similar in reflecting on my own term-set. Wiccans do serve Satan in a round-about way, through the promotion of items and processes which are oft-used for personal empowerment.  many Wiccans don’t understand Satanism well enough to realize this support.  there is as much truth to saying ‘there is no goddess’ as there is to saying ‘we don’t believe in your Jehovah/Satan/Blue-Meanie/whathaveyou’.  our ideas about ‘mother earth’ are doomed to incompleteness, since the planet, at base, is only ‘female’ by analogy.  fire/water sun/earth bathing. beliefs are always the deception of Satan (wild nature).  sucked into the abyss of fear at the unknown, we lock onto certainty in an attempt to wish away the dark death which awaits us. |Everytime somebody says something stupid like this, you demonstrate your pain, Wiccan. |use my tactic : |Scare them. Feed their fears. Works everytime. what if we are not afraid of your ‘PK’? what if we won’t be intimidated by your attempts to persuade through force and fear?? |I’ve finally got PK to work, and I’m working towards my goal of |"spontaneous lightbulb explosion." Next time somebody calls me |the Antichrist, I’ll just agree with him, and turn out the lights |Hehehe. Never fails. you are the Antichrist.  please agree with me and turn out the lights. |Objects falling off shelves never fail to worry people you are the Antichrist.  please cause things to fall off my shelves. |Either that or ignore them. Sometimes it can be difficult. when you can’t demonstrate your power, turn away in fear. |"Who’s afraid of a big black sword…" good question. |I go to school with enough Xtians, to have learnt how to avoid them. perhaps if you weren’t so ready to label people (Xtians, whatever), then you’d have less problems. |An’ it harm none, do as ye will hehehe, yeah, right. |"Absence of proof is not proof of absence" true, but claims like yours disrupt the flow of real information. blessed beast.  might does not make right, boyo. lorax of the evul wikkhunz

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Thats right quasi, the wiccans are a bunch of Xian in drag losers.  Bash Bash Bash some more.  You’ve converted me man.  Your logic, and oratory, Mask and Hecate would laugh at quasi if they could be bothered to waste their time with him.  Instead the Gods’ representative on Earth will laugh for them. Quasi-  I don’t begrudge you your bastard carpenter, but really have you actually read your own bible, I mean really read it? Blessed be…. Unfortunately, wiccans do worship Satan in a round about way..and they don’t even realize it…there is NO goddess…NO mother earth…and their beliefs are one of Satans deceptions and I bet he is laughing his ass off….this is NOT an attack on wiccans, but the truth sometimes is painful

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Hesterly) writes: If there is *_NO_* mother earth, then where do you live?  What do you eat?  How do you exist?  I’d really like to know, because MOTHER EARTH provides the materials necessary to live.  The materials used to make your home were provided by her, the food you eat was provided by her, all the materials you use in your every day existance were provided by her, and it is people like you who are killing her with your polution, ignorance, and inability to adapt to the new needs of her existance.  SAVE SOMETHING for your children PLEASE!!!! Ruth

Ruth, for the most part, Christians do not consider the Earth as being anything sacred.  They tout how Greenpeace is the demise of Christianity because they support Pagan Ways. They do not take care of our Planet, as I can see, by the way they doze the land to put up these elaborate UGLY buildings they call churches, not to mention the mess it makes all over the road.  I had to call the Mayor of my city to find out when the new baptist church was going to clean up the road of all the debris they are making.  Not to  mention all the traffic it will now create on this otherwise untraveled road. What Christians do not realize is, THEY are the secular folks on the planet.  As a Pagan, I celebrate the Earth and her beauty and the God and Goddess in their prospective aspects as they are. Christianity is simply a form of governing the people and collecting A LOT of money to build these monstrocitiy buildings, and house the pastors in lavish style.  Christianity, whether they like it or not, is a business.  A BIG BUSINESS, especially here in Dallas, where Baptists will shoot you on sight, but protest at the abortion clinics to SAVE the lives of babies, who they will never adopt. Very strange bunch, who know nothing of Paganism, else they would see they are born of Paganism, and they are the ones who bastardized the Old Ways…Christians did this, Christ did not.   RainOne

