Christianity QA » Christian Bible » Jesus Christ Is NOT UNIQUE
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THE DIVINE MASTERS Most Christians would agree, and correctly so, that Jesus Christ was a Divine Master, and a projection of God into the physical world, God Incarnate.
Please, please , please, just once, ONE TIME, would one of you god guys offer some evidence for your assertions? Pick a god, any god, I don’t care, but just give me something more than your confidence that what you say is absolutely true. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. But there are some very important related facts that Christians are COMPLETELY IGNORANT of, as are followers of most other world religions.
Including Eck. You sound like a total asshole. That’s always a good technique for gaining new converts. I’m going to snip the rest of your particular lunacy. And by the way, you sound no different than the christians who post in here. *snip*
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On 16 Nov 2004, dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted: THE DIVINE MASTERS Most Christians would agree, and correctly so, that Jesus Christ was a Divine Master, and a projection of God into the physical world, God Incarnate. But there are some very important related facts that Christians are COMPLETELY IGNORANT of, as are followers of most other world religions. First, Jesus Christ was NOT unique
Yup. Google up Horus of Egypt, Dionysus, Krishna, Zoroaster, and any of the other Pagan god-men. Most Christians won’t go there. Too scary. — Vic Sagerquist aa#2011 Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – THE DIVINE MASTERS Robert E. McElwaine Eckankar Initiate http://members.aol.com/rem547 PLUS http://members.aol.com/rem460 Preserve BOTH on CD-R and PRINT-OUTS P.S.: PASS IT ON ! "EVERYTHING you know is WRONG." "The Truth IS stranger than fiction." "The Truth is ALWAYS the FIRST CASUALTY OF WAR." "OFFICIAL LIES are ALWAYS the BIGGEST LIES OF ALL." "The more things change, the more they STAY THE SAME."
Super! Sounds like a cult to me. I think though that it would be cheaper to get a few books from the mind and spirit section. You don’t seem to realise that Jesus died and rose from the dead which makes any other "divine" masters redundant. This was a one time show, and the Holy Spirit gives guidance today, as appropriate. I’m almost 40 and have only had one dream of a past life, several of the future, and none on exoplanets. Would believe in aliens if I dreamt about them? I did snip my sliver cord with physic scissors, but I’m not terribly bothered. Dave.
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THE DIVINE MASTERS Most Christians would agree, and correctly so, that Jesus Christ was a Divine Master, and a projection of God into the physical world, God Incarnate. But there are some very important related facts that Christians are COMPLETELY IGNORANT of, as are followers of most other world religions. First, Jesus Christ was NOT unique, John 3:16 NOTWITH- STANDING. There is ALWAYS at least one such Divine Master (God Incarnate) PHYSICALLY ALIVE in this world AT ALL TIMES, a continuous succession THROUGHOUT HISTORY, both before and after the life of Jesus. The followers of some of these Divine Masters founded the world’s major religions, usually PERVERTING the teachings of their Master in the process. Christians, for example, added THREATS of "ETERNAL DAMNATION" in Hell, and DELETED the teaching of REincarnation. Secondly, and more importantly, after a particular Divine Master physically dies and leaves this world, there is NOTHING that He can do for ANYbody except for the relatively few people that He INITIATED while He was still PHYSICALLY alive, [ ONLY 120 for Jesus Christ, according to Acts 1:15.]. THIS IS SIMPLY THE WAY GOD SET THINGS UP IN THE UNIVERSES. Therefore, all those Christians who worship Jesus, and pray to Jesus, and expect Jesus to return and save them from their sins, have allowed themselves to be DUPED by a religion that was mostly MANUFACTURED by the Romans. And emotional "feelings" are a TOTALLY DECEIVING indicator for religious validity. These things are similarly true for followers of most other major world religions, including Islam. Thirdly, the primary function of each Divine Master is to tune His Initiates into the "AUDIBLE LIFE STREAM" or "SOUND CURRENT", (referred to as "THE WORD" in John 1:1-5, and as "The River of Life" in Revelation 22:1), and to personally guide each of them thru the upper levels of Heaven while they are still connected to their living physical bodies by a "silver cord". TRUE Salvation, which COMPLETES a Soul’s cycles of REincarnation in the physical and psychic planes, is achieved only by reaching at least the "SOUL PLANE", which is five levels or Universes above the physical universe, and this canNOT be done without the help of a PHYSICALLY-Living Divine Master. One such Divine Master physically alive today is a Tibetan, Rebazar Tarzs, one of five LIVING Masters for the "Eckankar" organization, now headquartered in Minneapolis, (P.O. Box 27300, zip 55427; 1-800-568-3463; www.eckankar.org ). Another Divine Master is Maharaj Gurinder Singh Ji, now living in Punjab, India, and is associated with the Radha Soami "Sant Mat" organization. There are others. One of