Christianity QA

Question:

    ~Also it is shown that children raised in a non-religious hopusehold have     ~a 450% greater incidence of growing up with this particular malady. My     ~children will be raised Christian. They’ll be fine.         This it a HOOT!  NOT borne out by ANYTHING I have ever read, not borne     out by my personal experience and observation.  This one is a figment     of someone’s hot little mind down at the church of the hot flash — IF     it could be demonstrated that anything of the sort were actually true     it would be front page news from coast to coast.     Agreed. Consider this: I’m doing a study on homosexuality. I try to create as great a cross-section of the society I’m studying and so include a ton of fundamentalist folks. Now, I ask them serious and pointed questions about their sexual habits, fantasies, and the like and I record the results. ..Hmmm….what’s wrong with this picture? Could it possibly be that I can’t trust a blessed thing (no pun intended) that said fundamentalist tells me–or am I so naive as to believe that this person values honesty and the sanctity of scientific research MORE than he/she fears ostracism by his/her cultural/religious group? ..And fundamentalist fail to see why I’m unconvinced by their propaganda… Geesh! —                                       "Send my mouth way down south                                        and kiss my ass good-bye!"                                                        –John Prine

Response:

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ~     ~Also it is shown that children raised in a non-religious hopusehold have ~     ~a 450% greater incidence of growing up with this particular malady. My ~     ~children will be raised Christian. They’ll be fine. ~     ~     This it a HOOT!  NOT borne out by ANYTHING I have ever read, not borne ~     out by my personal experience and observation.  This one is a figment ~     of someone’s hot little mind down at the church of the hot flash — IF ~     it could be demonstrated that anything of the sort were actually true ~     it would be front page news from coast to coast. ~     ~Agreed. Consider this: I’m doing a study on homosexuality. I try to create as ~great a cross-section of the society I’m studying and so include a ton of ~fundamentalist folks. Now, I ask them serious and pointed questions about their ~sexual habits, fantasies, and the like and I record the results. ~..Hmmm….what’s wrong with this picture? Could it possibly be that I can’t ~trust a blessed thing (no pun intended) that said fundamentalist tells me–or ~am I so naive as to believe that this person values honesty and the sanctity of ~scientific research MORE than he/she fears ostracism by his/her ~cultural/religious group? ~..And fundamentalist fail to see why I’m unconvinced by their propaganda… ~Geesh!

The tragic part of this is that between five and ten percent of their poor children will be homosexual whether or not they have permission from their parents — All the rest of us came from het families and I know of NONE who were exactly delighted — no grandchildren alone is a bitter dissapointment to most folks — at my age it is even a disappointment to me. These unhappy children will have to suffer hideously by reason of the delusions of their parents who will ofer them condemnationa nd scorn in lace of that unconditional love which EVERY child is entitled to at least hope for. ward ~– ~                                      "Send my mouth way down south ~                                       and kiss my ass good-bye!" ~                                                       –John Prine

"Teaching children that the feelings of their hearts will make them forever unclean,indecent, unfit for love or human society must surely rank as immoral, as child abuse. Here in Hawaii,the rainbow state of diversity, tolerance and aloha, we can do better."                      Uncle Ward

Response:

Wow! What’s that all about? Regards,         Hans Wienhold           http://www.hwcn.org/~ab212/Profile.html

Response:

writes: Wow! What’s that all about?

If you’re referring to the subject line (If Jesus were gay), Hans, there’s been a discussion (and using the term "discussion" is being exceedingly kind) regarding homosexuality here, between those who insist that the Christian Bible condemns it, and those who discount this assertion. The lifestyle of this character called Jesus, as described in Scripture, in many ways appears to paralell a gay male lifestyle. There is even a brief passage in Scripture that appears to suggest that Jesus may have been interrupted in a homoerotic encounter by the soldiers who came to arrest him in Gethsemane. The point was not to "prove" that Jesus was gay, but to suggest that there’s enough ambivalence in Scripture to cast grave doubt on any assertion that "the Bible condemns homosexuals" or that it condemns homosexuality.  And, thus far, nobody’s come up with a plausible explanation for that particular passage in the Bible – Mark 14:50-53 Bill Mayers

Response:

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – writes: Wow! What’s that all about? If you’re referring to the subject line (If Jesus were gay), Hans, there’s been a discussion (and using the term "discussion" is being exceedingly kind) regarding homosexuality here, between those who insist that the Christian Bible condemns it, and those who discount this assertion. The lifestyle of this character called Jesus, as described in Scripture, in many ways appears to paralell a gay male lifestyle. There is even a brief passage in Scripture that appears to suggest that Jesus may have been interrupted in a homoerotic encounter by the soldiers who came to arrest him in Gethsemane. The point was not to "prove" that Jesus was gay, but to suggest that there’s enough ambivalence in Scripture to cast grave doubt on any assertion that "the Bible condemns homosexuals" or that it condemns homosexuality.  And, thus far, nobody’s come up with a plausible explanation for that particular passage in the Bible – Mark 14:50-53 Bill Mayers

Further support:  Jewish communities of the time would have thought an unmarried adult strange indeed.  Parents made marriage contracts very early that bound women to men and required a get (divorce paper) to disolve.  Of course, the man had more freedom.  He could be polygamous. Martin Fox

Response:

Further support:  Jewish communities of the time would have thought an unmarried adult strange indeed.  Parents made marriage contracts very early that bound women to men and required a get (divorce paper) to disolve.  Of course, the man had more freedom.  He could be polygamous.

Maybe that’s one of the reasons why he’s not accepted as God’s son and a holy man in Jewish (and also islamic) faith, which still exists, whether he was or not. He merely is a kind of a prophet. (The islam speaks of Jesus as the prophet Isa, by the way).

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