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No Mother Earth?  So does this mean you believe in ‘mankind’s god given dominion over the earth and its creatures?" Victorian modes of thought are still prevailing.  Unlike the Millenialists we believe that we have a responsibility not to basically (excuse me please) "shit where we eat".      Hail Satan to that one.  That alone makes Wiccans 10 times better than Christians no matter what else I dislike about them.  There’s an earth that’s green – but we’re going to have to make a lot of red before we get it.

If you mean the red of blood or the red of fire, then I think almost all Wiccans would agree the only place blood should flow is in our veins and the only places fire should burn is in the cosmic wombs of the stars, the warmth of the hearth, the forests ONLY when it is natural and contributes to ongoing life and the passion of our hearts. Suggesting that killing and maiming will solve the planet’s problems is a fallacy in that killing and maiming are pretty much what got us where we are now. Hail Satan?  Why should I hail something that was invented primarily to explain away all the misery caused by hierarchical society and blame it on people someone just doesn’t happen to like?  Try Hail Santa, the image of love (sort of conditional on being good but I suspect that was imposed more by the Church than it is inherent to the Santa image, though I could be wrong) and generosity.  Now I’m not an Angels and Light kind of guy (though I like the "Angels and Light" folks FAR better than the "Hatred and Evil" people) but I think the image of Santa and what it evokes/invokes in us is far closer to what we need to find our way out of the "wasteland of hierarchy" than the spirit of "maim and kill" everyone who gets in your way.  Just because something is human nature doesn’t mean that we have to SUCCUM (sp?) to it.  There’s a difference mind you between repressing a desire and understanding it well enough that you can channel it into something more positive. Oh, I suppose I’ll get the usual "live in reality" and "the world doesn’t work that way just accept things as they are" to which I respond, "We don’t live in reality.  We live in a hallucination synthesized through a combination of Corporate State and Societal Hate.  Reality is that the World (all of it, including the vastness of space) is creative and nurturing (IE we’re made of materials wrought in the furnaces of the stars) and the aberrant nature of the alledged ‘REAL WORLD’ is revealed by how virtually every work of hierarchy-bound humankind is in some way opposed,   either openly or covertly, to this principle." That’s my two copper-nickle-whatever-allow disks worth. SilverCat See the High Plains Pagan and Magick Pages at http://www.raccoon.com/~aiko

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Unfortunately, wiccans do worship Satan in a round about way..and they don’t even realize it…there is NO goddess…NO mother earth…and their beliefs are one of Satans deceptions and I bet he is laughing his ass off….this is NOT an attack on wiccans, but the truth sometimes is painful

Everytime somebody says something stupid like this, use my tactic : Scare them. Feed their fears. Works everytime. I’ve finally got PK to work, and I’m working towards my goal of "spontaneous lightbulb explosion." Next time somebody calls me the Antichrist, I’ll just agree with him, and turn out the lights Hehehe. Never fails. Objects falling off shelves never fail to worry people Either that or ignore them. Sometimes it can be difficult. "Who’s afraid of a big black sword…" I go to school with enough Xtians, to have learnt how to avoid them. Good luck, and Blessed be. MTFBWYA. — Michael.S.E.Richards Age    : 16 Origin : Nr. Wimborne, Dorset, England WWW    : http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/2280/ An’ it harm none, do as ye will "Absence of proof is not proof of absence"