the classic books on this subject is the 458+ page book "THE PATH OF THE MASTERS", written in 1939 by Dr. Julian P. Johnson, a theologian and surgeon who spent the last years of his life in India studying under and closely observing the Sant Mat Master of that time, Maharaj Sawan Singh Ji. ( ONLY $3.00 PPD. from Science of the Soul Study Center, 4115 Gillespie St., Fayetteville, NC 28306 ) Several of the Eckankar books, including some authored by Sri Paul Twitchell, can be found in most public and university libraries and some book stores, or obtained thru inter-library loan. The two books "ECKANKAR–THE KEY TO SECRET WORLDS" and "THE TIGER’S FANG", both written by Sri Paul Twitchell, are ALSO CLASSICS. Many Christians are likely to confuse the Divine Masters with the "Anti-Christ", which is or was to be a temporary world dictator during the so-called "last days". But the Masters don’t ever rule, even when asked or expected to do so as Jesus was. People who continue following Christianity, Islam, or other orthodox religions with a physically-DEAD Master, will CONTINUE on their cycles of REincarnation, between the Psychic Planes and this MISERABLE physical world, until they finally accept Initiation from a PHYSICALLY-LIVING Divine Master. RE-INCARNATION The book "HERE AND HEREAFTER", by Ruth Montgomery, describes several kinds of evidence supporting REincarnation as a FACT OF LIFE, including HYPNOTIC REGRESSIONS to past lives [about 50% accurate; the subconscious mind sometimes makes things up, especially with a bad hypnotist], SPONTANEOUS RECALL (especially by young children, some of whom can identify their most recent previous relatives, homes, possessions, etc.), DREAM RECALL of past life experi- ences, DEJA VU (familiarity with a far off land while travel- ing there supposedly for the first time on vacation), the psychic readings of the late EDGAR CAYCE, and EVEN SUPPORTING STATEMENTS FROM THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE including Matthew 17:11- 13 KJV (John the Baptist was the RE-INCARNATION of Elias.) and John 9:1-2 KJV (How can a person POSSIBLY sin before he is born, unless he LIVED BEFORE ?!). [ Use the "KING JAMES VERSION". Some later versions are PER-VERSIONS ! ] Strong INTERESTS, innate TALENTS, strong PHOBIAS, etc., typically originate from a person’s PAST LIVES. For example, a strong fear of swimming in or traveling over water usually results from having DROWNED at the end of a PREVIOUS LIFE. And sometimes a person will take AN IMMEDIATE DISLIKE to another person being met for the first time in THIS life, because of a bad encounter with him or her during a PREVIOUS INCARNATION. The teaching of REincarnation also includes the LAW OF KARMA (Galatians 6:7, Revelation 13:10, KJV). People would behave much better toward each other if they knew that their actions in the present will surely be reaped by them in the future, or in a FUTURE INCARNATION ! PLANES OF EXISTENCE The physical universe is the LOWEST of at least a DOZEN major levels of existence. Above the Physical Plane is the Astral Plane, the Causal Plane, the Mental Plane, the Etheric Plane (often counted as the upper part of the Mental Plane), the Soul Plane, and several higher Spiritual Planes. The Soul Plane is the FIRST TRUE HEAVEN, (counting upward from the Physical). The planes between (but NOT including) the Physical and Soul Planes are called the Psychic Planes. It is likely that ESP, telepathy, astrological influences, radionic/psionic effects, biological transmutations [See the 1972 book with that title.], and other phenomena without an apparent physical origin, result from INTERACTIONS between the Psychic Planes and the Physical Plane. The major planes are also SUB-DIVIDED. For example, one of the 150 sub-planes of the Astral Plane is called "Hades", and the Christian Hell occupies a SMALL part of it, created there LESS THAN 2000 YEARS AGO by the EARLY CATHOLIC CHURCH by some kind of BLACK MAGIC or by simply teaching its existence in a THREATENING manner. The Christian "Heaven" is located elsewhere on the Astral Plane. Good Christians will go there for a short while and then REincarnate back to Earth. SOUND CURRENT vs. BLIND FAITH The Christian religion demands of its followers an extraordinary amount of BLIND FAITH backed up by little more than GOOD FEELING (which is TOTALLY DECEIVING). If a person is not HEARING INWARDLY some form of the "SOUND CURRENT" ("THE WORD", "THE BANI", "THE AUDIBLE LIFE STREAM"), then his cycles of REINCARNATION in this MISERABLE world WILL CONTINUE. The "SOUND CURRENT" manifests differently for different Initiates, and can sound like ocean waves on the sea shore, tinkling bells, running water, buzzing bees, single note of a flute, a rushing wind (as in Acts 2:2 KJV), deep humming sounds, higher pitched buzzing sounds, many violins, various heavenly music, or other similar sounds. In Eckankar, Members start hearing it near the end of their first year as a Member. This and other experiences (such as "SOUL TRAVEL") REPLACE blind faith. ADVANTAGES OF ECKANKAR Eckankar has several ADVANTAGES over Sant Mat, including the following: (1) Eckankar Initiates have the SPECIAL UNIQUE PRIVILEGE of being able to WORK OFF much of their negative karma during their DREAM
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