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Chapter X THE MUMMY IN AMENTA We now approach a phase of the general theme, the correction of popular misconception about which will be attended with the most momentous consequences for the whole of world religion. Only one or two other items of our revision of current belief will prove to be of more sensational interest. The matter that promises so largely is the Egyptian mummy and the practice of mummification. When the true signification of this marvelous custom of a sage race begins to dawn in clear light, it will assuredly seem as if modern appreciation of a great deposit of ancient knowledge could hardly have suffered so utter a rout, so total a wreckage. General opinion, expressed and shared by the most learned of the Egyptologists, holds that the Egyptians mummified their dead for the reason that, believing in reincarnation or forms of transmigration, they desired the physical body to be preserved intact for the reoccupancy of the Ego or soul upon its return to earth. Common belief asserts that they hoped by this provision to make reincarnation easier for the returning soul, inasmuch as he would find his former body ready for him, and would not have to build a new one or enter the body of some animal. The quantity of "explanation" of this sort that one reads in the works of reputed scholars is indeed enough to drive any astute reasoner ad nauseam. Nothing betrays the shallow insufficiency of our knowledge so flagrantly as does this matter. It would seem as if it should be unnecessary to issue a denial of the correctness of the popular theories just indicated. The truth of the matter should be evident to anyone who can frame a syllogism. One fact alone should have been sufficient to forestall the arrant blunder in misconceiving the mummification motive. An act performed for the alleged purpose of preservation began with a gross mutilation! The viscera, the whole of the organs of the chest and abdominal cavity 176 were first removed, and the entrails placed in the Canopic jars at the four corners of the coffin. One does not mutilate that which one wishes to preserve. If this be not conclusive, let us add that at times both the head and the feet were cut off! Could the returning soul profitably use this old shriveled, leathery and mutilated shell as its next living tenement? Our idea has been a tacit insult to Egyptian intelligence. Surely we might have credited them from the start with being no such fools. Because we believed, under the lashing of medieval theologians, that Christ rose in his flesh and that we should do likewise at the last trump, we assumed that the Egyptians indulged their credulity in the same weird fashion. We are yet as children essaying to frame an explanation of the most profoundly symbolic act of the most illumined race of history. It is the declaration drawn from our studies and supported by the evidence to be submitted, that the practice of embalmment was nothing more than a mighty rite of symbolism! One immediate item of confirmation is the fact that it was performed for only a relatively few of Egypt’s deceased, notably kings and functionaries. It was costly, required a hundred days, and so was indulged in only in the case of those who could afford such an elaborate funeral ritual. If the motive for mummification had been one arising out of universal philosophy or accepted religious theory, it would have been practiced generally, with rich and poor alike. Not all Catholic Christians can afford elaborate masses. No enlightened nation would countenance for centuries a practice based on a theory which made the difference in worldly wealth critical for the whole future destiny of the great mass of its inhabitants. If the hope of future evolutionary welfare depended on this performance with the cadaver, then Egypt was guilty of a felonious neglect of her general population in favor of her overlords. And we know that early nations were, as we like to say, superstitious in the extreme about the punctilious observance of funeral rites. Virgil tells of the dread of the heroes of having their dead bodies lie unburied on the sand (inhumatus arena). Egypt could not have given the benefit of a vital ceremony to only a limited class. The effort is here made for the first time in our day to set forth the inner spiritual significance of this great rite. Our development of the obsolete meaning of "death" in primal theology has led us right up 177 to the threshold of the denouement. One further step will take us into the heart of the age-old mystery. In the esoteric doctrine which regarded the present life as death, and the living body as the soul’s tomb, we have the necessary background for adequate elucidation of the matter. The body was mummified to serve as a powerful moving symbol of the death of the soul in matter, and the various features of the meaning of this mundane life! Nothing more. But this far transcended in graphic impressiveness and cathartic virtue any theoretic dramatization of the philosophy of life made by any people since the days of Egypt’s glory. The mummy was designed to point the whole moral of human life in a form of overwhelming psychological power. To a deeply philosophical people the lifeless body became at once the most impressive symbol of the entire import of life itself. The preserved corpse became the mute but grandiloquent reminder of life and death, mortality and immortality, in one mighty emblem. The custom was an attempt to utilize the cadaver as the central object in a ritual designed to incorporate the essential features of their entire philosophy of life. The import of a ceremony based on the ostensible preservation of a thing which obviously could not be preserved for living purposes, was the enforcement upon all minds of the truth that the mortal part of man could be immortalized! Concomitant with this, the ritual bore the message that the divine part of man, the immortal soul, though in this body it has gone to its "death," is immortal still. It will defy death and corruption, as will the mummy. The mummy was the cardinal object in a grandiose ritual precisely because it was a dead thing! It prefigured the nature of this life, which was, philosophically, death. The dead thing thus became the emblem of immortal life itself. The "dead" shall live forever. The mummy symboled life as death, and death as the gate to immortal life. And the preservation or immortalizing of the dead mortal by the infusion of spiritous oils, balsams, ichors, was to emblem the raising of this mortal to immortality through the adoption by the lower man of the spirit of eternal life from the injected Christ nature. By the infusion of the mind of Christ into the dead Adamic nature, born to sin, it could be raised to eternal life out of the realm of decay. To associate ritualistically the idea of undying existence with the defunct relic was to impress the lesson of the burial in matter of that divine fragment whose 178 attribute is "life and everlastingness." Under the garb and swathings of death, its mission was to bring life and immortality to light. The embalming was not the enactment of a vague spiritual ideal. Every detail of the process, as Budge testified, was a typical performance with specific relevance. The injection of preservatives was designed to do for the corpse symbolically what the putting on of the Christ spirit would do for "the body of this death." An elaborate ritual was built up about the mummy. There were the mutilations and exsections, symbolizing the dismemberment or fragmentation of the divine intellect when cast into the distracting turmoil of sense life. The facial mask carried the implication of the "false" nature of the physical man, the personality, which was the mask (Latin: persona, a mask) the soul donned over its true self. The bound legs and arms symboled the limitation and motionlessness which matter ever imposes upon active spirit. The four Canopic jars at the corners of the coffin stood for the physical world, which is ever four-square as the base that upholds all higher life. The mummy case itself signified the body or earth, the physical house and habitat of the soul. The coffin lid served as the table for the mortuary meal, or the partaking of the "bread of Seb" or food of earth. The bandages were emblematic of the material vestures or bodies which enwrapped the soul, for one coming to earth it was "all meanly wrapped in swaddling clothes," the "coats of skin" that God gave to Adam and Eve in Genesis. Then there was the light, signifying of course the presence of the glowing power of deity within the fleshly house. When darkness was over the land of Egypt, "the Israelites had light in their dwellings." More meaningful still was the image of the hawk, or the hawk-headed Horus, which hovered over the mummy; for this was the figure of the resurrection, the soul as a bird leaving the body to return to the upper air of heaven. The ankh-cross, symbol of life when spirit and matter are tied together, the ankham-flower of immortality, the Tat cross, symbol of eternal stability, the level of Amentu, symbol of the balance of nature’s forces, the scarab, symbol of the resurrection, the vulture, the greenstone tablet of resin, all shadowed in one way or another the immortality of the spiritual principle lodged within the mortal vehicle. The spices and balsams were preservatives, sweet of savor. And the fluids that did so marvelously work their miracle of preservation upon the substance of decay, were as "the Amrit juice of immortality." In 179 many countries a liquor called Soma (the Greek word, incidentally, for the "spiritual" body) was considered to bestow immortality. A tribal chant runs, in one verse:         "We’ve quaffed the soma bright          And are immortal grown          We’ve entered into light          And all the gods have known." The lower man’s immediate relation to his soul permits him to drink of that immortalizing nectar, and as it … read more »

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Unfortunately, wiccans do worship Satan in a round about way..and they don’t even realize it…there is NO goddess…NO mother earth…and their beliefs are one of Satans deceptions and I bet he is laughing his ass off….this is NOT an attack on wiccans, but the truth sometimes is painful

It might have been nice if you had any clue as to what you were talking about, as it is, you have made a statement of opinion without having any confirming data.  I can just as easily say that Your Version of Jesus the Christ (not Yeshua ben Mirriam) is a Deception of Satan, and given the History of the Christian Church, and ITs Killing any one who Disagreed, have far more validity than your statment.  Take Care Friend, there are a number of us who can take your argument and break it into little Biggoted and Hateful Pieces for all to see…. AND, no matter that you say it is not an attack, it clearly is…. –Uncle Wolf

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No Mother Earth?  So does this mean you believe in ‘mankind’s god given dominion over the earth and its creatures?" Victorian modes of thought are still prevailing.  Unlike the Millenialists we believe that we have a responsibility not to basically (excuse me please) "shit where we eat".  

        Hail Satan to that one.  That alone makes Wiccans 10 times better than Christians no matter what else I dislike about them.  There’s an earth that’s green – but we’re going to have to make a lot of red before we get it.

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What quasi doesn’t know is that that trickster god Yaweh (formerly known as Sin, who lived on Mount Sinai in the Wilderness of Sin), is a srubby, vain little demigog who’s clock is winding down.  For the wages of Sin is death. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Unfortunately, wiccans do worship Satan in a round about way..and they don’t even realize it…there is NO goddess…NO mother earth…and their beliefs are one of Satans deceptions and I bet he is laughing his ass off….this is NOT an attack on wiccans, but the truth sometimes is painful Excuse me?  Would you please explain how this is not an attack? This sounds like the usual unpleasant, intolerant, hateful propaganda from a so-called Christian.  (REAL Christians don’t attack the beliefs of others.  I’ve never met a REAL Christian, who really honored Jesus and followed His teachings, who didn’t understand the value of tolerance and the validity of all paths to the Divine.)

– http://www.io.com/~crisww/   _`<_   approaching which unnerves me and                    …….  (_)/(_)  causes me to tremble for the safety                                      of my country. Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money-power of the country will endeavour to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed.  – Abraham Lincoln

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Unfortunately, wiccans do worship Satan in a round about way..and they don’t even realize it…there is NO goddess…NO mother earth…and their beliefs are one of Satans deceptions and I bet he is laughing his ass off….this is NOT an attack on wiccans, but the truth sometimes is painful Excuse me?  Would you please explain how this is not an attack? This sounds like the usual unpleasant, intolerant, hateful propaganda from a so-called Christian.  (REAL Christians don’t attack the beliefs of others.  I’ve never met a REAL Christian, who really honored Jesus and followed His teachings, who didn’t understand the value of tolerance and the validity of all paths to the Divine.)

    I guess I’m delurked, aren’t I???     I’m no Wiccan, but if I were I would be highly offended.     This is just another example of Christain stupidity…     And none of you Christains better say a thing about my comments. I used to be one of you untill I saw the light!!! I was Russain Orthodox!!!     Little do Christains know that every warrior who has fought in the name of their god had fallen to one who follows a neutral path…Or to one of my kind. (Same thing) ~~~The Dark Knight

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Unfortunately, wiccans do worship Satan in a round about way..and they don’t even realize it…there is NO goddess…NO mother earth…and their beliefs are one of Satans deceptions and I bet he is laughing his ass off….this is NOT an attack on wiccans, but the truth sometimes is painful

You’re wrong, Wiccan belief is not one of Satan’s deceptions. Much of Wiccan belief is actually true. The Christian God, on the other hand, inasmuch as ‘he’ is not part of the world, is a complete fiction. I’m guessing you’re under the illusion that the Christian bible holds perfect religious authority. It does not: it’s full of all kinds of rubbish, and it’s not a good path to finding true Divinity (which is entirely a property of the universe). — Ashley Branchfeather

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Unfortunately, wiccans do worship Satan in a round about way..and they don’t even realize it…there is NO goddess…NO mother earth…and their beliefs are one of Satans deceptions and I bet he is laughing his ass off….this is NOT an attack on wiccans, but the truth sometimes is painful

 Unfortunately, Christians do worship Satan in a round about way..and they don’t even realize it…there is NO god…NO holy Spirit…and their beliefs are one of Satans deceptions and I bet he is laughing his ass off….this is NOT an attack on Christians, but the truth sometimes is painful.

As is your half baked logic. You are a purple spotted pot bellied pig that types with his tail and eats twinkies for dinner every night while listening to accordien music on a raft on the Orinocco. You may not realize this, but that is simply because you are delusional. I, a person who has never meet you, am able to tell you everything about yourself, in direct contridiction to what you know to be true.

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Unfortunately, wiccans do worship Satan in a round about way..and they don’t even realize it…there is NO goddess…NO mother earth…and their beliefs are one of Satans deceptions and I bet he is laughing his ass off….this is NOT an attack on wiccans, but the truth sometimes is painful Excuse me?  Would you please explain how this is not an attack? This sounds like the usual unpleasant, intolerant, hateful propaganda from a so-called Christian.  (REAL Christians don’t attack the beliefs of others.  I’ve never met a REAL Christian, who really honored Jesus and followed His teachings, who didn’t understand the value of tolerance and the validity of all paths to the Divine.)

…..and… remember (all those who cross post to our little corner of insanity)….."bumper stickers are for those who already believe". Seeing the xian’s try to convert a Witch is like trying to get a pony to not eat hay… Save your energy for yourselves….You the ones going to your own hell. Gald I don’t believe in it….I’ll be a Witch till I’m reborn again, and again, and again……(you get the picture)

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Unfortunately, wiccans do worship Satan in a round about way..and they don’t even realize it…there is NO goddess…NO mother earth…and their beliefs are one of Satans deceptions and I bet he is laughing his ass off….this is NOT an attack on wiccans, but the truth sometimes is painful

Unfortunately, you are the pain in my ass. Please burn in your own fabricated hell. Don’t flame Wicca. We don’t have the time for you. http://www.iac.net/~ren/magifaq.html

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Unfortunately, wiccans do worship Satan in a round about way..and they don’t even realize it…there is NO goddess…NO mother earth…and their beliefs are one of Satans deceptions and I bet he is laughing his ass off….this is NOT an attack on wiccans, but the truth sometimes is painful

Now there is a fine example of xian charity and fair mindedness… Sorry dearie, but your condescension is showing. This is the kind of attitude that repels me from ‘organized religion’. Why is it necessary for you to denigrate my beliefs and turn around and say your’s are inherently better than mine? I’m sorry, but that WAS an attack on wiccans, or at least our beliefs. If I said that the Bible were nothing but a simple collection of historical homilies and allegorical teachings… Well, I am sure I would get flamed so badly that my server would choke on the E-mail. But then, who said life is fair… And your version of the truth is not painful, except when I cannot stop laughing at a poster’s unmitigated gall! — WOMBAT! ** Visit the Stellar Operations Command Homepage *** "Ooooo! I’ve got** *    http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/4162   <*   to Potty!!!"   * **Find out more about Interactive Fiction Writing***    -Wakko Warner**

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No Mother Earth?  So does this mean you believe in ‘mankind’s god given dominion over the earth and its creatures?" Victorian modes of thought are still prevailing.  Unlike the Millenialists we believe that we have a responsibility not to basically (excuse me please) "shit where we eat".

This doctrine of "Manifest Destiny" is still around, but not a doctrine subscribed by all Christians. I believe that we Wiccans are guilty for trashing Earth and ourselves, (same thing) too. At least we are consciously aware of it. We are working on Hydrogen Fuel to remedy that! Bless’t be you, Xina. http://www.iac.net/~ren/magifaq.html

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Unfortunately, wiccans do worship Satan in a round about way..and they don’t even realize it…there is NO goddess…NO mother earth…and their beliefs are one of Satans deceptions and I bet he is laughing his ass off….this is NOT an attack on wiccans, but the truth sometimes is painful

Typical.  Just Typical of the "one true religion" crap that has bathed this planet in blood since Abraham walked out of Ur. If the man had stayed home more, this world might’v become a lot friendlier place. But here we are, back at the old excuse for the burning times:  Anyone not just like me, anyone who doesn’t believe just like me, works for SATAN.  oooooooh.  scary. Not buying it.  No dice.  Non Serviam, kiddo. I can’t tell you what path to walk, but I know that blind obedience to the imams of one of the Abrahamic religions sure isn’t mine. Not an attack…yeah right.   When do you bring out the matches? Don

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    Unfortunately, wiccans do worship Satan in a round about way..and they   don’t even realize it…there is NO goddess…NO mother earth…and their   beliefs are one of Satans deceptions and I bet he is laughing his ass   off….this is NOT an attack on wiccans, but the truth sometimes is   painful If there is *_NO_* mother earth, then where do you live?  What do you eat?  How do you exist?  I’d really like to know, because MOTHER EARTH provides the materials necessary to live.  The materials used to make your home were provided by her, the food you eat was provided by her, all the materials you use in your every day existance were provided by her, and it is people like you who are killing her with your polution, ignorance, and inability to adapt to the new needs of her existance.  SAVE SOMETHING for your children PLEASE!!!! Ruth … If I could write great taglines, I wouldn’t steal YOURS! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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Unfortunately, wiccans do worship Satan in a round about way..and they don’t even realize it…there is NO goddess…NO mother earth…and their beliefs are one of Satans deceptions and I bet he is laughing his ass off….this is NOT an attack on wiccans, but the truth sometimes is painful

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Unfortunately, wiccans do worship Satan in a round about way..and they don’t even realize it…there is NO goddess…NO mother earth

Then I’ll ask you to leave Her immediately. …and their beliefs are one of Satans deceptions and I bet he is laughing his ass off….

This is that which is suitable for fertilizing lawns. this is NOT an attack on wiccans,

No, actually, it’s an attack on the Earth religions in general. but the truth sometimes is painful

We’ve heard it before, and it’s as pathetic and evil-spirited as ever.

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Unfortunately, wiccans do worship Satan in a round about way..and they don’t even realize it…there is NO goddess…NO mother earth…and their beliefs are one of Satans deceptions and I bet he is laughing his ass off….this is NOT an attack on wiccans, but the truth sometimes is painful

Well, from the tone of this post I can say we are dealing with a fundie.  That’s nice.  (pats the sheep on the head) No Mother Earth?  So does this mean you believe in ‘mankind’s god given dominion over the earth and its creatures?" Victorian modes of thought are still prevailing.  Unlike the Millenialists we believe that we have a responsibility not to basically (excuse me please) "shit where we eat".   Pagans/Wiccans/NeoPagans/Native Americans etc.  do not have the Magick Parachute to bail out after messing up the earth so badly.  Its interesting how of course Xians will beleive in the glorious gift of the earth etc etc and then go about exploiting and trashing it and say "its really OK, Jesus is coming back and we dont need to be responsible!" As for "Satan’s little deceptions", I would personally rather go to the end of the age with my eyes opened than as a blinded sheep with no thoughts of my own"  He may laugh his arse off, Quasi, but I believe the joke is inevetibly on you. <g Xina

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Unfortunately, wiccans do worship Satan in a round about way..and they don’t even realize it…there is NO goddess…NO mother earth…and their beliefs are one of Satans deceptions and I bet he is laughing his ass off….this is NOT an attack on wiccans, but the truth sometimes is painful

Excuse me?  Would you please explain how this is not an attack? This sounds like the usual unpleasant, intolerant, hateful propaganda from a so-called Christian.  (REAL Christians don’t attack the beliefs of others.  I’ve never met a REAL Christian, who really honored Jesus and followed His teachings, who didn’t understand the value of tolerance and the validity of all paths to the Divine.)

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